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Ho hum. Just another pit bull attack

Such a shame, I have no use whatsoever of this breed and my opinion is that they should be eradicated. I almost got attacked by one back in June or May of this year while working, was able to get the fire extinguisher off my work truck and gave him a white dusting with it, put his tail back on the porch, called my supervisor and told him what I did in case home owner called in to report my actions. My boss laughed about it and said that wasn?t in my job procedures manual...
 
A couple weeks ago near me, a guy and his wife were walking their dogs and a pit bull attacked one of the dogs. Luckily he was an off duty Sheriff's deputy and shot the dog. The pit bull lovers had a fit, but he didn't get charged with anything - score one for the good guys..
Pete
 
My guess is that in the future homeowner's insurance will make you take out an additional policy.

I'm a beekeeper. State law requires that we do certain things to make sure the public is protected from our bees. Same type thing us required of people who have exotic animals.
Sometimes when I go in Tractor Supply someone gas one of those things on a leash. I am always worried it will attack someone and I will have to pull out my pistol and shoot it right there in the store.
 
You can't blame a breed for bad dog owners. The problem with a pit bull is it's big enough and strong enough if it's trained to be aggressive can do a lot of damage. Since the woman just got the dog nobody knows just what abuse the dog received before she got it.
 
There is a dog fighting pen about 1/2 mile from my house, many people in the area keep pits to fight and as hog dogs, I killed 2 last year that got in our hog pen. If I see any I will kill them whether they are on my land or not because I have 3 little Grand Daughters who come every week.
 
My wife was bitten while walking down the road by a pit bull that ran off the homeowners property after her and wasn't going to report it. I demanded she did, the incident was investigated by authorities and the dog put down. I like dogs as much as anyone but you cant have a dog that may kill say an innocent child minding their business, NOT bothering the dog, on public property. Fortunately, that's the current law of the land which I happen to agree with (others may not, to each their own).

John T
 
LAA,
I agree with you 100% but be careful advertising your actions, you never know who will bring the heat down on you, play dumb if the neighbor asked what happened to his pit bull
 
"You can't blame a breed." Oh yes you can. If there wasn't a problem with the breed, they could not be so easily "damaged" psychologically that one would kill a woman who was presumably showing it nothing but love, and be so uncontrollable afterwards that the only recourse was to euthanize it.

What other breed operates like that?
 
Yep, they ought to be outlawed. One got our meter-man around the throat once, he made it back to the truck and called for help, didn't kill him, but it tried.
 
Statistics make that a false statement. Pit attacks are more severe whether they have had owners or "good" owners. That's why so many reports have the owners saying they don't understand what happened because their sweet little dog never showed any signs of aggression before. That is easy to confirm with a little research.
 
Let us examine that word you just used - euthanized.

First, let me start off with a definition. Euthanasia is a mercy killing to end an animal's suffering. I have had to euthanize two of my dogs. One because he was suffering from kidney failure and was in great pain and suffering. The other was from old age. She was over 17 years old and had suffered a stroke and could no longer stand up on her own. That is MY definition of euthanasia.

The pit bull that attacked, mauled, and killed that woman was NOT suffering in any way. it was aggressive and apparently meant to harm others. That dog was executed as might be any other murderer. Why candy coat it and disguise the facts with euphemisms? Call it what it was - an execution of a dangerous dog that had already killed a human.

My not so humble opinion!
 
(quoted from post at 09:04:01 09/06/18) You can't blame a breed for bad dog owners. The problem with a pit bull is it's big enough and strong enough if it's trained to be aggressive can do a lot of damage. Since the woman just got the dog nobody knows just what abuse the dog received before she got it.
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If you breed an animal to be aggressive, then you get an aggressive animal. Other breeds have been bred to be docile and "bidable", ie- easy to work with. My Pyrenees are bred to be independent and to bond with their herd. So, yes, we most certainly can blame the breed. We can also blame the owner that encourages aggressive behavior, but the breeding is a big part of that.

Blaming the owner is fine, but you also have to blame the breeder and breeding.
 
There is a segment of our population that will do anything to make money. They have no regard for the consequences of their actions as long as they are making money. Whether they are raising pit bulls in a puppy mill, selling drugs on the street, dumping toxic chemicals on vacant land, or charging 2% interest per day in a Payday lender shop. That is why we must have laws and enforcement. Sad but true.
 
Why is it that one breed seems to attract 99% of the bad owners? When was the last time a purebred cocker spaniel mauled some one to death? I guess bad owners are just not drawn to other breeds for some very strange reason?
I was a landlord for thirty years. I've been attacked three times by dogs. All three were pit bulls. All three were not supposed to be in the properties. All three owners rented from me NO PETS but decided to sneak a dog in. All three attacks happened outside the home. All three dogs were allowed out and to roam by the owners.
In the first attack, the dog came under my truck and grabbed my leg. I shot it dead.
Attack number two I saw the dog coming and jumped over the fence into the yard next door. Dog ripped my pants leg but didn't get me. The dog was not in a fenced yard. he was in an open yard, then headed up the street and disappeared. when the police arrived, they went straight to my tenant's door. The dog was in her living room.
Attack three happened as I was exiting my vehicle. I saw it coming, got back in, and the dog attacked the door handle of my truck.
 
Yeah yeah I appreciate someone's rights. I know, I know. But I think what I'd appreciate if my neighbor decided to raise Cobras. I'm agin it.
 
Sad story ...... one of the posts below says:

"You can't blame a breed for bad dog owners. The problem with a pit bull is it's big enough and strong enough if it's trained to be aggressive can do a lot of damage. Since the woman just got the dog nobody knows just what abuse the dog received before she got it."

Maybe someone can explain, do the owners of these vicious pit bull dogs actually "train them" to be mean and aggressive? And is it necessarily the case that the dog has been abused earlier? I think they're just made that way in the first place.

I just don't get anyone defending the reasons for these things happening.
 
I remember hearing about how many times stronger a pit bulls bite jaw pressure was then any other breed. Too bad I don't remember the numbers. Now add that in with bad owners and aggressive breeding you got a ticking time bomb on your hands !
 
First off I Don't own a pit bull but have family members that have had pit bulls (7 total) over the years and not a one of them ever showed signs of aggression. These dogs were raised from pups around the kids and adults. You can make any dog mean if trained to be mean or your abusive to them. I remember when there were other breeds of dogs labeled bad just like pit bulls.
 
No no,couldn't have happened. Fake news. A long time member of this forum will guarantee you that those dogs are 100% harmless.
 
I'm sorry,but those dogs have something in them genetically that causes them to snap. It's just like a fainting goat,it can't help it.

The wife and kids had several Rottweilers over the years. Most people fear those too. Every one we had here was just a big baby except one male. He wasn't treated any different,but I made her get rid of it. It was just a matter of time until that dog was gonna kill somebody. I never would turn my back on that thing.
 
Back when I raised OE Game bantams (chickens for those who don't know), I would let them out on the lawn daily. There were some roosters that always came at you when your back was turned. Some of these were pretty nice birds. I kept a 30" piece of 1" semi flexible vinyl pipe out there and any rooster that consistently came after me got his skull fractured. Then I would breed from the rest. After a couple generations I never had an issue with mean roosters again. At first I tried everything in the world to stop the behavior but no amount of conditioning or training stopped the problem. Game chickens were originally bred to fight/kill and you needed to get those genetics eliminated before they were good pets/show birds. My 2 cents. There is a moral in there somewhere. :)
 
That can happen with any dog breed. What my dad called a mean dog and it didn't live long. We had collie's when I was a kid all well behaved except one. Heard a shot one day and he was gone. We had dogs from the other farms come to visit. Never had a problem from any of them. I still say a dog is mean only if it is taught to be. You will find the rare one that is born mean.
 
(quoted from post at 08:43:47 09/06/18) My guess is that in the future homeowner's insurance will make you take out an additional policy.
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It is already happening.
Have not heard of being forced to buy additional insurance.
But some insurers forbid certain breeds to be on the property or else they will not sell you insurance period.
Or they will cancel your policy or not pay a claim if the find out you are keeping a banned breed.
 
Poor title post. I have to wonder how many other breeds and races and even plants ya'll think should be exterminated just because of perception, probabilities, and possibilities? History tells us it's been tried over and over. The result is never good.
 
My older sister lives in Columbia, surrounded by libbies. Euthanasia is a comfy word for them. Surely they would be aghast if they heard the word "shot"
 
The term aggression is missused in this case. Pits and rots are not more agressive, and are quite friendly as a rule. Its just that They are bred as attack dogs and so when they do bite, which is no more frequent as a percentage wise, it is so much more severe. Calling them aggressive is what leads to the great debate and the defense that they are sweet dogs.
 
They're known for this and while the raising of any breed of dog plays a very important role in their adult behavior, there is more to this with this particular breed.


It could be stated that all dogs, animals for that matter, have the potential to act on their instincts, which could include aggressive behavior and is likely more prevalent in some breeds.


My experience with them is they come across really cool, seem to be a lot of fun, but also have a dark side, not all, but I have seen it both ways enough to never trust any of them.

Girl who worked at our farm had one with her daily, he was a lot of fun, well mannered, and you'd think it'd be great to have him for a weekend or something. Interact with him daily, for months, but one day, he turned and was barking at me and acting aggressively for no reason. My solution to that would be zero tolerance and had I been armed, I would have put him down because I feared for my safety, ( I did not exhibit fear, worst thing you can do with any mean dog ).


They have the build and instinct to be extremely dangerous, yet people trust them and will defend that trust to no end.

I cannot see how you can trust them, knowing they all have the potential, so I guess an owner accepts that risk going in when having one of these dogs. You cannot deny they have the potential that is just ignorance. I don't like the idea of having to condemn them either but the reality is getting mauled or killed and that is a giant risk to accept to have one of these.

I realize that some have not had them misbehave and will base an opinion on that, which is fine. I would never have one because of the potential risks involved, I hate mean dogs with a passion and have been torn up by same multiple times growing up and dated a girl almost mauled to death by another breed. Getting mauled by your own dog or dogs is not on my bucket list.

Some lady came up my lane in the last week and was walking one of these, or I should say it was walking her. I have seen the same one or one just like it running loose on my land. It stopped when it saw me and took a few minutes to decide on whether to walk off. The last thing I want to encounter is one a strange one of these running loose on my land and not be armed. It's a scary thought that you need to watch out for coyotes, stray pit-bulls and or black bear which are coming back. 2 of the 3 would likely not be a threat, but that pit bull could be a lot more than the other 2.
 
(quoted from post at 08:51:16 09/06/18) Let us examine that word you just used - euthanized.

First, let me start off with a definition. Euthanasia is a mercy killing to end an animal's suffering. I have had to euthanize two of my dogs. One because he was suffering from kidney failure and was in great pain and suffering. The other was from old age. She was over 17 years old and had suffered a stroke and could no longer stand up on her own. That is MY definition of euthanasia.

The pit bull that attacked, mauled, and killed that woman was NOT suffering in any way. it was aggressive and apparently meant to harm others. That dog was executed as might be any other murderer. Why candy coat it and disguise the facts with euphemisms? Call it what it was - an execution of a dangerous dog that had already killed a human.

My not so humble opinion!
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ou sure got that right! all this politically correct stuff make me want to vomit.
 
I saw a report back in the early 90s IIRC. It wasn't on dogs but on dog owners. It was astounding how many people who own pits are on the fringe of society and or have criminal backgrounds.

A study conducted found that: High risk dog owners had nearly 10 times more criminal convictions than other dog owners. Breaking the data down by categories of criminal behavior they found that high risk dog owners were 6.8 times more likely to be convicted of an aggressive crime, 2.8 times more likely to have carried out a crime involving children, 2.4 times more likely to have perpetrated domestic violence, and 5.4 times more likely to have an alcohol related conviction when compared to low risk dog owners.

The high risk owners evaluated owned one of 6 breeds. Akita, Chow Chow, Doberman Pinscher, Pit Bull (usually includes Staffordshire Bull Terriers, American Pit Bull Terriers, and American Staffordshire Terriers), Rottweiler, and Wolf-hybrids.

Rick
 
There's no question a out that, but it doesn't have anything to do with how serious a dog attack will be, only if it is more likely to happen. And a bad owner will make a calm breed like a lab mean too, but the lab is not as likely to kill.
 
(quoted from post at 04:43:47 09/06/18) My guess is that in the future homeowner's insurance will make you take out an additional policy.
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All of my tenant liability insurance carriers prohibit pit bulls on the property. I had one guy get one, he wouldn't get rid of it, so he had to go. Hope he found a nice place.
 
It isn't the strength, it is the persistence. A friend returned home one day and found a stranger sitting on his couch and his German Shepherd sitting calmly by. The stranger had every thing on the couch including his feet.
My friend told the guy to leave or he was calling the cops.
Stranger replied, call the cops, and moved his foot toward the floor. The shepherd immediately began to growl.
 
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