Repacing tractor tires - a new method to me.

SARG · Jun 12, 2018

Mentioned to a co-worker today I had just ordered a set of 8 ply industrial tires ( think R4s for a skiploader) for my small 4wd T1030 New Holand to replace the original R4s that are 4 ply. ( 18x8.50 by 8" wheel )
I mentioned it would probably turn into a comical wrestling match.
His response was he used to do tractor tires for a living and it should be a "piece of cake". The part that made me scratch my head was he told me they always changed the tires while the wheel was bolted onto the tractor....both large and small.
A concept I'm going to have to think about.

Mike Groom · Jun 12, 2018

Most of the tractor tires I've seen installed on my tractors or any of the farmers around me are done on the tractor,it's fast and they make it look easy.

Bill in IL · Jun 12, 2018

I dont know how one could wrestle a tractor tire off
without the rim being fixed in place.

I bought a set of tires on rims one time an torched
the bead to get the tire off the rim.

rrlund · Jun 12, 2018

I don't know why you'd take the rims off the tractor. I even change 20 and 22.5 tires on the manure spreader with the wheels left on.

hd6gtom · Jun 12, 2018

I did that for 22+ years. He's right it is far easier to do with the rim bolted to the tractor. Take your
duckbilled tire hammer, break down the outside bead, pull it off the rim, that will give you an extra inch or
two to break down the inner bead. Pop it off, pull the tube, pry inner bead off. Don't mess with dish soap
for lube, it isn't near slick enough. Bowes Big Blue is the best. Napa has a decent lube too. Simple, no
messing with trying to get the rim back on straight. And you don't have to lift the heavy old rim.

dlbuck · Jun 12, 2018

My Dad put new rear tires on a 1938 John Deere G with the wheels still on the tractor. He didn't tell me he was going to do this
job by himself, I would have gladly helped him do it because he was EIGHTY years old at the time.

Adirondack case guy · Jun 12, 2018

I agree with your co-worker a 110% I never take wheels off a tractor to change them. When wheels are on tractor they are solid and not sliding around on the ground, and you can use the leverage you need to pry the tire off. I use a slide hammer bead breaker or a bead hammer to break the bead, depending on tire size. Simple and easy, both on and off, unless you have a tire machine for drop center 14-16" wagon and tractor front wheels.
Loren

Dean · Jun 12, 2018

All pros change tractor tires with the rims on the tractor.

Dean

marloweg · Jun 12, 2018

gravity is your friend

JDIH · Jun 12, 2018

I agree with everybody's responses IF they were large rear tractor tires. For small ones like these, just pop them off and do them on a machine

SARG · Jun 13, 2018

Strange .... I never knew they were done while the wheel is mounted. Also strange is the hundreds of YouTube videos on changing out tractor tires only show a couple instances of installing while the rim is on the machine and they are only the large rear tires.
Live and learn.

W_B · Jun 13, 2018

Back in the late 60's when we had new tires put on tractors they guy showed up in his service truck and changed them right on the tractor. Seemed to be no problem for him.

john in la · Jun 13, 2018

All the pros change large tire with the rim mounted so it does not move around.

Changing or repairing a outside tire in a duel setup they do not even use a jack.
Just drive the inside tire up on a block of wood and work on the outside tire.

jddrawbar · Jun 13, 2018

I know the pros sure make it look easy.....never been easy for me, on or off the tractor.

Traditional Farmer · Jun 13, 2018

Well I wouldn't place a whole lot of faith in U Tube videos some are way out there,worst one I think I've seen is the guy baiting the coyote trap.BTW every professional tire changer I know changes them on the tractor.

2x4 · Jun 15, 2018

very common practice with road tractors. New to me when I watched a friend do it on his Freightliner. I never thought about it being done that way.

BarnyardEngineering · Jun 15, 2018

If you've ever tried to wrestle anything with a rim bigger than 16", having it anchored down makes the job so much less frustrating.

What better place to anchor than the tractor? You've got tons of bulk to work against, the tire is nice and vertical, and it can be rotated to get the best angle.

The worst times I've had working on tires is when the big rear tractor tire isn't on the tractor, and there isn't a tractor to mount it to. I was harvesting the rear tires off a set of Ford wheels, but I didn't have a Ford tractor to mount them on. Tried to do them flat on the ground. Man what a struggle. Only easy part about that job was popping the beads because we just pushed them off with the loader.

ptfarmer · Jun 15, 2018

Much easier with the wheel on the tractor, pretty hard to move a tractor around when you are prying a tire off, of on.

Replacing a rear tractor tire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TbPJvtfY6k

ptfarmer · Jun 15, 2018

Much easier with the wheel on the tractor, pretty hard to move a tractor around when you are prying a tire off, of on.

Replacing a rear tractor tire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TbPJvtfY6k

SARG · Jun 16, 2018

Well... just a status update. Got one of the 4 ply originals off. Did the front bead of the tractor and the inside bead with the wheel mounted.
I started to attempt the mounting of the 8 ply and really hit a wall. There is nil to none give in the 8 ply tires. I see a trip to my local tire shop in the future and if the 8 inch wheel can't be put on a machine ...I have no idea how they could force the tire on.

SARG · Jun 16, 2018

BTW ... How many years now has the "Editing has been temporarily disabled" been in effect?

L.Fure · Jun 16, 2018

(quoted from post at 13:11:26 06/16/18) Well... just a status update. Got one of the 4 ply originals off. Did the front bead of the tractor and the inside bead with the wheel mounted.
I started to attempt the mounting of the 8 ply and really hit a wall. There is nil to none give in the 8 ply tires. I see a trip to my local tire shop in the future and if the 8 inch wheel can't be put on a machine ...I have no idea how they could force the tire on.

You need to eat your Wheaties before working a 8 ply tire on a rim. Use lots of tire lube and really long tire bars for extra leverage. Taking the tire and rim to town is probably the best way. BTW, most tire shops will mount a tire that size for free if you buy it from them. :wink:

SARG · Jun 16, 2018

Here's the Final .... Just got back from our local tire dealer and the 8" wheels fit on the machines. One of the young warriors there literally "pushed" the first side over the rim.... and then they used the machines to stretch the second side on. Less than 15 minutes and they were done with both. Amazing when they know what they're doing.
I went to pay & the owner said "Give me $5." I gave him $10. and felt bad a mile down the road I didn't give him $20.
I'd be struggling all weekend.

SARG · Jun 20, 2018

I took two dozen donuts to the lads Tuesday morning.

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