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Trip to Kansas tonight

rockyridgefarm

rockyridgefarm

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Leaving for NE KS tonight. Well, first western Missouri, then Kansas. Took this same trip on 19 December last year and brought home the clipper 29d I rebuilt over the winter. This time I’m getting more screens and maybe one of those IH PTO powered terrace plows. Any guesses on how much I should offer him? He has three or more. I’ll be home by 10 tomorrow night if all goes well.

At least I don’t have to worry as much about DOT enforcement. I bought a light trailer so my GVW is 24,000
 
You are correct that you don't have to worry as much..... But there is also a 10,000 GVW rule that basically says if you are crossing state lines above that weight, you need a USDOT number, Log book and
follow the time on duty rules, DOT medical, signs on the tow vehicle and DOT vehicle inspections on both tow and towed. But if you have an unmarked pickup and trailer you will more than likely sneak by.
 
I'm not sure you are right. I think a regular Joe Public can haul a car on a trailer behind.a pickup all the way across this wonderful country of ours. Anytime he or she wants to.
 
VicS
You are correct about Joe Public. In fact I pull my 28.000 GVW RV across the county without a CDL, DOT medical or log book. However if you make or have the potential to make any money at it, it is a different story. i.e. if you buy a tractor in another state, haul it home, rebuild it then sell it for a profit you fall under the rules I stated or f you race a car and have the potential of winning money the rules apply. And sometimes the young DOT cop can ruin your day because he/she does not interpit the law in your favor. Been there done that.
 
Tony,

What's your reference? My grandson has been hearing/reading on social media about such things and I could find no such references. Yesterday at the family gathering, I ask my nephew who is a DOT cop. He said it was all news to him.
 
(quoted from post at 20:47:37 04/01/18) Tony,

What's your reference? My grandson has been hearing/reading on social media about such things and I could find no such references. Yesterday at the family gathering, I ask my nephew who is a DOT cop. He said it was all news to him.
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I think it varies state to state on rules and enforcement. Heck DOT cops here have started going after farmers with livestock trailers behind pickups. Both overweight and checking to make sure some guy ain't hauling for hire on farm plates. Some of the local farmers are pretty upset. Some have been late getting to the sale barns.

Rick
 
Wrong about log books and state lines. There is nothing in the law that says you need to keep a log if you cross a state line. Law says that if you stay within 100 air miles of your home terminal, work less than 12 hours, and keep accurate records of your time at your home terminal, no log book is required.

Example: I live within 20 miles of a state line. I travelled across 2 states with a commercial 5-axle truck to deliver freight. Stopped at the port of entry scale whenever it was open (most of the time). Never was a word spoken about logs. I did not touch a logbook for over 10 years. Local peddle. I did return to my home terminal every day, punched in and out on a time clock, and carried no more than a trip sheet, bill of lading, and the usual assortment of CDL, medical card, IFTA card, registration and proof of insurance. Never had any issues about logs in any of the 5 states that I travelled in. Due to my location, I could go to Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, and Connecticut without going outside my 100 air miles.
 
Its federal law. 49 CFR Parts 300-399. Not easy to find but its there. I have a fleet of 10000 to 26000 lb trucks that cross state lines regularly. My first encounter was at a weigh station in SD. An other one in IA gave me 3 citations and 5 warnings and did a full inspection on my new pickup and empty 1 year old trailer. Everything worked and passed.
I bet if your nephew asked his boss he would find out I'm right. Ive been working multi states for over 30 years.
 
I don't need to keep log book for my business, due to my radius of travel. My question is about the HUT stickers. Now that I'm going to need a New York HUT sticker, it looks like I'm going to do a log book. Anyone know for sure?
 
(quoted from post at 19:25:01 04/01/18) Where are you coming from?

There was a band of snow that went through there.
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David,

It sure did! I saw dozens of cars in the ditch north of Kansas City on 35. Bad drivers? Unaccustomed to snow? Bad tires? All makes of vehicles - cars, pickups, SUVs. The toad was clear by the time I went by at 1-3am.
 
Agreed. Farming is a form profit venture.

A few years ago the KHP was pulling over vehicles towing race cars to Heartland Park Raceway in Topeka. They were enforcing all the Commercial licensing rules because the trophy the drivers received made racing a "for profit" venture.
 
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