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john in la

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A few days ago someone ask if there was still discrimination in the United States.
Well today the Louisiana legislators voted to allow the public to vote this November to remove a Jim Crow law from our books that was made law in 1880 during reconstruction.

This law allows a guilty verdict with only 10 of the 12 people on a jury voting guilty.
It also allows a not guilty vote with 10 of the 12.
It applies to all criminal cases except capitol cases like murder.

The law was put into force to make it easier to convict blacks and free whites.
One other state has this law. Oregon.
They were talking about it on the news today and said Portland got the law in Oregon to try and keep blacks out.

So yes there is still discrimination in the deep south.
Even in our courts.
 
I never could see how they could expect 12 people to agree or disagree on a verdict. All it would take is one person to cause a mistrial where they have to start over.
 
I had to serve jury duty about 3 months ago in Gulfport ms, Harrison county, it was an insurance case being awarded money, there were 8 jurors in total,, we were instructed by the Judge that we only had to have 7 votes for the person to get the awarded money
 
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Serious felony trials in Louisiana, including some murder cases, can be resolved when 10 out of 12 jurors agree on a person's guilt. Even Oregon, the only other state to allow split verdicts in felony cases, requires a unanimous verdict in murder cases. Morrell says the non-unanimous jury policy was instituted in order to minimize the voice of African-American jurors.
Louisiana Takes Aim at Jim Crow Era Jury Law
 
(quoted from post at 20:10:34 05/15/18) A few days ago someone ask if there was still discrimination in the United States.
Well today the Louisiana legislators voted to allow the public to vote this November to remove a Jim Crow law from our books that was made law in 1880 during reconstruction.

This law allows a guilty verdict with only 10 of the 12 people on a jury voting guilty.
It also allows a not guilty vote with 10 of the 12.
It applies to all criminal cases except capitol cases like murder.

The law was put into force to make it easier to convict blacks and free whites.
One other state has this law. Oregon.
They were talking about it on the news today and said Portland got the law in Oregon to try and keep blacks out.

So yes there is still discrimination in the deep south.
Even in our courts.
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I guess i dont understand how a law written in 1880 for a very specific reason equates to discrimination today? It is going up to the majority of the people to vote on whether or not to retain the law, the result of that vote i would think would be where you could define discrimination. its no secret the way people were treated 100 years, 50 years ago, etc etc, but supposedly people have evolved and become ultra woke, so to me it seems like more of a sign that people are getting that kind of stuff off the books.

just asking i guess...
 
Back when that law was enacted I suspect there were very few black jurors, maybe one or two out of the twelve if any. This law would let the whites get their way in a case involving a black.
 
Deserved or not Louisiana has always had the reputation of being one of the most corrupt states,guess some of that comes from the Huey Long days and the Angola Prison.
 
I see a lot of people commenting on here that no nothing about Louisiana or the problems we have been facing for decades. Go ahead. Feel free to bash us. But until you live here and see what we see and put up with we put up with, maybe you should just be happy that you live in paradise and not with all of us racist rednecks down her in Louisiana.
 
(quoted from post at 23:08:55 05/15/18) Thanks for posting, I had not heard of such a thing. There is discrimination all over the US, and it's getting worse!
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Not sure how it's worse - we still allow liberals to vomit out propaganda.

As to the non-unanimous jury, that is not unique to your state. There are others with the same rule. In civil trials it is rare to require a unamimous verdict but you are correct that generally it is required in criminal cases in most states. There is nothing discriminatory about it though.
 

Just another professionally offended person trying to find something to b1tch . Then expect attention, sypathy and compensation.
Just like the statues they have been fine since the 1800’s and through 16 years of Clints and Obamy . Now there are some angry pouters having temper tantrums after they lost .
Grow up. You didn’t see R e p I b l I c a n s blocking highways , rioting, looting, assaulting committing arson, ranting in the media, performing witch hunts or tearing down statues . After Demoncrats won.
 

While the intend back then to have been racial, today with the higher "minority" population now being on Jury duty, it would have the opposite effect... of letting a mostly black jury prevail? Of course it would be based on the demographics of each area.

Or so it would seem. I have no dog in the hunt, but it would seem to work opposite today. I happen to live in an area where white people are the minority and have no problems with it.


In serving on Jury duty, there always seems to be one or two people who are holdouts from the rest of the jury. In my experience, based on emotions and not the facts. Has nothing to do with color.
 
That's right, in some geographical areas what used to be the MAJORITY are now a MINORITY. I wonder if they then have any sort of "minority" status??? The most ridiculous term I hear the big shot newscasters use is that a certain area or block is now Majority Minority LOL I as a Caucasian Christian Conservative Male married to a Female find myself discriminated against and offended but that's different and politically correct I guess lol

God Bless yall and the USA

John T
 
As a fellow lifelong Louisiana resident I thank the Good Lord that the Donkey party politicians who invented and enforced Jim Crow are long out of power and the nnalert who now have had control of both houses of the Louisiana legislature
have been successful in reversing a large majority of the dimwitocrats racist policies, just like DJT is doing in DC.
 
Morrell saying it is so does not make it so. He wasn't alive when the law was written. Racism is the refuge of people with no legitimate argument these days. Disagreement with a previous administration and you MUST be a racist.
We have racism, we will always have some racism. Fear of things and especially people who are different looking, have different habits, like different music is part of being human. Natural fear is a survival instinct. It has been around for six thousand years and will be part of us until Jesus returns.
 
You don't have to go that far back in Louisiana history to find our miscreants. We had a governor in prison, and three consecutive Commissioners of Insurance in jail. We had a Congressman who kept his bribe money in his freezer.
 
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