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Truck wrecking yard had enough

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37chief

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There has been a truck wrecking yard here in California for over 40 years. Gallant Truck Salvage, Oceanside. The owner finally got tired of the EPA, and their regulations, they quit. The owner brought in a crusher, and crushed hundreds of trucks of various years. This same EPA made a salvage yard put all their used iron under a roof to keep the metal from leaching rust into the ground. It probably will not be long for them to show up at farms, and make all equipment to be stored inside. How does a person control this group? Stan
 
Probably made them store their scrap inside as it was leaching oils and paints rather than rust. Scrapyards can have nasty pollution like PCB's and other stuff in them that runs off into shared water supplies.
 
There are a lot of ways for rust seeping into the earth. Kids swingsets, barbecues,car up on blocks in the backyard etc-etc. Are they going to be covered also? How about the old water pipes? Does rust really create a problem?
 
humans need iron in their diets & the rust is just trying to return for the place it came from!!!!
 
They did the same thing at my job, we had a bone yard for large equipment that had usable parts we wanted to save.
Get this! We are on the IRON range of MN. There is iron in the ground! Even as a child in the spring snow melt run off we had raw iron in the sand we could pick up with magnets.
There is no pollution from iron that can contribute more than what's already there where I live. You need iron for good health. Our bodies Need iron in our blood. There is no limit to the stupidity of our modern world.
 
Falling scrap prices and low demand for salvage parts might be part of the reason they're quitting. If there was good money in it the cost of meeting regulations wouldn't bother them.

It's popular for businesses to surrender polluted properties for back property taxes and stick the taxpayers for the cleanup costs. When local governments take preemptive steps to prevent themselves from getting stuck with the huge costs they are labeled as the "bad guys".
 
I really doubt if that's the real reason they're closing, low scrap prices probably more believable. As far as the EPA, many of you that are always bashing it are not old enough to remember life before the EPA! The river that I grew up on was so polluted that it was dangerous to swim in or to eat the fish, which there were few of. Now it is very clean and the fish are plentiful and safe to eat. We need the EPA, believe me!
 
Just note that the Federal EPA has one standard, every state at the very least has to follow that standard, but each state can enforce stricter standards if they wish and california is one of those states with much stricter standards.
 

The EPA is what caused all of the small, mom and pop type service stations to shut down and be removed. Now all we have are the chain store convenience store type of gas station. Can't get your oil changed, but you can buy a 6 pack. Can't get a flat tire repaired, but you can get a pizza. You can go to work at one of those convenience stores, but you can't own your own business. Progress??
 
Exactly, taxpayers gets stuck cleaning up the mess from folks who think its no big deal to let fluids run into the ground. The old scrap yards around here used to be a mess, oils and tanks not drained on arrival and they would be drained wherever when parts were picked. In 20 years once all the neighbours wells are contaminated and they try to make them clean up their mess they walk away and municipality left with drilling and piping in water from miles away.

Same with old gas stations with leaking in ground tanks. One by my inlaws ruined 30 families wells.
 
(quoted from post at 14:12:39 10/26/18) I really doubt if that's the real reason they're closing, low scrap prices probably more believable. As far as the EPA, many of you that are always bashing it are not old enough to remember life before the EPA! The river that I grew up on was so polluted that it was dangerous to swim in or to eat the fish, which there were few of. Now it is very clean and the fish are plentiful and safe to eat. We need the EPA, believe me!
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There was a time when the EPA was a helpful organization . However after pollution was cleaned up. The EPA has to regularly invent a new crisis to justify the budget .
You did not expect the EPA to layoff 90% of the staff and cut the budget by 75% once the rivers and air were clean.
 
In my township there is a guy who owns a salvage yard. He is so sick of all of the s he is running for councilman. A lot of people are going to vote for him. Will see what happens a couple of weeks from now.
 
Boise's only motorcycle salvage was told to excavate their yard, put down an impervious membrane, refill the yard with clean fill and then pave it or close. They are closed.
 
OK, several things here.

1. It's CA. The folks running CA think it's in the best interest of the people to do everything they can to get any gas/diesel guzzling, pollution belching thing off the road. They are also wanting to protect the soil and water.

2. Getting stuff like that under cover is not a new concept. And yes they can try to make it apply to everyone. I live in Otter Tail County MN. Several years ago they tried to pass a county concordance that would bar storing any farm machinery or crop outside. Yes, they wanted to make bunk silos have a roof, hay (wrapped or not)/bales be stored in a shed or building. In the process of defeating this idea (county commission tried to hide meetings about this) the county was threatened with legal action from farm groups that would not try to repeal it but would have applied the same rules to docks (ours have to come out in the winter) boats and even lawnmowers/rototillers/snow blowers. Of the commission all but one was not running for reelection and he was the only one against this idea.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 18:07:50 10/26/18) OK, several things here.

1. It's CA. The folks running CA think it's in the best interest of the people to do everything they can to get any gas/diesel guzzling, pollution belching thing off the road. They are also wanting to protect the soil and water.

2. Getting stuff like that under cover is not a new concept. And yes they can try to make it apply to everyone. I live in Otter Tail County MN. Several years ago they tried to pass a county concordance that would bar storing any farm machinery or crop outside. Yes, they wanted to make bunk silos have a roof, hay (wrapped or not)/bales be stored in a shed or building. In the process of defeating this idea (county commission tried to hide meetings about this) the county was threatened with legal action from farm groups that would not try to repeal it but would have applied the same rules to docks (ours have to come out in the winter) boats and even lawnmowers/rototillers/snow blowers. Of the commission all but one was not running for reelection and he was the only one against this idea.

Rick
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xactly, not running for reelection made them unaccountable! Why do you suppose that congress (accountable to voters) does not make the rules, but rather has invisible, unaccountable bureaucrats doing this dirty work? Hello?
 
There was a trucking company in Omaha been there for four generations, Epa came in and told them that they were going to have to re do their truck parking lot. They were to remove the asphalt put down cement create catch ponds etc. The old man came in and the young Epa guy started in on him. He turned around took a permit off the wall showed it to the guy from Epa. permit stated that they could spray used oil on the lot to keep down the dust. Permit was about 40 years old at the time. Then told the guy that's not pavement out there it's used motor oil. Epa left never returned.
 
Jacksun ..... well the guy with the permit sure did show the EPA guy where the bear crapped in the buckwheat. But meanwhile, permit or not, the groundwater has been contaminated, not my idea of a good situation.
 
There used to be an outdoor wood-burning boiler company near me that sold their boilers all over the United States. The EPA made them test their boiler and gave them a bill for $150,000. A year and a half later, the EPA went to them and demanded that their boilers be tested again, to the tune of another $150,000. The company closed down.
This was the word of the owner of the boiler factory, not mine.
 
Heck if I can remember that was in 1998. They used to do a lot of things like that back then. I remember them spraying Ferris rd in Riverdale MI when I was a kid. Two state trucks with belly blades would go by then a large semi tanker would follow spraying oil on the roads.
 
The cycle company was Nicks motorcycles in Williamstown NJ. Years ago when I had my Harley I would get my parts from him and some repair work also.
 
Sure. https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2015/08/epa-pollutes-river.html?m=1 Clean river brought to you by the very EPA you defend. NOT!
 
For the fish deal. They still have don't eat the fish statements on the boob tube about the Saginaw river occasionally. The EPA and it has grown into a bloated over bearing varmint.
 
I had a '79 JD radiator clogged and took it to a radiator shop to have it rotted out (or whatvever you call it). Owner told me the EPA shut him down. No more acid tanks and all. All he said he could do was what I did at home. Wrong answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Have you ever lived near a neighbor with a poor burning furnace/boiler? It sounds like the companies boilers were not capable of burning clean enough to passing the minimum requirements of the test. If they could they would be bragging about it. Closing may have saved potential buyers and their neighbors a big stink.
 
The reason I asked is because if the company is still in business they probably do have the catch basins in place, especially if they are connected to any kind of municipal or publicly funded storm drain.
 
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