Got a chance to get a 28 ft gooseneck trailer to haul my tractors with, real reasonable. I know the guy that owns it very well and I know the history of the trailer, it's a good one. The problem is he bought it new in 2001 and it's never had new tires. Obviously it has sit more than it's been used. Tires still look OK, ain't weather checked, still got good tread, so how is too old? Thinking 8 new tires might sour the deal, or just go ahead and get em replaced and not have that worry. Whatcha think?
- Thread starter DPittman
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Steve@Advance
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I would replace them.
At that age they can't be trusted, especially if you will be running highway speed.
At that age they can't be trusted, especially if you will be running highway speed.
TGP
Member
Radial or Bias?
Sounds like tandem axle dual wheel.
My trailer (2 axle 8 tires) bought new in 1980.
Rebuilt it 05 but had like new 25 year old bias tires on it.
Made two 800 mile trips no problem.
Then a bought 8 new bias tires to replace them because they were hard as a rock.
I would never have attempted that with radials.
Age don't bother Bias Tires as much.
Tom
Sounds like tandem axle dual wheel.
My trailer (2 axle 8 tires) bought new in 1980.
Rebuilt it 05 but had like new 25 year old bias tires on it.
Made two 800 mile trips no problem.
Then a bought 8 new bias tires to replace them because they were hard as a rock.
I would never have attempted that with radials.
Age don't bother Bias Tires as much.
Tom
Loren in Iowa
Member
I'd run them until you start blowing them. If one let's go, you've still got seven left.
Bob Harvey
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Same on the 'Wet Coast', if you get stopped and the tires don't come up to 'snuff' - off the road and maybe a towing bill.
I have tires that are at least 25 years old I am using with no intentions of replacing them. Where the poster said 10 year old will not pass check, I wonder how much of a kick back that goverment is getting on the sale of each new tire to replace better tires that they are now having to buy.
flying belgian
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Just replace them and be done with it. You blow one on way to a parade or show and it screws up your whole day. Plus every time you use it you will be sitting on pins and needles worrying if one is going to blow.
My experience is that at 8 yrs. + I'm going to have a blowout soon and a blowout is always where you don't want one. I've changed 4 in the last few years trying to run tires with good tread and no weather checks but blow out on the interstate all 8 yrs. to 10 yrs.old. From now on when they get 8 years on them they are going to get replaced. This is on a stock trailer and when loaded. No fun!
oliver power
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My trailer is rated at 20,000 GVW, and has tandem duals. When the machine is loaded, I'm pushing the max GVW. Would not want to be second guessing the tires. Trailer is new, so tires are not a concern at this time.
I'd think the sidewall of the tires are the big concern, not the tread. The sidewalls on my trailer flex a lot. Especially when loaded.
I'd think the sidewall of the tires are the big concern, not the tread. The sidewalls on my trailer flex a lot. Especially when loaded.
Hay hay hay
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I had the same question on some 6 year old horse trailer tires. They were 10 ply Carlisle. They answered the question for me...when one blew the tread off sitting in the yard parked.
37chief
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- California
The tires are getting old all right. If they have been covered it would help. I would look for tire shops that sell used tires. Might pick up a set of used ones a few years old. Stan
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
How far do you haul your tractors? If its just around close from one farm to another its one thing if you're going to be highway hauling long distances its another.Also do you load the trailer heavy or light? One blowout at highway speeds can be more costly than a set of tires.
caterpillar guy
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Carry 2 spares and run them if one blows change both then run the good one with the next blow out. Work your way through them. Is it a pain yes do they need to be changed right away maybe not. I bought several new take off's one time never wore one out they all blew out. Never bought another new or used Michelin again.
MarkB_MI
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- Motown USA
I don't get your logic. Is the trailer somehow worth less if you replace the tires than if you don't?
With 17 year old tires, they will need to be replaced in the near future. So let's say five years from now you decide to stop pushing your luck and replace those tires. Will it be cheaper to replace them then than it is now?
With 17 year old tires, they will need to be replaced in the near future. So let's say five years from now you decide to stop pushing your luck and replace those tires. Will it be cheaper to replace them then than it is now?
Thanks everybody, pretty much thinking the same things I was. Kinda wondering why I even asked since changing tires on the road is one of the activities that is never on my list of things to do. It's just never convenient. The only other thing to think about is getting my drivers license upgraded to make me legal. Thanks again.
unclemerle
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Is the trailer a tamdem axle duelly or just a tandem? If it was a duelly I'd run them as is, if it's singles run it with light loads close to home and if I was going cross country it would be with new ones.
Copperhead don't play
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My FIL had a half-ton truck with Michelin tires. To the best of my knowledge the heaviest load he ever hauled was his groceries.
Probably put 17,000 miles on it in 9 years. Then the tires started coming apart at the seams. They became egg shaped one after another.
Probably put 17,000 miles on it in 9 years. Then the tires started coming apart at the seams. They became egg shaped one after another.
Andy Martin
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Well, I get it. If you have to replace eight tires at $150 each you can pay $1,200 more for a newer trailer with better tires.
Tires may be ok as long as you don't put a tractor on the trailer. Deterioration is not apparent until they are under pressure and heat build up. I would figure you need to replace the tires and check out the brakes after sitting 17 years, especially if it sat outside most of the time.
I bought a used tandem axle, bumper hitch trailer. When I crawled under it, I saw that the right side tires had sidewall splits in them. I bought better used tires for my truck and put the old truck tires on the trailer. I think that might have been 5 years ago. Two weeks ago, I went to a gravel pit and asked for 7500 lbs of gravel. They put on 5.2 yds and I weighted 23,280. I only drove about 30 mph on the way home(25 miles on county blacktop). Then I went to a local pit and got some sand. They wanted to know how much I wanted. I thought that sand would be lighter than the gravel, I was wrong. MY old tires are still good.
Andy Martin
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It's all part of being taken care of by the government because we are obviously too stupid to determine what we should be doing.
I haul hay and tractors, and am usually running near or over max load. I find that when tires are over 5 to 6 years old, I blow one every trip. This year hauling hay, I blew one tire and had two more go out of round and they are 6 years old. I am slowly replacing the E rated tires with G rated tires. I have three trailers. Two are tandum singles 14k, and one is tandum duals25k. keep in mind the 25k gooseneck weighs 7k empty, so running with 30k total load for the short,150 mile, trips loaded with round bales on farm/market roads is not a high speed operator. Usually 60 mph is fine. Down here at 5 to 6 years, the sidewalls are showing cracking anyway. Like batteries, I dont know if geographic location as more to do with life than other areas. 22.5 inch simi tires seem to run longer with with the cracking down here, but the 16 inch tires dont do well after 6 years. And partially used tires down here are cracked just as bad, so basically you dont wear out your trailer tires down here, you rot them and blow them out.
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
Does Ontario still fail vehicles at safety inspection for rust holes in the body bigger than a finger?
Stephen Newell
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If they are radial tires I wouldn't trust them not to blow. If they are bias tires I would just go by their appearance.
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