Smalltowner
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Interesting read about origin of that big old canyon. I personally believe it was formed in the great biblical flood.
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Janicholson
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I have 250 miles of permitted hiking and wilderness camping in that chasm. It not biblical. The lower 40% is igneous rock And Plutonic rock. Formed 2 Billion years ago. There is a fault right down the river with the north side ~ 1000 ft higher than the south. Native Americans were living in that area for 9000 years. Jim
teddy52food
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I think it was caused by an electrical discharge between the earth and a large comet passing by. The delta of that river is not big enough for the material missing.
Janicholson
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The one before the last one. Jim
Glaciers of our last North American Ice Age receded back to Canada around 11,700 years ago. Geologists think the sea level rose quite a bit during the melt off of glaciers at that time.There was another Ice Age way longer ago than that. From calculations in the Good book the Flood mentioned in it can be placed at roughly 2300 BC.(4318 years ago). So the Canyon has had lots of century's of erosion to form, 2 ice ages we know of and a flood recorded in the Good book.
rlp in Co.
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I too believe that it was cut durring the flood in Noah's time. One year we had some really deep snows here in Colorado. In the spring all that snow started to melt rapidly. The loco managers had lake mead almost full. All that water came down the Colorado River and quickly filled lake mead and the spillways at the dam could barely keep up. Anyway the found that the water had ate away something like 8 or 10 feet of the best concrete made in 24 hours, at the bottom of the spillways. If the water had gone over the top They were afraid that They would loose the dam.They call it cavitation. It can eat thru solid granite rock. And this was a tiny, tiny, tiny, flood compared to the great flood.
danofarming
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How much has the river bed eroded in the last 100 years of recorded history?
rlp in Co.
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Steve@Advance
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I believe it very well could have been carved during the flood.
There was more to it than just rain, the whole planet heaved up mountains and swallowed valleys.
Another explanation I have heard involved the melting of a huge ice dam up north where the canyon begins. Accumulated water from melting glaciers was released all at once gouging out the canyon. Supposedly there are boulders from rock formations found only in the northern regions that were tumbled all the way down to the southern end of the canyon, much too big for normal river current to have moved.
There was more to it than just rain, the whole planet heaved up mountains and swallowed valleys.
Another explanation I have heard involved the melting of a huge ice dam up north where the canyon begins. Accumulated water from melting glaciers was released all at once gouging out the canyon. Supposedly there are boulders from rock formations found only in the northern regions that were tumbled all the way down to the southern end of the canyon, much too big for normal river current to have moved.
Crazy Horse
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Well, I guess that pretty much puts all of the scientists out of work and proves that evolutionists are fraudulent. For me, it provides some comic relief from stressful weather up here over the past while.
Crazy Horse
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SS ...... the joke around here years ago was it was formed after a fella from Scotland dropped a nickel down a gopher hole (with my apologies to anyone from that country).
37chief
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The one and only time I was there, I carried my daughter in a back pack down toward the bottom. Daughter is 45 now. Stan
Janicholson
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Maybe 6 inches downward. I have seen house sized bolders crash 4000 ft down from near the top (scared poopless) it is a continuous process. The river runs cleaner now most of the year because of the Glenn Canyon Dam settling out silt from the upper Colorado River. The Little Colorado dumps plenty of silt abrasives in the spring, turning the river red (as it was continuously before the Glenn Canyon dam. Jim
OregonAaron
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Let us not forget that evolution is only a theory. That's why it's called the theory of evolution. If it were a fact it would be the fact of evolution. It has NEVER been proven although many take for granted that it is fact.
Janicholson
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The only theory about it is that we do not have video lasting 4.5 billion years. The oldest multi
celled animal was recently classified as being 550 million years old. I have a fossil 510 million
years old. To have micro managed that would have been goofy. Jim
celled animal was recently classified as being 550 million years old. I have a fossil 510 million
years old. To have micro managed that would have been goofy. Jim
Hay hay hay
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You are welcome, in my opinion, to believe what every you wish. If you think the world is flat, OK by me. It is only when you decide to pass laws and change the government in order to force your beliefs on me that I get upset. Nothing in America stops you from your beliefs. It is making America a taliban state to support and enforce your beliefs that upsets the rest of us.
X-Y switch
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How about fall plowing ?
OK prove what is in the "good book" is true with take it to the bank concrete proof. You cannot prove one little bit except the location of some of the places mentioned in that book. Heck the earliest writing is from around 3400-3100 BCE. Yet the Jewish good book wasn't written down until about 450 BCE. Now here is the funny part. Almost every ancient religion what we have writing from claims a great flood. But they are widely divergent on when this great flood and each has a devout family that is saved......by whatever god serviced that religion!
Rick
OregonAaron
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I said nothing of any book. I ONLY said evolution was a theory. Yall can take this where you want. I did not want or desire an argument. I do not have a problem with how any other person wants to believe or live. Just covering my bases because I don't want anyone to have the wrong idea about me.
MarkB_MI
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Personally, I think it was formed when Zeus took a whiz. And I have just as much evidence to back my theory as you have to support yours. Which is to say zilch.
Most cultures have a flood myth. It's not hard to figure out why: Pretty much everywhere you go in the world there's evidence of massive water erosion; it must have been very perplexing to ancient people who could not have conceived of the real age of the earth. And if they found fossilized seashells in limestone, they wouldn't understand that what is now desert was once under the sea. So they made up stories that explained as best as they could what was clearly in front of their eyes. Now if we could go back a few thousand years and explain these things to those goat-herders, they would probably say "oh, that makes sense". But their half-baked theories got written down as holy scripture, so now it is blasphemy to dispute them, even though scientists from Copernicus on down have disproven them.
Most cultures have a flood myth. It's not hard to figure out why: Pretty much everywhere you go in the world there's evidence of massive water erosion; it must have been very perplexing to ancient people who could not have conceived of the real age of the earth. And if they found fossilized seashells in limestone, they wouldn't understand that what is now desert was once under the sea. So they made up stories that explained as best as they could what was clearly in front of their eyes. Now if we could go back a few thousand years and explain these things to those goat-herders, they would probably say "oh, that makes sense". But their half-baked theories got written down as holy scripture, so now it is blasphemy to dispute them, even though scientists from Copernicus on down have disproven them.
Evolution itself is a FACT. Easily proved by seeing how domesticated animals evolve through breeding or man evolves with better nutrition. Evolution from apes, etc.? That is still theory, just as intelligent design is theory. Both are entirely possible, both have big holes in the process. I have faith there is a higher power, but I'm not going to say the earth is only 4300 years old as some of my friends believe. I think we'd all be better served by accepting that we don't know what we don't know and accept that we just may never have all the answers.
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