question for the cattlemen

Ray IN

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I am wondering if an overweight bull is safe to use to breed some smaller cows. I have a friend that wants to borrow this bull, but the bull has been fed too much and is too fat, probably 1800--2000 lb., and is a limousin x. The cows are mostly 2 to 4 year old angus x and kind of thin looking and average or lower frame size. I am just wondering if anyone has heard of cattle being hurt trying to be bred.
 
It can happen, but the bull can get hurt too. Their footing has to be secure, if the bull causes the cow to go down, she may suffer muscle or nerve damage. If poor footing causes the bull to go down he could also get nerve damage and suffer impotence. I would be more concerned about the cows though.
Ben
 
If you ever caught a bull "delivering" you wouldn't worry about your current situation. My Brangus usually bred at night. One night I accidentally caught one. Talk about "Zip-bam-thankyou-mam", animals having a "bone" allows them to get on with business in short order.

My bull was running around 1800-2000 at the time and the cow was over being a yearling, not all that large. He hardly touched her and in a couple of seconds, he kicked up his legs, his whole body was in the air, positioned on the rear of her at about a 45 degree angle and as he came back down (aftermath) she just moved forward out from under him........to stand out away from him with her tail up and a kink right at the tip where the big ball of hair is located.

I have heard of an instance of two over the 40 years I've been learning how to farm/ranch but it's a seldom event and I'm talking about free range cattle where the tot and grand folks are all there together.
 
I was at a sale barn once and noticed an adorable, mature specimen of a Brangus bull. Upon further examination, there was about 2" of pink hanging out from under his sheath. Apparently he was servicing and something went wrong and he broke the end of the bone....useless as a breeder.
 
Very seldom will a cow get hurt, or a bull for that matter matter. Most bull injuries come from another bull hitting the first while he is mounted.
I have had heifers bred on the cow, ?7 months old? and they had to have been bred by a 2500 pound purebred bull.
 
Texasmark1 - With that type of situation, if the Bull's blood-lines were good, wouldn't he be a prime candidate for manual semen collection for AI ?
 
Dr. Walt - I had a bull that broke his necessary part. It swelled up as big as a softball at the tip. The vet said, "Sell him today, no later than tomorrow. The day after tomorrow will be too late." According to the vet, it swells outward until it will swell no more, and then swells inward and blocks the waste flow. At some point he becomes unsellable as a slaughter animal.
 
My uncle Bruce weighed close to 450 pounds back in the day and Aunt Sally would have had a hard time tipping the scales at 100 pounds. They had six kids and she seemed as healthy as a horse and never had a sprained or broken limb that I remember. Mind you, that wasn't happening on a wet barn floor or outside in the mud (I don't think) or the pasture (hopefully).
 
That;s what breeding stalls are for....with a shelf on each side for the bull to rest his front feet on.
 
Interesting thought. Don't know why the owner didn't consider that....maybe wasn't setup for it or didn't want to fool with it. I wasn't present for the sale so I have no idea as to the outcome. Possibly he was purchased by someone with that in mind. Makes perfect sense. There was no swelling and he seemed to be content.
 

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