Tubeless tires on Implement rims

Hay hay hay · Aug 6, 2018

This was a surprise. I took 2 good 15" Tires in to be mounted on old 15" 6 bolt wagon rims. I told them to put in new valve stems and mount them tubeless. When I came back the tires were on the rims, but not inflated. They told me the rims would not hold tubeless tires and I would have to install tubes...but they don't sell tubes.????

I have talked to an implement dealer that sells both tires and implement rims and several life long farmers that have never had this problem....what gives???? Any solution?

VicS · Aug 6, 2018

Did you take them to another place and try to air them up. Rims probably have large valve stem hole, and they didn't have any large ones.

riveroadrat · Aug 6, 2018

I put tubes in everything. I got tired of going to an implement and having to fix a flat that lost air by seeping around the edge of the rim while sitting.

johnyquest69 · Aug 6, 2018

My friend tries to avoid tubed tires...says he can buy a new rim for the price of 2 tubes! Adamant about trying to reduce tubes.

Bob · Aug 6, 2018

(quoted from post at 19:50:22 08/06/18) This was a surprise. I took 2 good 15" Tires in to be mounted on old 15" 6 bolt wagon rims. I told them to put in new valve stems and mount them tubeless. When I came back the tires were on the rims, but not inflated. They told me the rims would not hold tubeless tires and I would have to install tubes...but they don't sell tubes.????

I have talked to an implement dealer that sells both tires and implement rims and several life long farmers that have never had this problem....what gives???? Any solution?

Are the rims old enough that the "centers" are riveted in place, rather than welded?

That's the only legit reason I can think of that would prevent putting tires without a tube on 'em, 'cause the rivets likely would leak some air.

hd6gtom · Aug 6, 2018

I owned a tire dealership for over 22 years. The old style rims are made just a little different. Some will not "hold" a tubeless tire. Most will especially is you use a good bead sealer. Put a couple of tubes in them and be done with it.

docmirror · Aug 6, 2018

Put some air in, and toss em in a dunk tank, find out what's going on.

some old rims don't have the smooth enough sealing bead flange after too long.

ericlb · Aug 7, 2018

if the rims are good they will hold air if they are solid rims, not rivited, one old trick ive used, is if the bead sealing area is pitted, it will leak there,while the tire is off, take some chassis grease and spread a thin coat around the rim on both sealing areas, when the tire is inflated, the grease takes up the pits, [ and squeezes out so have a rag handy] and the rim will hold

Hay hay hay · Aug 7, 2018

Solid rims (not riveted) apparently newer rims have a tiny ridge that seals the tire. Not noticable until you look closely.

Texasmark1 · Aug 8, 2018

Go to ebay and browse their small tires.....I don't remember the exact verbiage to describe the wheel type. They make note of a wheel type with an added flange for extra sealing and when looking closely you will see that the lip on the rim curves up and once the tire is mounted it protrudes above the line of the tire.

On tires such as you say, I have/have had older JD equipment implement rims in 9 and 11 widths that readily accepted tubeless tires. Recalling a 4010 and 4020 fronts in that size and currently a '91 JD baler. On Fords I have tubeless on the front of '88 in 600x15.

Did the dealer try to air them up? Air pressure goes a long way in the ability to make that work, especially on drive tires. Non drive tires not so much.

"Nothing ventured, nothing gained".....source unknown!

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