I bought a dead in the field 1965 Ford 4000 4 cyl. diesel. NO BATTERY. Can anyone tell me what voltage I need to get this started? 6v or 12v? Positive ground. I tried to jump it with 12v and it hinted that it was going to roll over then stopped, now nothing. Also it has SELECT-O-SPEED and I'm not sure it is in neutral. I hear the previous owner (3yrs ago) backed it into the field and then would not go forward so he left it. He has passed away. Any help would be appreciated it's 1 hour drive away. JIM
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Steve@Advance
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It will be 12v.
It needs a fully charged battery. The spec calls for a minimum 128 amp hour battery.
Trying to jump with out a battery, or a dead battery, is rarely successful, especially on a diesel.
Be sure to do some basic checks before starting it, like water in the oil, coolant, etc.
Also have a plan for if it does start in case of a runaway.
It needs a fully charged battery. The spec calls for a minimum 128 amp hour battery.
Trying to jump with out a battery, or a dead battery, is rarely successful, especially on a diesel.
Be sure to do some basic checks before starting it, like water in the oil, coolant, etc.
Also have a plan for if it does start in case of a runaway.
Fordfarmer
Well-known Member
All Ford diesels, and all Ford tractors
from 1965 on, are 12V, negative ground.
The Select-O-Speed goes into park
whenever the engine isn't running,
regardless of what gear the shift lever
is in. If you need to move it when it
isn't running, unlock the traction
coupling. On '65-up models, it's on the
right side, near your heel as you sit on
the tractor.
from 1965 on, are 12V, negative ground.
The Select-O-Speed goes into park
whenever the engine isn't running,
regardless of what gear the shift lever
is in. If you need to move it when it
isn't running, unlock the traction
coupling. On '65-up models, it's on the
right side, near your heel as you sit on
the tractor.
Andy Martin
Well-known Member
The starter doesn't care if it's negative ground or positive ground. Generally you have to have a battery in the tractor and good connections before you try to jump start.
Greg NE
Member
- Location
- Duncan, Nebraska
If it's a 4 cylinder then it must be a 64 or older tractor and those Select O
Speeds have the disconnect on the left inspection cover, by where your left heel
would be if sitting on the tractor. It is a small strap that is held on by one of
the bolts. It must be disconnected to move that tractor at all without the engine
running as previously mentioned.
Speeds have the disconnect on the left inspection cover, by where your left heel
would be if sitting on the tractor. It is a small strap that is held on by one of
the bolts. It must be disconnected to move that tractor at all without the engine
running as previously mentioned.
Janicholson
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The battery must be in the tractor. Cables (even good ones) loose about 1/2 of the applied amps. Ji
Dieseltech
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- Akron, Indiana
Better plan on using a trailer with a winch, setting that long I doubt the injection pump will work with stale fuel. I repair lots of pumps anymore that have stuck valves and plungers that have only set six months to a year. I just trailered home a 6000 diesel, no fuel to injectors and it's sat two years.
john in la
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While most will disagree you can have a 4 cylinder Ford built in 1965.
Anything above serial number 64440 is a 1965.
Production of the 4 cylinder tractor ended in Sept 1965 just above number 72000.
And yes I have the paper work to prove this fact if anyone wants to dispute it.
But with that said you would be best calling it a 1964 model when talking to others as 1965 was the change over year from the 4 cylinder to the 3 cylinder tractors and most consider 1965 a 3 cylinder year.
Get one of these guys to tell you how to disconnect a 1964 SOS so it will free wheel.
Put it on a trailer and get it home.
Be prepared to go threw the fuel pump and maybe injectors from sitting so long.
Anything above serial number 64440 is a 1965.
Production of the 4 cylinder tractor ended in Sept 1965 just above number 72000.
And yes I have the paper work to prove this fact if anyone wants to dispute it.
But with that said you would be best calling it a 1964 model when talking to others as 1965 was the change over year from the 4 cylinder to the 3 cylinder tractors and most consider 1965 a 3 cylinder year.
Get one of these guys to tell you how to disconnect a 1964 SOS so it will free wheel.
Put it on a trailer and get it home.
Be prepared to go threw the fuel pump and maybe injectors from sitting so long.
Dieseltech
Well-known Member
- Location
- Akron, Indiana
Better plan on using a trailer with a winch, setting that long I doubt the injection pump will work with stale fuel. I repair lots of pumps anymore that have stuck valves and plungers that have only set six months to a year. I just trailered home a 6000 diesel, no fuel to injectors and it's sat two years.
john in la
Well-known Member
Showcrop
So you are saying they could not build 4 cylinder and 3 cylinder tractors at the same time?
I guess you also believe Ford can not build Mustangs and Pickups at the same time also.
I will add a picture of 4 cylinder serial numbers by month.
You will see the last entry was made on Sept 1965.
This is a orginal Ford document not some aftermarket production.
So you are saying they could not build 4 cylinder and 3 cylinder tractors at the same time?
I guess you also believe Ford can not build Mustangs and Pickups at the same time also.
I will add a picture of 4 cylinder serial numbers by month.
You will see the last entry was made on Sept 1965.
This is a orginal Ford document not some aftermarket production.
showcrop
Well-known Member
John, of course we all know that they built 5000s and 7000s four cylinders at the same time as they were building the 2000, 3000, and 4000 three cylinders. I don't know what that paper is. I don't see any Ford logo on it, and I don' see any reference to number of cylinders. I can see plainly where they started the numbers over again for the start of August 1962 where they started making the three cylinders, just like when they started over in 1957 with the XX1s. I checked my Ford serial number record, which gives the beginning numbers for the years for all of the 601s, 701s, 801s, 901s, which as we all know were lumped together. It gives the 541s having separate numbers but like all the others they end in 1962.
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