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youngfellow

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I'm a young guy (17) struggling to enjoy this hobby. I know its not a free, not cost effective, and is much like hunting or fishing as a hobby: it costs to enjoy.

That being said, I'm really getting disgusted with the attitude of some of the older guys. Its almost like they WANT to discourage younger people.

There have been so many times that people in this hobby acknowledge the fact that its slowing due to age of many of the people getting up there. Prices on Deere and IH letter series tractors are falling.

That being said, when a youngster like myself tries to get involved with the hobby, from many I get the old-guy-gold-chainer attitude of you better pay up since its a hobby. I never expected it to be free, or something even cost effective. But the attitude of "you better pay up and pay your dues if you want to be in the hobby", really, really ruffles my feathers. Its not the price of the parts, but rather that attitude that will deter many young people to get in the hobby. Yes, there have been some very kind that have offered assistance, but I also got several guys messaging me wanting to cash in on my misfortune with my JD B project saying they would "haul it off for free". These are some of the same guys that say you gotta pony up and spend a bunch of money to be in the hobby.

Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
 
Those kinds are worth less than a warm bucket of spit, DO NOT let them discourage you. Old tractors are old tractors, if you like the hobby of working on them, using them for your needs and the overall practice of fixing-repairing, what have you, don't let anyone stop you.

I remember old codgers looking at us kids like we knew nothing, hate to say it, don't think I turned out so bad either, things are paid for, land, house, most of my equipment. I think the smartest kids, the ones who achieved early, had good parents that taught them well, did not hand them anything, but took a strong interest in guiding them along the way. Many of my generation, parents were just about resentful of their kids, their jobs took up most of their time and you had to figure it out on your own, it's how I grew up, kids were to be seen, not heard, and all that crap. Looking back, all those negative nellies had nothing on me, some were drunks, worthless jerks with big mouths towards young go getters. I have one my age, he's jealous of a nephew who has achieved success, these types you just cannot listen to.
 
Well, there is validity in your comments if it relates to "how" the messages are passed to you. But how could advice about being careful
that you don't spend your hard-earned money (assuming it is your own hard-earned money) on something that a 17-year-old chap should think
twice about spending be bad advice? On the other hand, if mom and dad are always going to be there for you financially, or at least for the
foreseeable future, then spend away as you wish. When I was your age I was bound and determined to buy myself a car. My dad wouldn't allow
it and the reason was financial. Looking back, he was 100% correct.
 
I guess I'm an old guy (67),,and I welcome young people to the hobby....and to be able to buy a starter tractor cheap is all the better,, good luck with what ever your working on...
 
I usually interpret the comments like"I'll haul it off for free" as more joking then anything. They are saying they would love to have what you got, a compliment really. I have always liked the old tractors, guess because my dad was a JD mechanic for many years. Projects don't always go well, but usually they can be salvaged another day. I don't know how many times over the years I have said, I'll never do that project again, but then I do. I don't think guys are trying to discourage you part of the fun is in finding the part you thought didn't exist, or in finding a "work around". Nothing quite compares to getting that old tractor running again that everyone said never would. There is a wealth of kknowledge here, but like harvesting a field you have to skim off the good stuff and discard the rest
 
I hear you. More then once at auctions I?ve seen a really old
guy who can?t walk, has to ride scooter, and/or carries oxygen
run up some young kid. More often then not the old guy
already has 20 tractors. I was fortunate one time when I was
20 and had no money to be able to acquire a Massey 55.
There was a guy there that had a huge junkyard with some
good stuff that the show ?Pickers? could spend a month in.
Before the bidding he casual asked me what my intentions
were. I told him, and he said he would only bid if I stopped.
He kept his word and I got the Massey for $250. I?ll never
forget that.
 
not sure why your nuts are in a bind , but I believe you are getting sage advise , tractors as a whole are not good investments at 17 you should be looking at your long term future are you saving for a home ? are you thinking about your near future of work are going to collage , trade school, how about retirement , I started mine when I was 23 I retried at 55 so dumping money down a rat hole does not seam smart. we old gold chainers how covered all the bases in our lives and have disposable income you don't , so when you move out of your parents basement hopefully you will understand , but its your life F it up any way you see fit.
 
This is one of the problems with being young (from an old geezer's perspective). It's not that we're smarter than you (probably not by a long shot) but we have lived many
times longer than you have and what may seem new to you, we've "seen it, done it, been there". After a whole lot of years, after you've paid off a mortgage, education, etc,
you'll have a lot more disposable income to spend on "hobbies". People trying to "screw you over" is something you might as well get used to because it never ends but as time
goes by you'll just shrug your shoulders, say "no thanks" and move on. You have to look at the bright side; the new tractors today will be your restorable "antiques" some
day. Be patient, your time will come.
 
My first reaction...."This is a hobby?!" I have no use for collectors or collecting. If I buy a tractor it is because I have a use for it. Don't show, pull, or join clubs. I have been known to "invent" a use to justify buying a cool tractor, but the real use is to provide me with a diversion. To repair it, drive it, whatever.

But really. You are 17 and people your age THINK they know a lot and have lived a lot but the reality is you are just getting started in life. A few more years and you will see the tractor group for exactly what it is...a sampling of society as a whole. Everything you find in society as a whole you will find in any smaller sample of it and frequently in the same proportion. So you are going to have a certain percent who are nice, who are not nice, who are generous, who are crooks and scammers...everything you would find elsewhere. Don't think you are going to join a group of tractor guys and we are all going to be kind and generous just because you are 17 and starting out. What you are experiencing is a life lesson. Take it for what it is. It's not a bad thing.
 
Unfortunately, there are "ckicks" of collectors out there that think they are better than everyone else.
I see this at tractor shows around here. They look down their noses at everything that isn't of their color preference, and does not have a $5000 automotive paint job on it, even if it does fit their color scheme.
Apparently you have run into the "Green Underwear" click. Just ignore them and seek advise from the guys that are not all shin and glitter.
Loren
 
(quoted from post at 09:58:10 01/19/19) Guess I missed it but what was the misfortune with the B? Assuming John Deere B?
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41 JD B, pretty straight tractor, never repainted, but upon teardown and dragging the block down to the machine shop to be bored, it came back as cracked. Crank splines where the clutch driver runs, were bad and needed a crank. I strongly suspect the head is cracked after the block fiasco.

At that point, I was debating using it as a parts tractor or selling it and finding a better candidate. Mentioned that on FB and on the forum here.

While searching for a block, and I was balking on the forum that everybody wanted for a bare block, 1/2 the price of what a running B goes for around here. The general consensus was that I was being a whiney *** and I should expect to pony up $6500 to restore a B [ridiculous]. Yes, seriously it was a bunch of guys with the attitude.

Some of the SAME guys who actually posted that I should just pony up and pay my dues to be in this hobby, actually messaged me and offered to "haul away my B for free" when I posted that I might part with it and find a better suited project.

Sorry for the rant. Its just frustrating.
 
i have to agree with you whole heartedly. It’s pisses me off to see young guys getting into this hobby to only be ridiculed and told its a waste of money etc Hobbies are costly some more than others. The reasons these old iron pieces are getting cheaper are because the older people that have collected them for years are dying out and no one including their kids or families are interested in them. We need more younger people to get involved to bring back the value of them. I have 21 and 17 yr old daughters trust me there are a lot worse things they can be out doing or spending their money on than an antique tractor and boys are worse (I know i sure was at that age) that’s why my dad kept me working all the time. The old saying “idle hands are the devils workshop” is 100% true. Sorry for the rant but if you enjoy it then continue on you may spend money but you will have something to show for it and your hard work and don’t pay any attention to the negative old jealous people on here.
 
Simple way to solve that problem - Get off of FB and stay off of the forums unless youre prepared to take a beating from the so called "experts"!
 
Don't get discouraged!!! I am the vice president of our local antique tractor club and the one single thing that I gripe about all the time to other members, is to try and get more young people to join our club and get involved in the sport. We do not have hardly any young members. Most of the kids around here all want to play on the phone or computer and don't want to get dirty. For 40 years I had no interest in tractor collecting, even though I worked on them every day. I now have 12 and one or two of them I would let go dirt cheap to a local kid that would take an interest in fixing them up.
 
(quoted from post at 10:34:13 01/19/19) i have to agree with you whole heartedly. It’s pisses me off to see young guys getting into this hobby to only be ridiculed and told its a waste of money etc Hobbies are costly some more than others. The reasons these old iron pieces are getting cheaper are because the older people that have collected them for years are dying out and no one including their kids or families are interested in them. We need more younger people to get involved to bring back the value of them. I have 21 and 17 yr old daughters trust me there are a lot worse things they can be out doing or spending their money on than an antique tractor and boys are worse (I know i sure was at that age) that’s why my dad kept me working all the time. The old saying “idle hands are the devils workshop” is 100% true. Sorry for the rant but if you enjoy it then continue on you may spend money but you will have something to show for it and your hard work and don’t pay any attention to the negative old jealous people on here.
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Just be smart about it don’t spend your whole paycheck on parts etc. take your time and enjoy the experience.
 
I'd say you nailed a good percentage of collectors,when they buy what you have its junk,when they sell its an old,never to be found again, piece of iron that is just about priceless.
And many always say you always loose money on old tractors,which is not true I've made pretty decent money off some old tractors just never throw money down a rat hole of a machine.
Anyway don't sweat it, there are plenty of good deals out there just have to look you have time on your side.You can always go to their auction after the their family gets a hold of their
collection after the collector passes.Heirs tend to sell cheap because they had no attachment,no money,no work involved with the old tractors.Save your money and look for bargains been doing it since the 1970's.
 
Too bad that you ran into some negative guys. Around north Iowa and southern Minnesota,
I've found tractor guys to be more than willing to help. All want to show you what they
have done and want to see your project. Have made a lot of good new friends. Much better
than SOME car show people (not all), who don't want you to touch their car, or look under
the hood. Some of them don't know what is under their own hood, anyway.
 
Don't be sorry for your rant. I can remember all to well the times when I was ignored or put down for my
opinions or questions simply because of my age. I'm 62 now and try to remember that when people of
any age want to ask or tell me something. Dave H said it best, this forum is a cross section of our
society and you're gonna have that in life, whether it's college, a job, church,a tractor show, or anywhere
people are gathered. The ones you like, visit with, the ones you don't, don't. For me old tractors are a
hobby and l'm thankful for the places this hobby takes me to, the people l've met, some that have turned
into friends. It's just like any other hobby, you can sink a ton of money in it or not so much. To me it's as
much about people as it is the tractors. Should be something shared and enjoyed with others if it is a
hobby. I know this don't help with your B but I hope it helps to get that bad taste out of your mouth. DP
 
The best advice came from the toy tractor collecting hobby when I first got started. Somebody said "collect what you like". Unfortunately,I didn't listen and like you are now,I got disgusted with those selling the stuff.


When I went to the big stuff,I changed my attitude. I collect what I like,simple as that. The thing to remember is,it's YOUR hobby and it needs to be a personal thing to your liking. I don't want to tell you not to collect a brand that you like because of the snobs,just know that they're there and will always badger you. You'll find others like yourself though and those are the ones you need to associate with.


Bottom line I guess,just ignore what others think and do what you want to do. Like I said,it's your hobby and your eventual collection.
 
Try to ignore the idiots, they are trying to hide their own failings. Every hobby will tend to have the same personality groups. There is the same problem in ham radio. The old guys that are true to the hobby will try to help and encourage the next generation coming up. We all started somewhere and we are still learning. A big part of life is learning who to ignore.
" Never get into a pxxxing contest with a skunk"
 
Join the crowd buddy, life sucks sometimes. I'm old enough to be your Grampa, like others have said this isn't a cheap hobby. I've bought a
couple of tractors as collectors, most are bought to use. you may get real lucky and make something on a project but mostly it's a hobby
another word for " spend money foolishly". Only spend what you can waste.
 
You need to tune out all the Negative Neds out there. Prices are high because the hobby caught on when lots of older guys got done paying on the mortgage and the
pickup truck then found they had an extra few thousand to throw at buying tractors every year. Younger people who have money are not geared towards tractors
typically so you are in an envious position that if you are serious about tractors there will be some fantastic deals on some nice tractors over the next few decades. It may
be harder to find projects on the less common or lower production tractors but there will always be an IH M or JD A waiting to be fixed up.
 
There are some good old guys out there, but they're few and far between. Was at a show one time, and an old guy had an unstyled BR that was in working clothes, but ran OK. Young guy came up and was really looking it over. Old guy asks if he has any questions. Kid was trying to figure out the difference between a BR and a BO, and he and the old guy had quite a discussion that went on from there. You could tell the kid was earnest, and really interested. Kid said he was going to look for a BR, that was what he wanted. Old guy said, "Well, this one's for sale." It was probably worth $1,000 as is. Old guy smiles and says "A hundred bucks, and I'll haul it to your place for you." Kid was thrilled, ran off to go home and get the money. I commented to the guy that that was a really nice thing he did, and he said "You've got to get the youngsters started if this hobby has any future. I've got more tractors than I can keep up with, and more money than I can spend. And he seemed like a nice kid that would follow through on the project."

The BR brought back memories of when I needed another raking tractor, and a guy had a good running BR- He wanted $450, I offered $400, he was firm, and I walked away. Live and learn, I guess.
 
My first post on YT was about Farmall C pushrods (IIRC) the second was about the price/value of a Farmall H. (I left my email open thinking it was the community
thing to do.) I got an email with explicitives allowing that I was beyond ignorant and should be realistic. (much harsher wording) I gave the whole thing a
second chance, I now have 30,129 posts and feel pretty well accepted. I do not trash people, but live past some who do. You can as well. I welcome young
individuals with an appreciation for mechanisms and thinking put together. Make your self at home (and ignore the "uncles with attitude" pretty harmless. Jim
 
Keep your head up and Kudos to you for speaking your mind, I see some real LOSER comments below, try and take those with a grain of salt as they are Very Unhappy individual's who enjoy slamming someone else to make themselves feel better but guess what, they are still going to be the self centered hateful folks they are after berating others so I actually feel sad for them, must be Horrible to be them. By the way its not just young folks they swoop down on for the kill, No matter what color you like We NEED new blood to keep things moving along, Thanks again for the post
cnt
 
Well after reading you situation on the b
that happens to all of us. Only
suggestions are ignore rude comments if
you want to restore it find another and
make one out of both. That series of b
should not be to hard to find parts for.
One sold near me for 400 with cultivator
yes it was a restoration but a good ca
didate for a beginner. Remember you stuck
out but at least you played ball.
 
sounds like you answered your own question you bought a paper weight you cant afford the repairs because your 17 and now we are the problem! no one is tell you not to get into tractors just as hopefully you have just learned it can be expensive, tires alone are a 1000.00 dollars
 

None of what goes on here has anything to do with who you are. You need to know who you are, where you are going in life and let the others be who they wish to be.
This is a form of socialization for many. We need to respect that.
Let them be who they wish to be and you be who you need to be. Watch, listen, and learn.
 
I am 68 and know what you are going through. I joined a old generator club but I ran into so many experts. That I quit and the club
folded a few yews later. To many experts trying to outdo the other.

Don't listen to the experts. Find the ones that offer good advice. And the ones willing to answer your questions.Start out with what
you want and can afford. Over time you will build up tools and other items.Paying your dues comes with time. In ten years you will
have a shop full of projects. Plus a bunch of items you will have no idea where they came from.

If some one offers to take an item off your hands. Most likely they are jealous that you found it first. Just get what you want and
enjoy yourself.
 
Nutty ...... I've read through the replies on this particular post (this time) and really, I don't see any that fit the description you have tagged them with. Maybe on some other post, I am just referring to this one today. I think the strongest anything got was to be careful that you don't spend a lot of money that you don't have and might consider using in some other way that will/might be more beneficial in the long run. That's the advice they gave, the young fella asked for some feedback (one way or the other) with his post. Hopefully, everyone doesn't have to agree with you or anyone else here on the YT forums.
 
I hope you don't let a bunch of jockeys
and horse traders discourage you. Most are
even worse than used car salesman but
there are some good ones. Keep looking!
The jocks offering to take the B off your
hands plan on parting it out for a few
grand or putting bubble gum on the cracks
and passing it on. Be very careful dealing
with a jock.

Sounds like you might be better off
hunting another and keeping yours for
parts. Just make sure it has a good
engine.

You have found a place here where folks
from all walks of life gather. From
garbage collectors to nuclear phycisyst's
and everything in between. Most will try
to help but we do have our share of b h---
- so keep that in mind.
 
Youngfellow; I am/was JD green to the bone. Look at my handle. LOL With this in mind think about my next statement. IF any person wants to play/collect/restore an antique tractor I would recommend any brand but JOHN DEERE!!!!!! The arrogance that seems to make people think they are better than anyone else really seems to show up among the JOHN DEERE collectors. It got so bad that 14 years ago I swore to never take a single piece of JD equipment to another show. This was after some JOHN DEERE self appointed correction police idiot argued with my wife that HER father's tractor could not have been ordered like it was. She started out nice by trying to tell him that she had receipt showing what and when her Father bought the tractor NEW. It escalated into a screaming match before I got there and ran the fool off. We decided on the way home that enough was enough. We have not taken a single tractor to a show since then. We have a couple of weekend gatherings for family each year and the tractors come out for that. I have sold all the JD antique tractors that do not have some family connection. So I am under 5 JD antique tractors now. When we quit showing I had over 20 running tractors.

I have been made more welcomed by the Ferguson, Allis Chalmers, and IH guys than the JD guys ever did. Now there are GREAT JD guys too. They just get shaded over by the bad eggs.

So forget the fellows that are idiots. Collect/run/own what you like and can afford. YOU are welcome to email me anytime. I will gladly help you any way I can. Truthfully if I have some parts that would help you let me know. Lately shipping is the only cost involved. I like helping people that will actually use the parts. If they are buying flipping than I am not going to "give" them an easy profit.
 
At every swap meet there are those with 50 dollar parts for a hundred dollars but somewhere at the same meet is that part for 30 dollars . It's all where you look.
 
Hey youngfellow, I agree with you a hundred percent, just
hang in there , I don?t know why some folks want to be such
smart A?s and so opinionated, glad to see a young guy take an
interest in old machinery cause with out your generation
getting in to it then all that will be left one day will just be
pictures.
 
I started messing around with old tractors in 1976 at age 13. Not many were restoring and collecting back then. Hard to get anyone to answer questions and take me seriously. Local dealer was the only place to ask advice and they were not wanting to offer any for free. They just wanted to have you bring it in and charge you for it. I got my hands on any service manual I could and read it. With the internet now it is easier than ever before to find advice and parts. Sure there are plenty of a holes. World is full of them ! I was able to finance many of my restorations by picking up several parts tractors. Saved me lots of money by having my own parts source and selling off to others. Seems like so many now are equipment jockeys just buying and selling because there can be good money in that. I've done my share of this too , but more in the past as good deals do seem far and few between now. I tried to help out a young guy get his own tractor. I checked it all out to make sure he did not get a piece of junk and let him have it at a real good price. I had thought he was going to take it to the next level and repaint it. Turned out he just soon traded it off on another that was a worn out piece of junk. Didn't really feel like doing too many more good deeds after that. You still can learn a lot from just tearing a tractor down. Might even not be a total loss if you can find some good used parts or a parts tractor or end up parting it out ?
 
There are plenty of good JD guys and a number of the IH guys can be miserable. Oliver, MM, and AC guys seem to be the most pleasant on average. Any club regardless of theme is going to have some miserable people involved and a few will be the leaders unfortunately. Pretty hard to go out in public and avoid these people.
 
Hey man, you are spot on with what you see. I am 27 and have been into old tractors for about 10 years. I have ran across the good and the bad. I have 2 Farmalls and a ford 9N. Most
people are nice. Sometimes people get upset with what they see because their are safety concerns, i.e no shields on pto equipment. Some of the Ford guys really come off with a know it
all attitude towards us younger guys. As others have said don't let them bother you. If you have questions post them here and ignore the people who are negative. Us younger guys have
to carry on the tradition. And as for part prices, I have found that craigslist can be a gold mine or a hell pit. Ive scored some great deals there and seen prices on stuff that are laughable.
Keep your head up and keep on.
 
I belong to a local tractor club .One of our big problems is getting young people involed. There has always been a few people that have to have everything their way or they are mad Too many old farts with too much money and time, but will not put any in the club The best members are those who have a real passion for the hobby of old tractors and farming,but they ignored.Some of the worst are tractor pullers.JD SELLER, around here IH guys are like your JD guys.To young guy do what you want not what everyone else is doing Ignor these people with fancy trucks because they usually got them jerking other people,[somewhat meantin fun]
 
Even on here you get some attitude. I have decided that if I can not add something nice or good to the post to just let it go. I still disagree from time to time but just try to be nice about it. Right now Ag is very depressed and many older tractors are way off in value. I think this affects most peoples attitudes. Many have trouble accepting that the A they spent $5000 on is only worth half that on a good day now. Even at equipment auctions it is much harder to strike up positive conversations. I have a dozen or so new generation Deere tractors and lots of that era equipment. Nothing expo or show quality but just stuff than we use and enjoy. I have never bought anything to impress someone else or down graded the work of another. You will learn in life that there are all kinds of people. Chose to be a good person and do your best to associate with the good people. Start small you will get there afterwhile. Tom
 
I never once said anyone has to agree with me and I am not sure what brought you to think that, one poster flat started telling him what he should be doing rather than collecting/restoring a tractor, there are a few more below also. You are right about it being done on many other posts here for sure, as that is what I read into the young mans post, If my words seem a bit strong and direct to you for that I am sorry, I have been called blunt before, when I see something I do not always sugar coat my words, I see now some Very nice helpful comments being posted Great job
 
and that's what where expressing to this young man not to spend 5k you don't have on a 2500.00 tractor as a hobby at 17
 
I'll give a couple cases in point to show how bad it was for me with IH. Before I delve into that I will say that my enthusiasm has picked up over the last several years for IH. I remember back in 1976 the nearest IH dealer brought out a used 1466 with 5 bottom plow to rent with maybe buying it. That tractor needed fuel filters or air filters as the power was lacking. We went between 2nd and 3rd low which seemed to be a little slow according to our IH loving neighbor. The dealer responded that the tractor was fine. Further, the tractor's appearance was not what we expected for what should have been 5 years old at the most at that time. The rubber was around 50 percent . I believe that they wanted around 20,000 dollars for that tractor which we figured was several thousand dollars too high. All in all it seemed like this dealer did not want our business even though we had bought a number of things from them over the last dozen years. At the same time it seemed about everybody else wanted our business. Fast forward to the late 1990's when I joined a club that was not officially themed but had a number of IH guys. I had my 986 by this time. For the most part I got dirty looks and insults from a lot of the IH guys when they found out our farm was not all red. Never mind the fact that between the guys who actually farmed and those who previously farmed but retired my family's farm had more IH stuff than they did. In some cases quite a bit more. It boiled down to that I did not have as many IH tractors as some but the JD dealers took better care of us from the time of the 1466 incident until the mid-1990's. I could not get that simple point across to most of these guys. It mellowed a little as time went by but the club was in decline due to age and poor health of a lot of the members.
 
Youngfellow don t get discourged. Would love to see more young guy s like yourself keeping history alive. Alot of
good replies on your thread. All of my tractors are still in their work closes. I take a couple to a few show s.
Never heard any negative comment s about them. Ya have to what your bank account will allow. Remember your future
also. RB
 
Forget some of the comments that you don't like. Pay attention to the 99% that want you to succeed. That's part of growing up too. You've already gotten far enough into your project to see the problems, but this isn't only a financial issue. There's a lot of learning to be had here and when you figure out the best solution and do it you will have accomplished a lot. Whether you find the parts you need, buy a parts tractor, make one out of two doesn't matter much. But you will have accomplished something very few people your age have done. Confidence in yourself is priceless.
 
I will just put in two cents. With my little plot of SJ my fun fun stuff is
garden tractors and tow behind carts. I love them all and have restored
several. Still costs money but no where what the big toys cost. Buy what you
like and can afford. Simple as that. Several replys have said how to hang
jerks. Two days ago somebody very high in the government sent a very nice
letter to another. Soooooo smooth and polite that just blew them out of the
water. Then dumped their luggage on a cart in the hallway. My opinion but it
sure was funny.
 
YoungFellow I grew up on this farm, we had about every color. Didn't seem to matter they each had their place. We were often looked down on because we didn't have anything that was close to IH Red which was the predominate tractor in this area. Most of my tractors, came from or were headed to the salvage yard when I got them. They responded with a LOT of TLC and did the job I asked of them. YES MISTAKES were made!!!! I learned from these and moved on. Do what YOU WANT! You will buy paperweights, but that is part of life!
 
I once had a Cockshutt 50 that I had in local parade . Some loud mouth self appointed know it all tols everyone within hearing distance it was not a Cockshutt but an Oliver painted red. I KNOW IT'S AN OLIVER YOU CAN'Y TELL ME DIFFERENT!

Maybe part of the reason he lost his butt and his wife's farm for her No one could tell him anything
 
Sounds like somebody on here who's always got his tail in a knot about two of my Olivers being David Browns painted green. lol
 
Thanks. Sending you an email if I can figure it out.

(quoted from post at 12:49:49 01/19/19) Youngfellow; I am/was JD green to the bone. Look at my handle. LOL With this in mind think about my next statement. IF any person wants to play/collect/restore an antique tractor I would recommend any brand but JOHN DEERE!!!!!! The arrogance that seems to make people think they are better than anyone else really seems to show up among the JOHN DEERE collectors. It got so bad that 14 years ago I swore to never take a single piece of JD equipment to another show. This was after some JOHN DEERE self appointed correction police idiot argued with my wife that HER father's tractor could not have been ordered like it was. She started out nice by trying to tell him that she had receipt showing what and when her Father bought the tractor NEW. It escalated into a screaming match before I got there and ran the fool off. We decided on the way home that enough was enough. We have not taken a single tractor to a show since then. We have a couple of weekend gatherings for family each year and the tractors come out for that. I have sold all the JD antique tractors that do not have some family connection. So I am under 5 JD antique tractors now. When we quit showing I had over 20 running tractors.

I have been made more welcomed by the Ferguson, Allis Chalmers, and IH guys than the JD guys ever did. Now there are GREAT JD guys too. They just get shaded over by the bad eggs.

So forget the fellows that are idiots. Collect/run/own what you like and can afford. YOU are welcome to email me anytime. I will gladly help you any way I can. Truthfully if I have some parts that would help you let me know. Lately shipping is the only cost involved. I like helping people that will actually use the parts. If they are buying flipping than I am not going to "give" them an easy profit.
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I apologize. I thought it was something personal,but you're like this to everybody aren't you. I've been taking your comments way too much to heart.
 
No matter what a person shows,be it tractors cars cows
whatever it can bring out the worst in a lot of people. My
advice is buy something you like that you can afford and do
what you enjoy with it. Use it at home,if anyone stops in and
tells you something?s wrong with it send them running. Seek
advice from people you know like and trust. Clubs can be
iffy,sometimes the members actually get along and really want
to help one another other times it?s just a bunch of arrogant
know it alls in a pi$$ing contest. We all know how bad pi$$
stinks.
 
I'll be 65 in May, and have played with all makes/models all my life, mainly because I don't drink hydraulic sandwiches or play cow pasture pool. I've lost count how many old tractors I've "fixed up", then sold to my farmer brother. I figure if having an old tractor ten years, then sell it for the same money I've enjoyed it. Very seldom has even a small profit ever been made. Keeping busy on old iron can be "therapy" too. Far as the correct police go, I don't worry about them at all. They don't know what to complain about first on the IH 560D I tractor drive with..
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This goes along with with advice given to someone looking to by their first tractor
to use around thier property. If doesn't have power steering,live pto and
hydraulic's AND a cab,And isn't over 70 hp , it's know worth looking at.
To each thier own.
 
youngfellow. I?m 17 years old. I know just how you feel. I have 5 John
Deere tractors now. I?ve had to buy a R engine block and pistons, it?s
not cheep but I really like working on and driving tractors. I farm to
pay for my tractors. Here where I live there are a lot of good John
Deere people that like a young guy and have really helped me. So
keep looking you?ll find good guys out there.
 
I have noticed on here some folks are pretty hard core on there ways. If its not there way well it aint right. But in saying that there is
alot of good and wise advise on here. Your always going to have those kind of folks that talk out both sides of there mouth and if you ever
did meet them you'll find out there dummer than a box of hammers. Just look over those kind of comments and tractor on. Good Luck
 
I don't know where you are located, but if I had a parts B I would gladly help you out. I love to see the younger folks getting into the hobby. I have a late 40s G block, but that doesn't help your B. Hang in there, something will show up. By the way, I am in NW Iowa and turned 73 last November.
 
Don?t worry about the people like that they aren?t
worth your time period . Do what you can do and
with what money you have and don?t worry about
the rest . I farm and have a custom farming
business and everything I use is old equipment to
do it and I don?t worry a bit about what anyone
thinks about it either
 
So you need to evaluate the cracked block and determine whether you want it like it is. I've got a D with a cracked block that just seeps oil. Big deal. Lot's of B's have loose flywheels.

My point is you can restore a tractor and enjoy driving and using it without trying to make it absolutely new. There's a lot of life and enjoyment in some of the old stuff that has defects. A lot of guys get H Farmall heads checks and throw them away because they are cracked. It's heat cracks and they've been there for years. It the head isn't leaking through the cracks they're OK to use.

A lot of people can't seem to put something back together that's not absolutely perfect, but unless you are that way, figure out what has to be fixed and get your B back together without breaking the bank. You can enjoy driving it for years with the right attitude.

I've got around sixty old farm tractors but never take them to shows. Too much snobbery, and I've usually got more tractors than the hot shot running everything down.

I make old fashioned brooms a some tractor shows and enjoy asking the JD guys "Why are there more John Deeres in collections than Farmalls?"

"The Farmalls are still working" and it's true. More H's and M's in service than D's, A's and B's.

Enjoy your tractors and don't worry about the other guys.
 
(quoted from post at 21:44:14 01/19/19) So you need to evaluate the cracked block and determine whether you want it like it is. I've got a D with a cracked block that just seeps oil. Big deal.
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Crack is between the cylinders in the deck and goes down the right side bore.
 
Haul it off for free, IDIOTS, they don't belong in good company. That is a big insult. No help there. Now if they would have said; we will help you get rid of it in the best way for you to recover some of your expences if you want to get rid of it and get something different ; then that would be acceptical behavior, but not haul it off for free, they just want to make money off your misfourtune.
 
randy don't even try the saint hood route I've read your post jumping big-tee trying to get him kicked off
 
youngfellow, since your in sw Wisconsin your not to far from the Le Sueur Mn swap meet. If you can’t come up with the parts you need you will find what you need there. Its in the end of April.
 
SW WI, huh? Have you been up to L&M salvage in Richland center? They have quite a boneyard with many Bs and many other makes and models as well. Sure should be able to get what you need very affordable there. If you need help getting parts off, let me know. I’m an hour fifteen from there and don’t go too often, but always like to see if they have something there I had
 
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