Feedtruck on steroids!

This was posted on an Oklahoma gun forum I visit. Friend of the guy that built it posted the photo. Thought you guys would like to see it.

Itll never be overloaded !!!

Now that?s the way to carry feed

With Air Force roots, we did not use those vehicles except in training. Always called them a deuce and a half. Some were multi-fuel, some were not. What is a multi fuel truck and what fuels could they use?? And why were they called a deuce and a half. I'm sure they were called a M-1?? truck. Maybe oldtanker or some other Army type can answer my questions. gobble

'deuce and a half' refers to 2 and a half ton load capacity

milti-fuel=any fuel except JP-4(jet fuel) have seen them run @ -10,0n straight gaseoline, no problem

(quoted from post at 17:45:49 02/05/19) Itll never be overloaded !!!

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Been on my bucket list for awhile. Lately I been thinking I need to cut back.

Neighbor had an old military truck similar to that. It was so short you couldn't put much of a box/load on it. Took a field to turn it around. The worst part was, it was so gutless it wouldn't get out of its own way.

That might actually be the 5 ton variant

Looks like a 800 series 5 Ton. Probably a dump or tractor because of the shorter wheelbase than cargo. Should have a NH250 Cummins engine.

The multi-fuel had a special bowl on the piston. In a pinch it could run on lighter fuel like gasoline but it?s very hard on the injection pump. Much better to run diesel like fuels with lubricity.

Engines had low power rating, like 165 hp or something like that. They turbo?d them to reduce the smoke at one point but not much change in hp. Hercules White and Continental I think built them.

What over kill just to haul a few round bales of hay. Lot of maintenance for that little work. If he had a trailer so he could load a weeks hay might be more practical.

Kinda like buying a $20,000 UTV to haul two square bales out to the horses once a day. LOL

There are quite a few of them running around the
country anymore. Way cheaper then a new pickup
and balebed and will go through more snow.
Just remember that not everyone only has 40 cows
that have never been out of the barn. Some
ranchers run a thousand head of cows and I will
guarantee you better make your time count.

Try dragging that trailer through a stock field to feed cows.

Needs a lo-boy with an M-60 on the back

You see them come up for sale on Purple Wave once in the while. A lot of rural fire departments used them so they are actually in pretty good shape when you find them. They seem to go kind of high but as mentioned below you could buy one of them or two Suzuki Mules.

(quoted from post at 08:03:43 02/06/19) What over kill just to haul a few round bales of hay. Lot of maintenance for that little work. If he had a trailer so he could load a weeks hay might be more practical.

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Lot of truck for little work. They seem to have their place though and not sure if military life was it.
We had 1968 deuce and a half for use on pipeline restoration. It came with 22' personnel carrier body meaning it had folding wooden seats on each side the body side wear 1' high +/- that folded down with wooden racks that were about 50" tall. Also had hoops and tarp to cover. Continental inline 6 cylinder not multi fuel and 4 speed with the granny and I mean granny. Was able to get steel roof for the cab and super singles for tires. IIRC the rear tires on the tandem were so close together you could barely put your hand between them. We had it road legal so it could get to a job on it's own.
We removed the hoops, tarp and seats left the racks and could stack 180 square bales on the body. Built a slide off frame for a square bale shredder/blower and mounted it 1/2 way hanging off the back. Each load would mulch about 1,200 ft of 100" wide right of way. With the gearing so low very little use for braking on the ROW and the driver could set the hand throttle and get off the seat and stand on the running board to watch the operation. If the terrain was to steep we could arrange with the pipeline contractor to have a D-6, D-8 or equivalent nearby to cable us in and out. It would track surprisingly well in softer ground with wide super singles and we always had a skid steer nearby to dress any ruts we made. 3 guys on the back had to be tethered to avoid being bounced out.
Yea you can get them stuck but the problems mostly occurred when the driver would try to power out and start spinning. The u-joints and driveshafts seem to be the weakest link. Quite small considering the loads.
A couple companies would not use us because we used such old equipment. We also used JD 430 with 6 way blade, JD 730 diesel and 68 4020 and later a JD2950. Most of them got over it as we were making as production as well as the competitors. The comparable machine was a Marooka fulltrack machine that couldn't hold the capacity of our truck. The Marooka's couldn't climb a whole lot steeper terrain either.
At the time 2010 we had invested in the truck a little over 5k. Plus the blowershredder 24K. Marookas used at 80k just beat to death, plus the blower.
When that truck wasn't on the ROW it was pretty much worthless. It was tough to maintain it for just seasonal use. We had no other practical uses for it.
Later got an 88 5 ton M-1 w/Cummins that was used much the same way. No one cared for the automatic transmission as much. It was geared slightly higher. But they were real work horses on a ROW.

At only $6500

https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190213/item/DB8911/1971-Jeep-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Missouri


Hummer with a flatbed
https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190219/item/DE5979/1981-Am_General-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Missouri

1985 Am General M923 flatbed truck
Automatic transmission
Six wheel drive
Super singles
https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190227/item/DG3335/1985-Am_General-M923-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Oklahoma


1984 Am General M923 flatbed truck
11,983 miles on odometer
Automatic transmission
Six wheel drive

https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190227/item/DG3334/1984-Am_General-M923-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Oklahoma

(quoted from post at 12:43:13 02/06/19) At only $6500

https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190213/item/DB8911/1971-Jeep-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Missouri


Hummer with a flatbed
https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190219/item/DE5979/1981-Am_General-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Missouri

1985 Am General M923 flatbed truck
Automatic transmission
Six wheel drive
Super singles
https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190227/item/DG3335/1985-Am_General-M923-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Oklahoma


1984 Am General M923 flatbed truck
11,983 miles on odometer
Automatic transmission
Six wheel drive

https://www.purplewave.com/auction/190227/item/DG3334/1984-Am_General-M923-Trucks-Flat_Bed_Truck-Oklahoma

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"Later got an 88 5 ton M-1 w/Cummins", Should have said; M-923 AM General as pictured in the one link that dhermesc posted.
Almost identical to the pictures, except we had the canvas roof. I haven't seen that truck in about 3 yrs forgot the actual model. Those flip down sides were really handy.

(quoted from post at 17:41:12 02/05/19) This was posted on an Oklahoma gun forum I visit. Friend of the guy that built it posted the photo. Thought you guys would like to see it.

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My dad used to drive a multifuel 5 ton in Vietnam. He said they way it works is primarily it’s a Diesel engine. Diesels can run on kerosene JP5 and JP8. He said that if all you had were gasoline you’d have to mix some oil with the gas and it would also run on that.

So where do you get parts? I know the old WWII models that showed up around here in the 60's /70's were a parts nightmare since a lot of the parts were pretty propitiatory to the military spec. The guys up west of Ithaca MI had a bunch of them had to buy them for parts. I'm guessing since there looked to be junker row out back.

The parts are out there but you have to find the right connections. There are guys who have bought out old warehouses full of military parts. I restore WW2 military vehicles for a collector friend and if the parts are still available he will find them or he will buy another vehicle like it for parts. Yesterday afternoon I was on the phone with a parts supplier he recommended. I wouldn't have known about this supplier without help from my collector friend.

A local farmer got hold of a fairly modern Deuce that has a long wheelbase and a long bed, maybe 24'. I've never seen another one like it. The bed is a flatbed with low sideboards added. It probably takes an acre to turn it around but will go where other trucks won't. He uses it occasionally in his excavating business.

(quoted from post at 13:43:07 02/06/19) So where do you get parts? I know the old WWII models that showed up around here in the 60's /70's were a parts nightmare since a lot of the parts were pretty propitiatory to the military spec. The guys up west of Ithaca MI had a bunch of them had to buy them for parts. I'm guessing since there looked to be junker row out back.

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I have a surplus dealer within 20 minutes from me. He has several parts vehicles as well as newly acquired surplus trucks, equipment, generators, winches, cranes. He also has NOS on his shelves and suppliers to get new replacements for parts. I've been to his yard to see as many as 70-80 surplus vehicles at one time. His website doesn't do him justice as there is a lot more there than the website shows. I believe he is in a network of surplusers that swap, buy and sell. He travels a lot to military auctions and may bring home 25 trucks at a time. Has several connex boxes lined up full of parts and pieces. Nice fellow and good family pleasure doing business with him.

http://kublossurplus.com/

I almost bought a 35' round portable pond from him to be used as a collection pond for contanimated run off of a pipe line bore, they decided to use vac trucks pulling from a 30 yrd. dumpster.
IIRC he wanted 500 bucks for it. New in original crating with detailed instructions for installation.

Grandpa thanks for the link to the surplus site. It appears to be more modern than the stuff I mess with but you never know. There is a surplus I like to visit every time I'm in Idaho Falls. It's called Armysurpluswarehouse.com on the net. I always say it's the biggest collection of brand new unusable junk i have ever seen but I can spend a couple of hours there easy.