John Deere question

Charlie M · Jul 31, 2018

I had a guy tell me this morning John Deere sales are down due to a spat over ownership of the computers in their new tractors. Any truth to that story? Not familiar with the modern stuff - never had a computer issue with my 43 M.LOL

DoubleO7 · Jul 31, 2018

I would hope there is a downturn in sales because they are being azzhats about the software.

coshoo · Jul 31, 2018

Apparently JD is saying that buyers are only "licensees" who are allowed unlimited use of the machine, but since its still "owned" by JD, the farmer has to call JD for repairs and can't fix it himself. Some tech-savvy guys are "hacking" their own machines to they can diagnose and repair them. One guy pointed to his combine and said "It costs me a thousand bucks every time that thing is put on a trailer and taken in for repairs, plus I can't afford to be down for several days during harvest".

tim s · Jul 31, 2018

The Mega Dealer around here is feeling the squeeze of low crop prices,,and the high tech equipment is less dependable and computer issue is also a factor... I am getting more 40-50-60 series tractors in here for engine/air conditioner/transmission upgrades to keep them on the work force....

steve19438 · Jul 31, 2018

if you google john deere software infringement you can read all day about the software issue.

bg/mo · Jul 31, 2018

and how many cars have to go to the dealer for certain repairs????? or computer stuff??

W_B · Jul 31, 2018

Cars are being hacked and reprogrammed every day. There are even replacement programmable ECUs available for lots of engines.

4play · Aug 1, 2018

most vehicles or auto manufacturers have similar software or restrictions. I'm sure since there are thousands and millions more automobiles on the road, aftermarket companies have reverse engineered the software and came up with equipement to work around the restrictions.

There is obviously not going to be as much demand to hack John Deere software, people have already done it and it will become more popular. The problem with this stuff is, what happens when they go obsolete and lose dealer support. This tractor is totally useless now because some sensor/module is faulty and can't be replaced.

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