SVcummins

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John Deere D walking the dog . I bet that thing is so loud that guys ears are still ringing
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Safety features were built into the operators then. Nowdays most of those features have been replaced by gizmos built into the tractor.
 
Look at the gigantic fenders. That?s a huge safety device for that era. Unfortunately most safety devices are an after thought; something has to happen before the new safety device is developed.
 
I always liked the sound of those old JD's. When I was younger I tried buying a couple at auctions. Pockets never seemed to be deep enough though. Now I need something bigger and newer.
 
Your right, never even loaded it up enough to start hitting hard. I have a '49 with the same setup, dual exhaust, with wts. My pipes are longer by about 2', you can hear it for miles when it is under a load. The old D's are fun to play with, not so much when you spend 12 hr. days with a short lunch break.
 
I've never seen one of those any place but a threshing show. There was all kinds of John Deere's around the area in the 50s and 60s including a couple of Rs. Where's the D fit in?
 
D's were built from 1924 to 1953 with some upgrades over the years. When JD stopped making them, a lot of farmers were upset and they built the last ones in the street in front of the plant so they could fill those orders.
They were called Streeters and are much sought after as collector tractors.
The R replaced the D.
Richard in NW SC
 
looking at the tall grass---any benefit from giving the field a good trim before hitting it with the plow? just a farming question from a non-farmer.
 
That is a correct statement! It took OSHA thinking to let stupid operators to last longer. At least some last longer. Safety laws written to remove the personal safety responsibility. If you stick your hand into husking rolls on a corn picker it can't be your problem they should have manufactured the picker so you couldn't get your hand in it. I now need paid a living wage for the rest of my life because of the dumb corn pickers manufacturer for not keeping me from sticking my hand in it.
 
He's only plowing about 3 inches deep. Dad bought an R to be "My Tractor" just before Christmas of 1963, with the matching 4-14 Deere plow. It struggled disking with our 14 ft Krause disk, but when Dad and I took the R and Super M-TA out to plow 40 acres of old alfalfa sod, he was pretty disappointed, creeped along in 2nd gear, had to drop into 1st on a couple hills. After we got that 40 acres plowed I pulled an IH #8 3-14 the rest of the spring, until after Dad sold the R, we had 16 acres of old corn ground left to plow and we hooked the SM-TA to the 4-14 Deere plow. It actually pulled that plow faster than the R could, about 3.8 mph vs R at 3.3.

The hours I sat on that R listening to it hammer away has a LOT to do with why my ears ring 24-7-365.
 
Jon yes he is . That must be some really light soil . 3x14 works the guts out of a 70 horsepower in our soil a late model D Is only 38 drawbar horsepower .
 
Not bad for plowing sod. With the upgrades to the engine its probably putting out more horsepower then an R or a WD-9.
 
I am amazed it is pulling 4 bottoms. Must be pretty sandy soil and shallow roots. Where I grew up in south west Wisconsin it would work a 75hp tractor breaking old sod with a 4 bottom plow.
 
Grew up on on a '48. That danged catapult seat. Front wheels drops in a hole and it just launches you.
 
(quoted from post at 10:32:38 03/01/19) looking at the tall grass---any benefit from giving the field a good trim before hitting it with the plow? just a farming question from a non-farmer.

Turning the grass under is good for the soil. You notice he's covering it pretty well.

If you mow it you have to bale it or burn it. Loose stuff on top of the ground will clog the plow.
 
Duane the 4020 dynoed 112 horsepower at 540 rpm pto speed the last time I had the pump worked on I had em give it a little more and I?ve brought it right to her knees pulling 3x14 in old sod ground the model D would be a 2x14 plow tractor in the best conditions here and most of the ground it would be pulling one 14
 
My experience with this is you would have to take that standing grass and harvest a hay crop 1st or cut it with a rotary mower numerous times working the cut depth from high to low, shred it, wait until the rain and weather starts to break it down, cut it and shred again before plowing if need be. At some point it will be broke down enough to not be so difficult to plow, and the rains will leach the nitrogen from the trash right into the soil. I've cut and plowed before with mixed results, not worth dealing with the plow plugging up. Sometimes it worked, but keeping that plow at the right depth makes a huge difference. I am not sure if trash boards would help with so much tall grass not connected with roots anymore. If the plow goes too deep, the sod won't roll over and the trash just seems to then plug up the plow real easy. I've seen some do this in tall grass with better results, but most would take the hay crop 1st.

I think it's far better to either plow it sooner when the grasses are much less mature, and in this case, make some changes to get better coverage, there is a lot of green showing that will likely come right back. Who knows what he has planned, the soil conditions etc. It's definitely good to turn that lush green into the soil, my preference being when it's still young and not stalky. I've done that in my garden, sure seems to give it a nice natural dose of nitrogen.
 
(quoted from post at 21:27:27 03/01/19)
(quoted from post at 10:32:38 03/01/19) looking at the tall grass---any benefit from giving the field a good trim before hitting it with the plow? just a farming question from a non-farmer.

Turning the grass under is good for the soil. You notice he's covering it pretty well.

If you mow it you have to bale it or burn it. Loose stuff on top of the ground will clog the plow.

Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.
 
Billy in New York--

Thanks, this discussion reminds me of the few times I've turned over some garden soil by hand. This stuff I reclaimed from the lawn and that had tall grass still growing seemed to be especially difficult to deal with. The long grass did provide handy carrying handles for the clumps of dirt though.
 

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