So if you where to recomended a new tractor which brand

old · Aug 8, 2018

So young neighbor is trying to sell his new to him Ford 851. He thinks he needs a new or close to new tractor instead of an old one. So if you where to recommended a new or new tractor what brand would to say to go with. He is thinking Mahindra but I'm not so sure about that one. I told him Kubota but he sounds like he thinks there to costly. So what say you guys??

JD Seller · Aug 8, 2018

Well Mahindra is selling the heck out of tractors. They are a economy car when comparing them to a Kubota as a Cadillac. With Mahindra it really makes a HUGE difference in what dealer you buy them at. There is very limited company support. So if you buy from a good dealer then you will think they are great/cheap. If you buy it from a dealer that has little to zero service then your in for trouble.

Lance on here bought one. I think he moved or bought it fairly far away from where he lives now. He was trying to get a more local dealership to handle warranty issues he had with it. That did not go well.

Yes Mahindra advertises five year warranties and such but they are terrible at what they reimburse their dealers for under warranty. So getting warranty from a different dealership than the one you bought from is tough.

If your the kind of guy that is not going to use a tractor a lot of hours each year and not really heavy duty then a Mahindra Might work.

As for your friend. I think he will find out that his budget will not stand much of a new tractor. I would not like having to use a Ford 851 for much either. Things like Power steering and diesel engines are nice. He would be better off buying a newer model of Ford or MF but not real new. A Ford 3600 or 5600 are fine tractors. MF 240 is about that size and they made them for almost 20 years. Any of these would have the features he would get with a "new" Mahindra but would be cheaper and more durable.

old · Aug 8, 2018

The 851 he got has power steering and a loader but his problem is he does not know tractors and he does not ask for help he jumps in feet first then asks for help. I helped him get this 851 running and to get it to start as it should I had to hot wire it and then and only then will it turn over like it should and run. But then the radiator had a JB weld patch that popped. Plus has a leak just under the steering wheel which again is not uncommon on an old ford. I do not think he understands how a person like me can make them work well for years but again I have been messing with them for longer then he has been alive. He is 25 by the way and seems to think going new or close is the way to go but yet he sees me with machine as old or older then I am and they just keep on keeping one

Bob · Aug 8, 2018

old, you must be josh'in us here with this post!

With you posts here, usually you are a wise and practical man.

But I'm not so sure anymore, a wise and practical man would have realized this is a situation where any advice you give him can and will be used against you when his clueless self mucks up his new tractor!

But you already know that, so you're gonna stand clear of giving him any advice on the matter, RIGHT? ;-)

You can thank me later!

Moonlite37 · Aug 9, 2018

A few weeks ago a widow asked me the same question and I told her that I am very happy with my Kioti. She followed my advice but she bought the Kioti rotary cutter after I told her that I like my Woods. She is pleased and I am pleased.

Philip d · Aug 9, 2018

Like JD said he best be careful with Mahindra for the reasons he stated. I remember in the 80's there were quite a few Belarus' being sold around here and quite a few of them ended up getting parked behind the barn because of lack of service and parts availability.

Traditional Farmer · Aug 9, 2018

Kubota would be good fit for him especially the $0 down $0 interest.

showcrop · Aug 9, 2018

Tell him that Kubotas are the cheapest to own because resale value is so high. You could steer him to Tractor House to get some idea of values, but tell him to multiply the prices there by .75 in order to get realistic pricing.

Texasmark1 · Aug 9, 2018

I never had a Kaboda nor Oliver, Cockshutt, MM. Had the rest that most folks talk about. I bought a Korean built Branson 6530C fully decked out,new in 2007 and it was a good purchase that I still use daily.....when we have rain to grow things that is. It has a lot of cast iron and Cummins engine (B3.3 NA, 65 hp. 4 cylinder, naturally aspired). Dealers aren't that numerous but I have access to good parts supplies with quick deliveries and courteous, let me help you, service. Price wasn't cheap but wasn't sky high either. Might want to include that brand in your search of popular colors of which I have 3 Fords (not NH) and another small Branson. I recently added the Ford 3910 to my corral as I like that combination of power, utility, and size.

If you are a dealer hugger then surely you want one close by to do your work for you. If not, matters not where they are; internet and UPS and parts are on your doorstep as fast as you are willing to pay the freight (overnight) bill.

Another reason I bought the Branson is that the popular dealer in the area had it's shop and incoming yard full, and will get to you when we can attitude. I thought, what good is a big dealer with big shop and all if you can't get in and out.......if you actually need repairs, warranty or later on? The Branson dealer was smaller but his shop had one 35ish hp tractor that was in for warranty repair.

ss55 · Aug 9, 2018

It sounds like you have already given him your best advice. Back away and let him work it out for himself, unless you want to take ownership of his problem. Everyone learns the most from their own mistakes. Does he have a repair manual for the 851, or another place to get it repaired besides yourself?

Geo-TH,In · Aug 9, 2018

Friend bought a new 55 hp YTM a year ago. He now realizes it was a big mistake buying the cheapest.

Look for a local dealer with a good reputation for service. My Friend's dealer is 35 miles away and dealer promised good service, but never delivers on promise.

Another thing to think about. What is he going to do when tractor doesn't run? How is he going to get it to the dealer or will the dealer come out and pick it up.

Dealer is the key. I would like to buy some cars but won't travel 80 miles to dealer to get them serviced. So for me, it's a no brainer what models of cars I will buy.

LOCATION OF DEALER, LOCATION OF DEALER AND LOCATION OF DEALER.

RobCons · Aug 9, 2018

If buying new dealer support is the way to go. We have established Mahindra, Kubota, and JD dealers close by. Couple of friends have Mahindra units and they have been very good. No problems after 5-6 years. Kubota has good financing right now. Cant argue their quality. I think he should shop for the best deal he can get.

mudcreek183 · Aug 9, 2018

I have 2 Mahindra's they are very well built tractors as the others said a good dealer is the most important thing in buying a tractor what ever brand it might be.Most of the new Mahindras under 70 HP don't need DEF or have to go through a re gen.

Leroy · Aug 9, 2018

I have never heard of a Mahindra dealer around me and I would like to have that Ford, the ones you want I would only haul to scrap yard. I want no diesel ever. Drove too many of the stinking things.

Dean · Aug 9, 2018

Kubota. No question.

Kioti might be a distant second but only if a good, well-established dealer is nearby.

Dean

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 9, 2018

Kubota would be my first choice also, the Ford units like it of the 70's were great machines too, we sold a lot of them still running today,, no clue how the current versions are,, same way with JD, I put a lot of hours on a small JD at a place where I worked at, it was a great little unit also,, my uncle who owns the farm I live/ rent/ operate,, bought a new 42hp Kubota about 8 years ago,, just coming up on 500 hrs now,, other than fluid changes and one new battery I have done nothing to it, only real complaint I have about it is the amount of fuel it burns but I am betting all of them today are the same there,, no more than its ran that is a mute point but again its my only complaint,
cnt

Part Time Pete · Aug 9, 2018

We've had great luck with our Kubota, but Mahindra dealers are popping up all over. I've noticed though that a lot of them don't have much in the way of a shop and parts
Pete

Dean · Aug 9, 2018

I bought my first Kubota new in 1993, a small B1750HSD with Bi-Speed Turn (wish that was still offered).

It's now over 25 years old and I have done nothing to it aside from routine lube, oil, filters, etc. Absolutely nothing. It get good maintenance, is kept inside, and is not abused. Still 25+ years with no problems is impressive.

I now own 5 Kubotas.

Dean

SVcummins · Aug 9, 2018

I?ll say John Deere because I?m a John Deere guy . But as far as new tractors no i will never buy one a 100 horsepower tractor is not a farm tractor anymore it?s a big lawnmower chore tractor and is not built the same as an older tractor no matter what brand take an John Deere or a case or a ford or IH from the sixties to the eighties and they were built to farm with

MSS3020 · Aug 9, 2018

My dad has a 99 massey.. It has been a excellent tractor.. Ive heard many good about kubota..I think Id look into the new Massey Fergs.. Also have dealer close by.. cheaper then Green unfortunately..

chuck2015 · Aug 9, 2018

(quoted from post at 21:09:51 08/08/18) So young neighbor is trying to sell his new to him Ford 851. He thinks he needs a new or close to new tractor instead of an old one. So if you where to recommended a new or new tractor what brand would to say to go with. He is thinking Mahindra but I'm not so sure about that one. I told him Kubota but he sounds like he thinks there to costly. So what say you guys??

Nothing worse that a brand new tractor that no one will support or fix. Takes the advantage out of the lower price. Which ends up being the better value in the long run? a tractor that is broke during haying season or one that will run day in/day out? JMHO

Traditional Farmer · Aug 9, 2018

Know what you mean.I get these bush hogging jobs in fields that haven't been cut in 2 or 3 years grown up with young Cedars,Oaks,Hickory,Autumn Oliver etc that I cut with a 10ft Sidewinder
cutter hooked to either my Allis Chalmers D19 or Oliver 1465.I'd love to see one of these 70 HP new tractors cut with me for awhile with the same size cutter, their plastic grills,
fiber fuel tanks under the steps and filters and hoses on the bottom of the tractors.They'd be slam beat to pieces in short while.

oldtanker · Aug 9, 2018

(quoted from post at 07:56:17 08/09/18) I?ll say John Deere because I?m a John Deere guy . But as far as new tractors no i will never buy one a 100 horsepower tractor is not a farm tractor anymore it?s a big lawnmower chore tractor and is not built the same as an older tractor no matter what brand take an John Deere or a case or a ford or IH from the sixties to the eighties and they were built to farm with

That's cause the average farm that buys NEW tractors use 150 plus HP tractors as chore tractors. They build em to meet the needs of the folks who buy them NEW! So us, as a whole, on "Yesterdays" tractors actually working them? They could care less what we would like to see. They won;t care until we get rid of the old stuff we use and start buying new. Kinda like the the guy who complains about not being able to buy a bare bones, vinyl seat, rubber floor, manual transmission mat truck new while bragging about making the old one last 30 years. Had he traded ever 5 years like the average new truck buyer he'd get what he wants. Now he's stuck with what a 28 year old woman wants (Don't know about today but a few short years ago the average over 50% of new sales truck buyer was a college educated woman between the ages of 28 and 35)!

Rick

SVcummins · Aug 9, 2018

Yes they would be dead trying to do real tractor work

SVcummins · Aug 9, 2018

You don?t happen to have any phone numbers for
one of those average truck buyers have ya ?
Sounds like my kinda gal

old · Aug 9, 2018

All I am trying to do is to be a good neighbor and other then that it is his choice and he will have to live with it. Sort of like his Ford diesel which he seems to keep having problems with. He told me last night he had to replace some AC components and the radiator and he has seem to be doing work on t about every week but he does also drive 50 plus miles a day

Dean · Aug 9, 2018

Could be but the real money is in the yuppie tractor market.

Kubota knows this and has addressed this market much better than anyone else. Knowing that the yuppies do not want problems, they have engineered out initial defects, much like Toyota did in the automotive market decades ago.

Consequently, they are making tons of money and growing rapidly.

Bought a new AC, IHC, Case, Oliver, the list goes on, lately?

Dean

Dean · Aug 9, 2018

I bought a new MF in 2007 and another in 2013 (my fault).

I had VERY, VERY bad experiences with both MF/AGCO and their dealers regarding both.

Never again.

Dean

Traditional Farmer · Aug 9, 2018

No argument from me that junk is what sells these days,look at all the Harbor Freight Stores around,but I can take one of those tractors you listed and make it like new for 25-30% of what a new comparable HP tractor would cost.

David G · Aug 9, 2018

You make me laugh, most of the time.

showcrop · Aug 9, 2018

With a Kubota, the dealer is only a very minor concern. The likelihood of needing a repair is so small that it is inconsequential. Then when you do need a part it is so much easier to order on line. Just plain fact.

Destroked 450 · Aug 9, 2018

I would only wish a new tractor on someone I didn't like.
2013 and older I'd go with a Kubota.
96 back to the late 60's it would be buyers choice, AC, Case, Ford, IH, JD, ect. Lots of good dependable tractors made in that era and a few not so good.

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