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So three months they were eating laundry soap, a month ago they were marching for gun control, now they are sniffing rubbers. Wow! Then again it does explain alot. Maybe thats why the kids in Florida are protesting clear back packs. They won't be able to hide their rubbers.

Sod Buster
 
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Those are all mild compared to the hot coil challenge that?s ramping up as the newest one. You get an electric burner on your stove red hot,
then put your forearm down on it......You can?t fix stupid no matter how you try.
 
I wish I had a more uplifting answer for you but unfortunately all I can say is that when it's finally time for my generation to come in and fill the
shoes of the current people making the world go round, the world is going to come to a screeching halt.
 
It raises the question - is stupid heredity, a learned skill or a disease that can become contagious. Maybe we can asked the government for some money to study the issue. LOL
 
My guess is that IQ test results reflect number of immigrant children , whose first language is not English,
not scoring as well. When people in the western countries don't have kids, more immigration is required to
keep the population growing. Our entire economy is based on continual growth. If we had more kids , and our
kids had more kids, we wouldn't be bring in as many folks from other countries, and I don't think these IQ
scores would look like they do.How well can any of you function in a language other than the language of
your birth ?
 
(quoted from post at 10:15:05 04/05/18) My guess is that IQ test results reflect number of immigrant children , whose first language is not English,
not scoring as well. When people in the western countries don't have kids, more immigration is required to
keep the population growing. Our entire economy is based on continual growth. If we had more kids , and our
kids had more kids, we wouldn't be bring in as many folks from other countries, and I don't think these IQ
scores would look like they do.How well can any of you function in a language other than the language of
your birth ?
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People with higher paying jobs 1) tend to be smarter and 2) are not eligible for welfare and therefore realise the cost of raising a child to 18. Dumber people tend to make less and therefore tend to be on welfare which pays a large chunk or most of child care costs which means they tend to have more. The end result is there are less inteligent kids born every year and more dumb kids. Forgive me for being blunt but its the way I see it.

Sod Buster
 
Oliverkid, when I was in high school in the 60's I watched the news reports showing the drugged drunken long haired hippies and thought to myself, "someday this generation will rule the country. Well, 50 years later here we are with that generation in Washington and everywhere else where there is power over people. 'That' generation which is my generation is now using the words stupid, dumb, idiot to describe the new generation. I think my generation needs to look back to evaluate the way we acted when we were the 'next generation's coming into power.
 
That is an argument that has been played over and over again since the early 70?s, and it still doesn?t hold water. The number of younger
people entering college and university has been steadily increasing, not decreasing so that kills the idea of less intelligent kids. The big
difference when it comes to stupid young people decades ago and now, is the mere fact that social media brings their stupidity to light
worldwide when before it was kept more word of mouth locally. There have been all levels of intelligence in society since the dawn of man,
nothings changed. Older generations aren?t exactly perfect, kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
Agreed. If you want more of something you subsidize it, if you want less of something you tax it. The government's policy for decades has been to reward the lame and lazy for having children while taxing the **** out of those that have the means to provide.


Say you have a family 6 with a husband that makes $120,000 a year. Sounds like he's doing OK but dig into it a bit. That single wager earner with the standard deduction gets to pay $12,228 in taxes. But if you have 6 people all making 20,000 each their COMBINED tax liability is $5844.00. If you have a single wage earner with child that makes $20,000 they get $4,131 dollars in refunds without paying a dime in taxes.
 
Just curious - have you seen the student loan debt being piled up by these kids? The US has the most highly educated wait staff on earth. Education does not make a person smarter.


A full 50% of college graduates can not find work.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/half-of-college-grads-cant-find-full-time-jobs/

Student loan debt increases over the years:

https://studentloans.net/student-loan-debt-statistics/
 
attending college is not a guarantee of intelligence i see it everyday.

most of these highly intelligent misfits are dumber than a box of rocks i know we both do not want to hear that, but for two entirely different reasons.
 
(quoted from post at 11:45:15 04/05/18) attending college is not a guarantee of intelligence i see it everyday.

most of these highly intelligent misfits are dumber than a box of rocks i know we both do not want to hear that, but for two entirely different reasons.
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Beat me to it. A monkey can enroll in colledge if someone fronts the tution. ( okay maybe not quite that bad) Colledge is only as good as the student and the subject studied. When you can get degrees in gender studies or 18th century poetry it doesn't mean much. Also how many students " Major in colledge" that is to say party spend money with no real goal or general idea of what they are there for. With all the student loans, grants. Or "workforce" grants its not that hard.

Sod Buster.

P.S. I'll admit every generation had it idiots. As did mine but never before has generation gotten so "creative" on ways to be stupid and/or cause long term harm to themselves or others.'
 
I agree intelligence shows itself in all forms, not only scholastically but in everyday problem solving as well. It is not something that can be easily judged by looking at a few instances and indiscretions in someone?s life. Today a fool can be licking tidy bowl, ten years down the line they can be a successful business owner with a happy family, I can?t condemn a generation of people because some do stupid things, or pass judgement on their overall intelligence. I can admit if I was a truly intelligent person, I wouldn?t spend money fixing up old tractors that I will never get my money back out of. We all make choices, sometimes they just happen not to be the wisest.
 
(quoted from post at 13:42:34 04/05/18) Just curious - have you seen the student loan debt being piled up by these kids? The US has the most highly educated wait staff on earth. Education does not make a person smarter.

A full 50% of college graduates can not find work.
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Yep, go to college for 4 years, get a job at McDonalds.
 
I toss out some statistics to you, Steve, which I think are relative to your response.

Populations of the various generations: Silent Generation - 28.3 million (ages 72-89)
Baby Boomers - 75.5 million (ages 53-71)
Generation X - 65.7 million (ages 37-52)
Millennials - 79.4 million (ages 19-33)
Generation Z - 73.6 million (ages under 20)

The numbers of students who are enrolled in some sort of post-secondary education as compared to the 1970's probably has increased, since there were a number of people who opted not to go to school after they graduated from high school, and these people were able to get jobs, which were probably decent paying and didn't require further education. As an older Gex-X'er, whose generation currently is the smallest in terms of sheer numbers, I started college in 1985 and graduated in 1989 with my bachelor's degree. That was "THE THING" to do then, as that college degree was our ticket a better paying job and a career. This progression continued on for a number of years, and still remains a common belief. Today, there are a lot of specialized trades with decent pay. The cost of a four year college degree in various fields may not necessarily have the benefits it once had, especially when one looks at the cost of that degree and the debt load of recent graduates. Today, public schools are starting to catch up to the current trends and demands for people, with 2 year degrees from colleges or other certificates from vocational schools providing education and training for vocational careers. My nephew went through an accelerated welding course (1 year) and holds a certificate from that school. Careers in welding are paying exceptionally well, provided one is willing to locate to where the work is................from what I have been privy to. Many of the post secondary schools, previously known as vocational schools, are now considered "technical colleges." I do believe we are likely to see a downturn or flattening in numbers of 4 year college students, as well as an uptick in vocational types of programs. Overall, today's graduates are still likely to attend some post secondary educational program, versus high school graduates from 1, 2, or 3 generations ago. I have no idea as to the numbers of people who are joining the armed forces right out of high school by comparison to prior generations.

It is very likely and a logical conclusion with more college aged kids in the current generations who are college aged, since they are greater in numbers versus my generation. I suspect throughout the country, the term "trade school" and "vocational school" have become a term from the past, and these institutions are probably being referred to more as some sort of "college" rather than their prior name. With respect to today's youth being dumber....................I completed a stint in graduate school a few years ago. The spelling, grammar, and punctuation of the kids who were in their early 20's was horrible. I feel the youth of today are overwhelmed with information, resulting I them probably taking less time to read about current events, research them further, and actually think about these events in the interest of forming an opinion.

Statistically, and from what I do see in the locale where we live, we are having more difficulties with children who are in need of social services, special education, and alternative learning environments. Low income households with children in need of these various services seems to continue to increase. As of right now, just under one-fifth of the students in our public school system have some sort of specialized learning needs with the need for special education teachers and professionals. There are kids with specialized needs due to various types of handicaps. There are growing numbers who are from bad homes with non-traditional parenting situations. There kids who have moderate to severe emotional and behavior disorders, and again, this number seems to increase by each passing year.
 
Don't worry about it. In the next 2 weeks they will all be chasing the next shiny ball that rolls by.
 
I don?t dispute your overall take and statistics except in one instance. When it comes to the rise in children with disabilities and special needs, there is no line between it effecting the different economic classes. My sister is a principal of a school for children with special needs and deals daily with the parents who come from all walks of life, rich, poor, middle class, white, black, Indian, etc. There is no solid evidence as to what has caused the rise in disabilities in children since the early 1980?s, but many theories that have yet to be proven. It afflicts all walks of life equally, not just the poor.
 
The one thing you guys still had going was that despite, all the hippies at least you guys still had plenty of people with good hard trade skills to make the country physically still function. Farmers, engineers, tool and die makers, mechanics, machinists, equipment operators, truckers, all those blue collar jobs that if they didnt happen, nothing would happen. The part Im scared of is that my generation, we dont have any kids going into that line of work, or any type of career that involves REAL work or skilled labor for that matter. The part Im scared of is that once your generation starts leaving the work force there isnt anybody in my generation to replace you. Hang the crooked politicians, those can be lived with, we as a nation have been living with those since almost the beginning. But if we dont even have anybody to turn the wrenches and keep the infrastructure that we NEED to keep the wheels turning, the good ol USA is going to be an a backslide back to the stone ages. God I hope im wrong but with what I saw of my generation while going to college I dont thing that idea is to far fetched. Long stories short, at least your generation had some idea of how to work, mine doesnt have a clue, and that thought right there scares me S!@#less.
 
(quoted from post at 10:01:27 04/05/18) It raises the question - is stupid heredity, a learned skill or a disease that can become contagious. Maybe we can asked the government for some money to study the issue. LOL
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I don't see that stupidity is hereditary..it raise the question of nature vs nurture. its how we apply ourselves in real life that determines where one ends up...but being raised in an environment that accepts the status quo is bad.
 
Perhaps a lot of those disabilities were not identified years ago, and even if they were, schools did not have the train ing or resources to deal with them and those students were simply lumped in to the system, leaving the individual teachers to deal with it as best they could.
Ben
 
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein
 
Actually the opposite happened in Ontario. Regular local schools had the habit of removing children with disabilities/special needs and would stick them into centralized specialty schools where they could get more attention. In the early 90?s, the gov?t found that there was an ever increasing number of special needs children and that it would make more sense to offer education at the local schools rather than shipping them out. The province shut down 90% of the special schools and put the kids back into the mainstream. The outcome has been debated for years, did it help having all the kids together, or did they lose a more specialized education?
 
Look in the mirror. WTF shows stupid in being able to express yourself only using vulgar references to sxx acts.
 
My small rural high school counselor was also our Principal He told me not everyone can be nurses, hair dressers, teachers or coaches. Some one is going to have to pave the roads, throw basement forms, etc. I chose barber college. Viet Nam was hot, I was near draft, so joined the USAF. I was selected for missile b-mat school, I flunked, I asked my 1st Ser. what happens now? He said: they make you a cop, a cook, or a truck driver. I could do all three, no problem! I had eleven jobs prior to retirement: barber, cop, tractor jockey, farm and industrial equipment sales, truck dispatcher, operations mgr. and freight broker. Not a single employer asked for my degree. I grew up below the poverty level; didn't realize it until adulthood. You often make your luck! Have three grown children all with MBA's live blue collar lifestyle and do what I want: farm, put up hay and chase Grandma; no regrets!
 
(quoted from post at 15:45:20 04/05/18) Look in the mirror. WTF shows stupid in being able to express yourself only using vulgar references to sxx acts.
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Becuase name calling is much more inteligent......
 
"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]now they are sniffing rubbers.[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

That's a result of not knowing the purpose . . .

Never mind; don't want to encourage them to propagate.
 
Getting back on topic.....

One of the biggest problems with post secondary education started way back in the 60's. Gotta "find yourself"! Chase your dreams! Yea. Also got a lot of people out there with room temperature IQ's who have been told their whole life they can be whatever they want cause this is America! Yea here are a bunch of folks out there with college degrees that are not worth the paper they are printed on. Lot of em should have had a Mc Donald's application printed on the back side. Cause your degree in the arts or gender studies just isn't going to get you a job.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 08:31:32 04/05/18) So three months they were eating laundry soap, a month ago they were marching for gun control, now they are sniffing rubbers. Wow! Then again it does explain alot. Maybe thats why the kids in Florida are protesting clear back packs. They won't be able to hide their rubbers.

Sod Buster
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How old are you, sodbuster? Guessing you weren't born in 87? You never intentionally did something really stupid when you were a teenager?

It's pretty easy to lump a group of people with what you perceive as having an "undesirable" trait and then write them all off. Pick your "ism".

A tiny, tiny fraction of kids did this stupid challenge. How many? 39 reported in 2016, 53 in 2017. But hey, all kids are dumb, right? Let's not consider the 167 incidents of ELDERLY people with dementia eating them in 2017...?
 
(quoted from post at 17:35:23 04/05/18)
(quoted from post at 08:31:32 04/05/18) So three months they were eating laundry soap, a month ago they were marching for gun control, now they are sniffing rubbers. Wow! Then again it does explain alot. Maybe thats why the kids in Florida are protesting clear back packs. They won't be able to hide their rubbers.

Sod Buster
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How old are you, sodbuster? Guessing you weren't born in 87? You never intentionally did something really stupid when you were a teenager?

It's pretty easy to lump a group of people with what you perceive as having an "undesirable" trait and then write them all off. Pick your "ism".

A tiny, tiny fraction of kids did this stupid challenge. How many? 39 reported in 2016, 53 in 2017. But hey, all kids are dumb, right? Let's not consider the 167 incidents of ELDERLY people with dementia eating them in 2017...?
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I 've done many things I regret in my life. None of which I bragged about on social media of one form or another. And none of the things I regret were done for the sole purpose of self harm, There is some small hope for the millenials . This surfaces from time to time but over all this current generation is in a race to see how stupid they can get.


Sod Buster
 
I had a discussion with our son (retired teacher) a few weeks ago. I said too many college grads look down their nose at the rest of us. His reply was, but you shouldn't look down your nose at a college grad either. I guess he is right.
 
Sorry about my inadvertent error. I agree that physical and mental disabilities affect kids from all walks of life and all households. What I was trying to drive at was the special needs, based upon emotional and behavior disorders, which tend to be more common in low income households with non traditional family structure, and parents with their own problems. My wife works in a special learning center for EBD kids who need to be removed from the public school system. The growth in their enrollment numbers increase each and every year. One can only suspect the various types of abuse and trauma these kids have seen. The income levels are lower. The parents don't seem to care if their kids are there or not. The kids talk about their government checks the parents receive. There are kids who talk about siblings they have at home, and none have the same father. My mother and my sister worked in social services for a number of years, and shared some of their experiences, in general terms only. I do believe we are raising each generation to be dumber than the prior generation, as well as lazier/dependent upon the efforts of others.
 
Agreed, except room temperature IQ would be a serious improvement. Some of them are closer to refrigerator IQ. You are probably familiar with this, but others may not be. http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
 
It would amaze you how quickly the kids learn English and learn it well. Some years back California wanted to start teaching Latino kids in Spanish language schools. The parents objected because they understood that learning English was key to becoming a successful person in the United States. Being born in a foreign place or having parents from a foreign place does not automatically make people stupid.
A huge part of it is the home environment. When parents are involved, kids do better.
One of my teachers years back noted how when he sent out the letters for Parent teacher conferences, the parents of successful kids arrived demanding to know what the problem was so they could apply the board of education to the seat of learning.
Part of our problem today is kids being raised in divided or single parent homes. Mothers are great at giving the love, but short on discipline. Maybe I'm putting that wrong, because if they really loved their kids, those mothers would put them ahead of personal problems and try to hold the family together for the sake of the future generation.
 
When you have a part of society telling these kids that they need to be individuals, and that they achieve individuality through conformity......that tells them not to allow bullies, but then suspends them for protecting themselves from a bully...........and on, and on, and on............Ultimately it tends to leave them so confused, with so much turmoil in their heads, it's no wonder many of them go nuts and wind up melting down.
 
Well look at what the older people these days are doing Credit card debt is at an all time high,older people getting addicted to all sorts of drugs,I know people in their 60's and 70's
making crazy financial decisions.No wonder the young folks are screwed up look at the examples they have to learn from.
 
Don't judge an entire generation based on the actions of a handful of individuals.

You probably would not want to be judged yourself on the behavior of your fellow geezers.
 
(quoted from post at 03:03:20 04/06/18) Well look at what the older people these days are doing Credit card debt is at an all time high,older people getting addicted to all sorts of drugs,I know people in their 60's and 70's
making crazy financial decisions.No wonder the young folks are screwed up look at the examples they have to learn from.
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Financial responsibility is something learned in the home. If we bail out someone everytime they are in a financial bind then what is learned?
 
(quoted from post at 14:15:05 04/05/18) My guess is that IQ test results reflect number of immigrant children , whose first language is not English,
not scoring as well. When people in the western countries don't have kids, more immigration is required to
keep the population growing. Our entire economy is based on continual growth. If we had more kids , and our
kids had more kids, we wouldn't be bring in as many folks from other countries, and I don't think these IQ
scores would look like they do.How well can any of you function in a language other than the language of
your birth ?
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IQ tests are entirely subjective in the first place. They depend not on your ability to reason and learn, but on your familiarity with various concepts. Of course the people designing the test use the concepts they find challenging based on their training. They aren't a good method of determining ability to think.
 
(quoted from post at 17:16:17 04/05/18) I don?t dispute your overall take and statistics except in one instance. When it comes to the rise in children with disabilities and special needs, there is no line between it effecting the different economic classes. My sister is a principal of a school for children with special needs and deals daily with the parents who come from all walks of life, rich, poor, middle class, white, black, Indian, etc. There is no solid evidence as to what has caused the rise in disabilities in children since the early 1980?s, but many theories that have yet to be proven. It afflicts all walks of life equally, not just the poor.
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I agree completely. My wife is a Special Ed teacher. There is no end to the growing number of kids with issues. What causes it? I used to think we just recognized the issue that we didn't see before. But it's way past that now. Chemicals in common foods? I dunno.
 
(quoted from post at 19:42:41 04/05/18) Actually the opposite happened in Ontario. Regular local schools had the habit of removing children with disabilities/special needs and would stick them into centralized specialty schools where they could get more attention. In the early 90?s, the gov?t found that there was an ever increasing number of special needs children and that it would make more sense to offer education at the local schools rather than shipping them out. The province shut down 90% of the special schools and put the kids back into the mainstream. The outcome has been debated for years, did it help having all the kids together, or did they lose a more specialized education?
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They did the same thing. And then they began performance testing the teachers, you know, Common Core. Ask yourself this- if a teacher has a class of 25 kids and 4 of them are special needs and another teacher has a class with 25 kids and 14 of them are special needs...who is going to have the numbers to show them being a better performing teacher? This method was used locally to fire some good teachers that didn't take crap from the Super.

Statistics can be used for good or evil.
 
I am 52 years old and finished college the first time in the late 1980's. The 4 year college degree was valuable then as it certainly helped one to obtain a better job back then. A 4 year college degree IN THE RIGHT FIELD still is a valuable asset to have. One also has to be willing to relocate to those areas where the jobs are in demand. There certainly is a cost to obtaining that degree, and it is greater today than it was when I went to college in the mid to late 1980's. Back then, it was also a different time, too. The rural areas involving farming or agriculture, in general, were chasing their children away to larger cities where the opportunities were. My hometown lost a third of its population with this exodus and has never rebounded. Today, as I think about the entry level positions I had access to after graduating college, as compared to where they are today, and have actually looked at the cost of that same education today, as compared to what it cost then, it is rather eye opening. The entry level positions of today in that area have roughly doubled in terms of compensation, while the cost of that education has increased on the order of 5 to 6 times what is was back then. I actually went on line and looked at the current tuition rates at the two colleges I attended. Just this factor alone plays into the debt statistics brought up.
 
Your comment makes me think of some BTO's who have gone through bankruptcy, write-downs, debt restructuring, or loan forgiveness................and more than once. After each, they came back bigger again, more competitive, and likewise employed "bulldozer" tactics towards those who were "in their way." They didn't learn a thing other than to go into debt even deeper, because they could walk away from the commitments THEY SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE for!
 
I think machinery reduces our phydical strength to 0 in only 2 generations due to lack of neex. My grandfather would went up on a ladder with a 250 lbs bag of wheat. And he lived to be 90 years.

Now think about the harm done by internet and technologies to our brain over few centuries, due to lack of use.

This world is a parody of comsumerism.
Voltaire said: "we should cultivate our garden."
 
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