spare parts for humans

wilson ind · Apr 28, 2018

Two very recent events inspired this post. Two days ago a 50 year local man died in hospital after a collision with a cow while riding his motorcycle. He did live to die in hospital a few hours later. Many other people will most likely have a new life from his harvested organs. Very sad, however how many of us honest salt of the earth rural folks have organ doner on out drivers license?? something we all should do in my opinion. Now on to a more personal note for all of us here on yesterdays tractors. Tom Railsback of Great Falls Montana does not know I am posting this. He needs a kidney. I only have one kidney my self, there fore an not a candidate or I would be first in line to get tested. I can vouch to any one a good kidney is ok as I have only had one for 18 years and I can whizz with the best of us. How about it guys. Anybody want to contact Tom who goes by Tube Case on case forum. He has been put on a waiting list for Denver and Seattle Wa. Those general list can be years long, however a donor kidney can be done much sooner. As I stated Tom did not ask me to post this request.

JF in MI · Apr 28, 2018

My wife and I used to have 'organ donor' on our license. Almost all of her many female relatives are in the medical profession. They told us that if you are admitted into the hospital, in a life threatening condition, with a donor ID they usually don't 'work as hard' to save your life, or so they tell me.

Fawteen · Apr 28, 2018

I've had the donor box/sticker on my license for years.

1. I don't believe for a second that being a donor affects your level of care, and;

2. I've been around for 67, almost 68 years now, and if I'm that stove up, I'd just as soon be some use as be plugged into machines for the rest of my life.

rrlund · Apr 28, 2018

I just heard a story about transplants this morning on the radio. They said your chance of getting one differs greatly depending on where you are. They said the chance varies from a 15% chance to an 85% chance. Interestingly,they said you have less of a chance in California and New York. You'd kind of think it would be the other way around. They were saying that people with the means and ability to move were doing it to improve their chances of getting one.

wisbaker · Apr 28, 2018

I stopped being a donor when our neighbor lady lost her house over her husband being an organ donor. He ended up in the hospital and died, the hospital decided it needed to collect the money for the care of his body and harvesting his organs, medical insurance stopped paying the minute he died and the state law didn't allow the donor or the donor's insurance to be billed (considered that selling of human organs) the bills came due and she lost her house, they later admitted they were wrong and the law got changed, meanwhile losing her husband and her house was a little to much for her and she slipped into depression and passed herself (I suspect she may of killed herself).

Tx Jim · Apr 28, 2018

(quoted from post at 13:30:05 04/28/18) the bills came due and she lost her house, they later admitted they were wrong and the law got changed, meanwhile losing her husband and her house was a little to much for her and she slipped into depression and passed herself (I suspect she may of killed herself).

I understand how the Federal & county governments can foreclose on a home for unpaid taxes. Please explain how this lady lost her home due to hosp bills especially if it was homesteaded?

JF in MI · Apr 28, 2018

#1; I would hope to God that you are right but if one (you) is wrong it's not the type of thing where you can chalk it up to "lesson learned" and then go on with life. It's "Game Over".
#2; I'm also 67 but I've heard there are a lot of folks out there somewhat younger than me.

Brian Dan · Apr 28, 2018

Well seven week ago my wife had a major heart attack. She spent one month in a hospital. Three weeks of that time she was in ICU.
She has had serious damage to her heart that can't be repaired. Her only option now is for a heart transplant. She is on a waiting list to become a recipient of a gift of life.
It's unfortunate That some ones life has ended but in a way they still live on in a different way. If those organs are not used by some one else they will just be buried.
I have found our a lot about being a organ donor since this has happened to my wife. One thing is you are never too old to be a donor.
A recipient can be 75 of age or more. Must not be a illegal drug user, should be in good health except for the ailment and a good will to live.
A organ will never be used from a illegal drug user.
I think there more to the story about some one losing there home because their loved one was a donor.
Brian

john in la · Apr 28, 2018

Removal of organs are paid by the recipient.
From organdonor dot gov

With that said I do not believe in organ donation.
You live your life with the body God gave you and except death when it comes.
Plenty of people sitting in nursing homes pooping their pants and staring into space that would have been dead long ago if it were not for modern medicine.

Sorry if I offended anyone with that statement but it is what I believe in.

Goose · Apr 28, 2018

Organ donation is a complicated issue, more complicated than is generally known. I understand International law prohibits any charges be made, or money passing hands, for the organ itself, only for charges for the logistics involved.

That being said, I had a class in college on Economics of the Health Care Industry, and during the course of the class I wrote a paper on "Ethics of the Medical Profession". During my research, I found documentation of a clique of doctors in Thailand who were pulling the plug early on terminal cases so they could harvest the organs and sell them on an International black market. They all are now getting striped suntans from looking through out bars.

It seems, as someone else said, that being a successful donee depends on your being able to position yourself in the right place at the right time.

Interestingly, while doing research for the above paper, I found a case where a lady doctor in Kansas City, Kansas had a clinic where she dealt with low income patients. She had joined the Army Reserves because military service was a tradition in her family, never dreaming her unit would ever be activated. Along came Operation Desert Storm, and, yep, her unit was activated. She then faced the decision of abandoning her patients, or deserting from the Army Reserves. She chose to desert. The Army frowned on it, to be mild. The Army charged her with desertion and the Kansas medical authorities pulled her license to practice medicine. The case was still ongoing when I wrote the paper and I never did hear the outcome. But, I'm sure the lady paid dearly for making the wrong choice.

guido · Apr 28, 2018

Hello Wilson ind,

I know someone that was a liver recipient and doing well. Got it last November in mount Sinai Hospital in New York City. Doing real well! Hope your buddy Tom gets his kidney transplant, Hemodiaslysis its just plain hard on the body,

Guido.

tim s · Apr 28, 2018

It happens more times than you can imagine Jim,,the Hospital and the nursing home can and will take every thing you have..

Bob Bancroft · Apr 28, 2018

My drivers license just renewed. After all this time, someone finally paid attention and changed some information left over from my 16 year old permit days. They also managed to get "organ donor" printed on it. 8 years ago, the last time my license renewed, I had marked "organ donor" on the renewal. Brainiacs at DMV didn't give that any attention.

Bob Bancroft · Apr 28, 2018

On another vein, should the materials in my new hip joint be recycled upon my demise? Might be some expensive metal in there. If my body is cremated as desired, a hunk of metal could complicate handling a few ashes!

Crazy Horse · Apr 28, 2018

John ..... that's OK for you, if you want to pass on receiving an organ donation then that's fine. Would you donate an organ though?

I hope you wouldn't deny a family member or friend an organ donation should they need it if you had a choice in the matter. Some individuals have denied their kids blood transfusions, I remember many situations in the news years ago with those kinds of situations, I don't think I've heard of that for some time now.

in-too-deep · Apr 28, 2018

I heard the preview to that but didnt catch the story.

john in la · Apr 28, 2018

Crazy Horse

I find this a hard subject to talk about because many on here are of a age where they are needing major medical attention.
I really do not want to offend or upset anyone during their troubled times.

But if I could donate a organ to a 25 year old it would be a hard choice.
Especially if it were a family member or one of my kids.

I guess to put it into a nut shell I do not believe in modern medicine.
I have seen to many people that have spent money they do not have just so they can extend their life and be in a nursing home.

Medical insurance prices are out of sight.
WHY..... Because everyone wants what ever modern medicine can provide no matter what the cost.

Old John in Ohio · Apr 28, 2018

JF: At the hospitals that I have worked at, being an organ donor did NOT affect the level of care you received. We went all out for everyone (life is precious - a statement not in agreement with many countries, ie: China).

Regarding the fellow needing a kidney: It would be better (for him) if the kidney donor was an exact match. Not just blood type, but also the six tissue "types" too. That's why its so hard to find a match. By the way, if your kidneys are healthy, then you only need one to live a normal life.

I've signed up (30+yrs ago) to be a bone marrow donor too. It's a nationwide computer registry (list). I assume that if I ever match anyone needing my bone marrow, that they will call me. Minimal discomfort to donate. You leave the hospital after donating your marrow, the same day. Contact your nearest tertiary (large) Hematology-Oncology (Cancer) Hospital for details on how to get registered and on the list.

rrlund · Apr 28, 2018

This whole idea that a hospital "has to treat you" is BS. They do,but it isn't free. They'll hound you for the rest of your life if you still have a balance due after they sue you for everything you have.

fixerupper · Apr 28, 2018

Somewhere in this world a person who was blind can now see because that person now has my late daughter's corneas.

AlinArk · Apr 28, 2018

John i'm with you, i will gladly donate my organs when the doctors and hospitals donate their services

there is too much money at obscene levels being made by doctors and hospitals and they can not guarantee a thing they do.....

AlinArk · Apr 28, 2018

stain less steel or titanium i would imagine they could be made clean and pure again, my son makes them and other body parts.

Raptor44 · Apr 28, 2018

My Neighbor is a funeral director. He has told me that he does not like to do bodies that have been {Harvested}. If you donate your eyes, they take everything they can.. Bones organs skin. Your body is strapped into a tray so that it can be presented in a coffin at the wake. Just saying.

Busflyer · Apr 28, 2018

(quoted from post at 01:00:51 04/29/18) My Neighbor is a funeral director. He has told me that he does not like to do bodies that have been {Harvested}. If you donate your eyes, they take everything they can.. Bones organs skin. Your body is strapped into a tray so that it can be presented in a coffin at the wake. Just saying.

Who cares what a funeral director thinks. Why take them with you? You could be saving someone’s Mother, Father, or child’s life. In this case I could care less how much money the Doctor or hospital makes. Imagine if it was one of your kids who might die if they don’t get an organ

WayneLee · Apr 28, 2018

I agree!

Bob · Apr 28, 2018

(quoted from post at 19:34:38 04/28/18)

(quoted from post at 01:00:51 04/29/18) My Neighbor is a funeral director. He has told me that he does not like to do bodies that have been {Harvested}. If you donate your eyes, they take everything they can.. Bones organs skin. Your body is strapped into a tray so that it can be presented in a coffin at the wake. Just saying.

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Who cares what a funeral director thinks. Why take them with you? You could be saving someone’s Mother, Father, or child’s life. In this case I could care less how much money the Doctor or hospital makes. Imagine if it was one of your kids who might die if they don’t get an organ

I agree. Being honest here, is there a lower scumsucking form of "human" life than a "funeral director"?

Yes, somebody has to do it, but 12 to 18 thousand dollars to pump some formaldehyde in your veins and bury you in a cheaply made steel box?

Simply DISGUSTING!

herald h ia · Apr 28, 2018

I had 2 hips replaced at

I have had 2 hip replacements at Mayo Clinic, Rochester MN. I had to fill out a long questionnaire to qualify for bone bank. They saved the hip bone for 6 months til it neuturlized and then ground it up. My bone was used to fuse a spine in a 50 year old lady from MN.
She wrote a letter of to Mayo, thanking them that she was now pain free.
My bone morrow was also saved to be used in a match.
I had first asked my Dr. if I could take my bone home for my dog. He laughed and he said he had a better plan, and he sure did.

Kansasredneck · Apr 29, 2018

Yolanda Huet-Vaughn is her name. She was convicted and sentenced to 2 1/2 years in Leavenworth for desertion. She did not refuse to go because of her patients, she refused on moral grounds. She had a long record as a peace activist, and used the military to get a free ride to becoming a doctor. If morals were her consideration, maybe helping people oppressed by an invading dictator whose sons had a long reputation for assaulting and slaughtering women would have been a good thing. I knew several people who were in her unit.
Sad to say, she only served eight months of her sentence.

Sprint 6 · Apr 29, 2018

Not true on the organs from illegal drug users. There was an article in last Sunday's local paper that some families affected by the opioid epidemic (caused by the medical industry, btw) were finding solice in the fact their loved ones were organ donors before they OD'd. So it is very possible you could get an organ or tissue from a drug addict. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy, don't it?

ivan in michigan · Apr 29, 2018

We were told Davenport Iowa has the shortest waiting time

ivan in michigan · Apr 29, 2018

They ask you to sign a form saying that you are willing to accept an organ from someone in this class. I think they said chances of anything transferring to you is less than 5 percent.

Tx Jim · Apr 29, 2018

(quoted from post at 23:34:56 04/28/18)

Who cares what a funeral director thinks. Why take them with you? You could be saving someone’s Mother, Father, or child’s life. In this case I could care less how much money the Doctor or hospital makes. Imagine if it was one of your kids who might die if they don’t get an organ

I agree. Being honest here, is there a lower scumsucking form of "human" life than a "funeral director"?

Yes, somebody has to do it, but 12 to 18 thousand dollars to pump some formaldehyde in your veins and bury you in a cheaply made steel box?

Simply DISGUSTING![/quote]

Bob I totally agree with you.

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