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big tee

big tee

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Hey Loren the Case guy--I tried buying another Oliver with a Detroit yesterday on Auction Time. I set my limit how high I would go and stuck to it. Brought $6500-Came in second! I know how much you like Detroit's! I know you would have invited me to your town celebration this Summer and I could have followed you in the parade-1st gear-full throttle-Ha-Ha--just kidding---Tee
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I've always liked Detroits, and still do, Big Tee.

My Father was an engineer for GM Truck and Coach for 30 years before retiring in 1969. He knew more about Detroits than anyone that I've ever known.

Dean
 
That makes me want to go out and fire up my Oliver 1950 this afternoon so I can hear that sweet sounding Detroit..
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Hey 1206--Let me know if you get behind on the payments--I will take it off you hands!!!---Tee
 
1206, have you ever used that for heavy tillage? How is the actual fuel economy of a 1900 or 1950 with a Detroit if you're using it for true work?
 
Their specialty is turning diesel fuel into noise and smoke right?
When I was a kid, before the interstate was built, all the trucks had to run the state route 7, which is a two lane. The car carrier companies all ran detroits, and good luck if you got stuck behind one of them. I think the way they drove them was leave the throttle wide open, and just keep stirring the shifter. It seemed like the power band was about 200 rpm wide...
Pete
 
I had to look-21,200-not bad---The one I thought was a buy was the 1997 9600 with 2900 hours--10,200. Soon they will be under $10000-nobody wants the old combines like my son and I have. 8820 titian II--3800--4500. It used to be around here the jockeys South of the border got them but they don't even want them anymore---Tee






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In the early 70?s I worked in a GMC heavy truck garage. A logger friend of mine had a skidder with a Detroit In it. He was bragging it up and I jokingly told him ?I wouldn?t put one of those oil puking SOB?s in a go kart. He was a real big guy and he reached out with one hand, grabbed the front of my coat, and picked me off my feet . I was really glad that we were both joking!
 
I had a couple of Timberjack skidders with 53 series Detroits in the 70's. There was not much else available then except Deere and there engine in that era were real poor. I think the newer ones are better. Had a larger Deere skidder 648 in 86. Did not care for that engine either.

DWF
 
Heres a 1950 that we used for heavy tillage 45-50 years ago..We pulled 6x16's with it and it would use about 6 gallons per hour..It had one size bigger injectors and turned 117 horsepower..It only had a 28 gallon fuel tank so had to fuel up every 4 hours..The picture is me winning the 15,000 class at Springfield,MO in 1970..
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I have bad news....I just finished paying it off last week.....(grin) I bought that tractor at St Charles,MO 275 miles away on Labor Day weekend in 2000..There were several 1950's in my area but none could be bought...Someone on here told me about that farm sale at St Charles ..I left home at 5 AM and got up there at 9:45 AM...Bought the tractor at 10:15 AM and was on the way home by a little after 10:30...Paid for it and made arrangements to have it hauled by the seller as he was getting in to trucking..He and his brother had lost most of their farm land to development and a 4 lane hiway..Got home and cut 1000 bushels of soybeans that afternoon..
 
Years ago the mechanic at our pipeline shop put a Detroit in our Ford Crane Truck. It was a great stationary crane on the job but driving that thing was unreal. You could hear it coming seemed like for miles. You could take off from a red light and be in 4th gear before you got to the other side of the intersection Still not running 20 MPH. That Detroit just screaming and going nowhere fast LOL. Its a sound thats so distinct from any other engine.
 
Big Tee those engines are good for converting fuel to noise and leaving their mark everywhere they sit. Had one in a long hood gmc. Was wore out from the noisy thing after a 12 hour day.BTW it was a 318. This was 40 years ago. RB
 
First place we bought in '72 was in a valley surrounded by timber, and lots of logging going on. All the gypo loggers had skidders with Detroits in them, and they all drove them like they stole 'em. You could hear them for miles- always wide open. Most of the Detroit powered units are long gone, but I still hear one once in awhile, and it brings back memories of those long-ago days- kind of like the sound when dad started up the vacuum pump for the milking parlor.
 
TRADITIONAL FARMER Some time back, you mentioned having a factory wide front for an Allis Chalmers C. Might that still be the case?
 

For all those who whine and wail about Detroit Two Stokes .
Thier ancestors to this day power ships and locomotives .
Unlike the four stroke that falls on it s face and looses power as it approaches red line. The four strokes torque is falling and is forcing an upshift . The torque on a graph is hump shaped . HP also rapidly falls at or near red line .
The two stroke is always at it s peak torque from just above idle to past redline .
Does just fine in pumps, generators , bull dozers, earth movers , ships , locomotives etc . Nobody complains no torque in those applications .
 
Shrimp boats in Lafitte, LA. use them. Having been born and raised on the Texas coast, shrimp boats were displacement hulls (hull remains in the water
like a sail boat) making 10ish knots (nautical MPH). In Lafitte, it's a good ways to the Gulf of Mexico and there are a lot of shallows lurking off the main
channels. So the shrimp boats have a planing hull, coming up out of the water, on top, doubling their speed and depending on the power and hull
design/weight, faster than that...like 20 or so knots. Friend took me out on one and yepper, it was a DD 671 two stroker.
 
OK, what was wrong with Oliver engines that they had to buy Detroit's to sell a running tractor? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rick
 
Neighbor had a cabover tractor trailer with a Detroit 2cycle. When he would start it up in the morning and idle it for an hour, it would practically kill a person from all the half burned fuel. Then, even after idling for an hour, it would be like fogging for mosquitoes for five miles before it would stop smoking!
 
(quoted from post at 19:12:29 04/28/19) . Idling the engine was making the problem worse instead of better . Why on earth would your neighbour do such a thing?
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Don't know. Could be all their prior Detroit experience was 0 and they treated it like any other engine. Another possibility could be the only knowledge they had about Detroit's was from the military. Army used a lot of them in GamaGoats, back in the late 60's and early 70's M113's, M109 and 110 self propelled artillery guns. The Army always insisted on idling engines for 5 minutes minimum when cold and often later than that. Not justifying it. Just saying.

Rick
 
Detroit Had to put cardboard over the headlights so it couldn't see the hill if you wanted to get over it. The 60 series was not much better. Both will fall on their face at the sight of a hill. I remember coming through The tunnels on I-77 in VA /WV had to run flat on the floor to make the next hill without having to drop 4 gears. 60 series Deriot. Drove those old Double breasted Yamaha's out west on harvest. Always checking to see if the guy was back there so we didn't lose him out in MT and ID, and WY. CO we just hoped he knew where he was going or told him where we were stopping so he could catch up.
 
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