Need ideas - transporting 2pt hitch implement with pickup

rockyridgefarm · Jan 30, 2019

Hey all,

I'm going to a sale on saturday to hopefully buy an implement that is pull type, but hitches to the lower arms of the tractor. It's 2.5 hour drive with a pickup, and I don't know if I'll even buy it, but I'm working on solution for pulling it home. I floated the idea of also buying a tractor to pull it home with, but My lil' lady nixed that one...

I was thinking about taking off the arms and pinning it, but then I'd have a double swivel.

I was also thinking about getting a caddy, but I don't own one, dont want to borrow one, and am not inclined to buy one in case I don't buy the implement.

Am I missing an obvious solution?

SVcummins · Jan 30, 2019

Maybe with a flat bed you could rig it on there with
some chains and binders ? I think John Deere seller
has done it before he might have some ideas

504 · Jan 30, 2019

Most of the trailer sales around here rent trailers, you will need look for dealers that deal with
farmers. Fencing,gates posts etc.

rockyridgefarm · Jan 30, 2019

I have a trailer. The implement is 15 feet wide. Putting it on sideways requires removal of drawbar and rear tires.

I was also thinking about welding up a simple bar out of square tubing that would go in the receiver on the back of my pickup. I'd just have to make it the same height as a fully raised hitch and use a jack to get the drawbar up there. The more I think of it, the more I like this idea. Just gotta figure out the tongue weight...

rockyridgefarm · Jan 30, 2019

(quoted from post at 21:51:16 01/30/19)
I have a trailer. The implement is 15 feet wide. Putting it on sideways requires removal of drawbar and rear tires.

I was also thinking about welding up a simple bar out of square tubing that would go in the receiver on the back of my pickup. I'd just have to make it the same height as a fully raised hitch and use a jack to get the drawbar up there. The more I think of it, the more I like this idea. Just gotta figure out the tongue weight...

Yikes, tongue weight of 4800 lbs! Hitch bracket is out. Maybe I can make a puller out of the back half of a running gear... Hmm.

JD Seller · Jan 30, 2019

Just take a flat bed truck. Set the hitch up on the back of the flatbed. I chain the hitch down to the rear hitch and then chain it forward to the gooseneck ball. The forward chains work best if hooked to the two point hitch pins. They will be in a VEE shape. A good ton truck will easily handle a 4800 lbs. hitch load.

I would never pull one with a cart/caddy type hitch. You do not have any weight on the towing truck. By setting the hitch on the truck you have the weight on the truck to easily control/stop the implement.

DeltaRed · Jan 30, 2019

Haul it. Don't even think of towing it.Even if it hangs off the edge of the trailer.Flag it well and drive.

Rex Simpkins · Jan 31, 2019

What did you find that is 2pt hitch and pull behind and 15 feet wide??? a hay rake???

rockyridgefarm · Jan 31, 2019

(quoted from post at 02:57:40 01/31/19) What did you find that is 2pt hitch and pull behind and 15 feet wide??? a hay rake???

This-

BarnyardEngineering · Jan 31, 2019

Does it even have transport wheels? Those drills tended to roll on the packer wheels if I'm not mistaken.

rockyridgefarm · Jan 31, 2019

(quoted from post at 05:15:44 01/31/19) Does it even have transport wheels? Those drills tended to roll on the packer wheels if I'm not mistaken.

It's a John Deere 750. They all roll on two tires in the back. The tongue weight is so high because the wheels are ALL they way to the back. Many have crazy wheels and a tongue on the front, but they also made them this way and with straight drawbar. The straight drawbar musta required a 300 hp tractor to get a drawbar that wouldn't snap with all that tongue weight empty. I'd imagine a few ended up on the ground with the tractor still going forward.

rockyridgefarm · Jan 31, 2019

(quoted from post at 05:23:33 01/31/19)

(quoted from post at 05:15:44 01/31/19) Does it even have transport wheels? Those drills tended to roll on the packer wheels if I'm not mistaken.

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It's a John Deere 750. They all roll on two tires in the back. The tongue weight is so high because the wheels are ALL they way to the back. Many have crazy wheels and a tongue on the front, but they also made them this way and with straight drawbar. The straight drawbar musta required a 300 hp tractor to get a drawbar that wouldn't snap with all that tongue weight empty. I'd imagine a few ended up on the ground with the tractor still going forward.

Here's another one with the crazy wheels.

rockyridgefarm · Jan 31, 2019

(quoted from post at 05:15:44 01/31/19) Does it even have transport wheels? Those drills tended to roll on the packer wheels if I'm not mistaken.

And here's one with a straight hitch. With a 4800 lb tongue weight, I don't think anyone'll be hitching it to a 4020...

casecollectorsc · Jan 31, 2019

A few years back I bought a 20' Great Plains no-till drill with two point hitch. Had the dealer lift the front of the hitch high enough to
back the 3/4 Dodge Cummins under the hitch. Chained it to the fifth wheel ball and headed 35 miles home...no problem.

showcrop · Jan 31, 2019

I had a semi-mount mower and you could get a receiver bracket to go with it for truck towing. Is your truck within range of getting air bags added and being capable of towing?

fusion · Jan 31, 2019

Every time I tried to cut corners on something like that , I get myself in trouble
Pay someone with the right rig to pick it up and delivery it for you

ss55 · Jan 31, 2019

Can you talk to the seller or maybe a JD dealer to find out how they transported the machine or if they can deliver it? If the hitch can be removed after loading, will it fit length wise on a trailer? The 4,800 tongue weight might be loaded with seed and chemicals, but the empty machine might still weigh too much to tow behind a pickup.

If you already have a tractor that can pull it, 125 to 150 miles one way would be a two day round trip as it would be best to tow during daylight hours and only on back roads.

rockyridgefarm · Jan 31, 2019

Talked with a friend of mine at the dealership in Bloomington, and he said they used a dolly like I mentioned in my first post. Also, if you look at a fair number of dealers flat bed straight trucks, the have a two point hitch on back to pull these, and mocos, and corn planters, etc.

An international 4900 would be a lot more capable of pulling it than my ford 3/4 ton

timcasbolt · Jan 31, 2019

(quoted from post at 13:45:29 01/31/19) Every time I tried to cut corners on something like that , I get myself in trouble
Pay someone with the right rig to pick it up and delivery it for you

This is the only correct answer in this thread.

Tom OConnor · Jan 31, 2019

When I retired from farming I sold a twenty foot drill like this to a gentleman that lived about a hundred miles from me and I delivered it to him. I found that the easiest and safest way to haul one of those drills is to raise it up with two
loader tractors ( you will need healthy loader tractors as those drills are heavy ) and back a trailer underneath the drill so that the drill is on the trailer endwise and let the tires set over the curbside of the trailerand the drill will rest on the
openers. The hitch can then be taken off at the frame and strapped to the front end of the trailer.

Rex Simpkins · Jan 31, 2019

Sorry not the 2pt hitch i was thinking of IHC

caterpillar guy · Feb 1, 2019

I hauled one similar to that on my trailer like this. This will give you an idea of how wide it would be on there length wise.

caterpillar guy · Feb 1, 2019

Forgot to say I think it was about 11 or 12 feet wide like that. Hauled that from MO or AR to MN up north of the cities like that. Dropped the tractor at Northfield first, then the drill. Tractor was in AR.

rockyridgefarm · Feb 1, 2019

(quoted from post at 09:05:10 02/01/19) Forgot to say I think it was about 11 or 12 feet wide like that. Hauled that from MO or AR to MN up north of the cities like that. Dropped the tractor at Northfield first, then the drill. Tractor was in AR.

Thanks for the pictures. Seems I wouldn't lose much width by putting it on sideways. Maybe I'll see how wide the rear tires are and put it on backward.

I still think a dolly with the weight shifted slightly in front of the axle might be the best way to pull it. Gotta see if I get to buy it tomorrow first...

Bkpigs · Feb 1, 2019

(quoted from post at 17:05:10 02/01/19) Forgot to say I think it was about 11 or 12 feet wide like that. Hauled that from MO or AR to MN up north of the cities like that. Dropped the tractor at Northfield first, then the drill. Tractor was in AR.

How in Haitis did you get the tractor off before the drill? Did you unload the drill and then the tractor and reload the drill?

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