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Crazy Horse
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If they are good for the old organ, then I'd say it's money well spent !!!
According to what can be found on the web, bell peppers are notorious for being in the dirty dozen having been treated with insecticides, herbicides, whatever. I also question what you get for "organic" given we have to trust that they are what they say they are.
Having grown bell peppers for most of my adult life, why you need to use these chemicals is beyond me. A raw uncooked red bell pepper has twice if not more Vitamin C then an orange and has all kinds of other nutritional and health benefits. I have one a day, if the alleged organic ones are available, most times they are. Ones from Israel late last fall were about as good as the ones I grow.
I don't like chemicals, was poisoned with some noxious insecticide used for flies in one of our barns in the late 60's. It just about killed me, I was very young but remember being in the hospital. No idea what it was, just that it will kill a person if absorbed through the skin.
Having grown bell peppers for most of my adult life, why you need to use these chemicals is beyond me. A raw uncooked red bell pepper has twice if not more Vitamin C then an orange and has all kinds of other nutritional and health benefits. I have one a day, if the alleged organic ones are available, most times they are. Ones from Israel late last fall were about as good as the ones I grow.
I don't like chemicals, was poisoned with some noxious insecticide used for flies in one of our barns in the late 60's. It just about killed me, I was very young but remember being in the hospital. No idea what it was, just that it will kill a person if absorbed through the skin.
larry@stinescorner
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I Know in Pa I have grown many peppers,all different colors,,I never needed any chemicals and they grew well.It is harder to get the red peppers,some rot before they get all red,but they all grow good there.If you fertilize,dont put high nitrogen,,youll get nice plants but not many peppers.Keep the hot peppers away from the sweet,they will mix
Bob Harvey
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I guess I don't understand, everything that grows is 'Organic' in some way shape or form. Shouldn't the label read ' no chemicals applied' ? AND what are the chemicals made of ? Just wondering.
farmerwithmutt
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Root crops well be more contaminated then
above ground crops such as corn are. You
will have more soil contaminated verses
above ground are washed with rain.
The organic farmers are laughing all the way
to the bank. Most organic seem to have a
greater passion for farming and are willing
to take extra steps to grow a quality
product well informed customers want that in
any product they buy
above ground crops such as corn are. You
will have more soil contaminated verses
above ground are washed with rain.
The organic farmers are laughing all the way
to the bank. Most organic seem to have a
greater passion for farming and are willing
to take extra steps to grow a quality
product well informed customers want that in
any product they buy
farmerwithmutt
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I would think most farmers would know what I'm talking about.
Traditional Farmer
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Real simple supply and demand.I bought an Oliver 1550 from a farm in NC that was around 1000 acres they mostly raise organic wheat and organic green peppers owner said he can't keep up with demand. He had 2 huge greenhouses with nothing but peppers plants in them.
Kansasredneck
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While I am not into the organic produce, I can understand the concerns. My father died of cancer. According to his doctor, it was caused by atrazine. Syngenta claims it won't cause cancer.
SodBuster87
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Well FWIW I worked on a organic dairy seen first hand and now avoid organic food like the plague.
Take a long hard look at the picture. Organics seem to have done more to them than genetic modification would have. The peppers look just like potatoes and the avocados have taken on the appearance of onions.
Don't feel bad. Royse had to send me an email before I caught on.
Don't feel bad. Royse had to send me an email before I caught on.
Traditional Farmer
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You fellows get quite a kick out of playing the 'victim' and act like someone is forcing you to buy organic foods.I think its great that there are choices in food more choices the better.Could it be that you know that organic is winning and what you fellows produce is on the way out? Already its less profitable for you or in many cases you're loosing your butts these day producing what you are now.Characterizing the consumers you hope to win back with irrational,mostly false declarations is hardly the way to go that's what one does when they don't really have a reasonable argument to present for one's side.Of course that may be the problem.Anyway the issue will be decided as it should by where consumer $$$ goes regardless of the reason or what any of us say here.
farmerwithmutt
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Seems to me you are trying to change the subject. Sometimes i wonder how humans evolved you show a different way of doing things and offer a choice and as i always said present the facts on the subject and let the customer decide . That is one of the way sustainable farms are thriving granted as in all there are a few bad apples but i can show anyone as many on the other side to . But i am saying i can show a person not just make a wild statement.
The way you wrote what you said made it sounded like you think the roots are only in the first inch or two of the surface where the rain has washed out the pesticides. I'm just saying they root deeper than that,and that pesticides don't wash down,they biodegrade. Translocation brings whatever would be in the ground,up in to the whole plant anyway.
Randy: It doesn't matter if the chemicals you use are safe or not. What matters is what the buying public thinks. And the buying public doesn't trust the chemical companies. Seems like more and more each day think those chemicals are dangerous. Even after the chemical companies have spent millions in ads trying to convince they it's safe. Posting sarcastic comments on here isn't fixing the problem. Trying to win an argument with ridicule seldom works. Facts, provable facts, are the way to win an argument.
The buying public doesn't trust most farmers either. First place they don't know you. And what they see is you (farmers in general) on the news crying about money. They are use to any business that gets into money trouble to lie, cheat and steal to make a profit. So no, they are not going to trust you or the chemical companies to produce a safe product. Don't try to convince us. You have been trying to do that for years and have failed. TF hasn't changed his views one little bit now has he? You and the other farmers need to be out there convincing the Walmart shopper that organic/free range/grass fed is just a waste of money. Because that ever growing demand for that stuff is only going to reduce demand for your product and cut further into your profits.
Rick
Traditional Farmer
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The TV I watch is mostly ball games and 90% of the commercials are for beer which I don't drink so I guess they're wasting air time on me,but if I was to drink beer it be organic beer(LOL).I gave up worrying about what others people think about me about 60 years ago BTW.
Traditional Farmer
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On that subject the organic poultry producers over in the Shenandoah Valley (a Repub,conservative strong hold BTW) just bought a $900,000 slaughter facility they
have around 30 growers in VA and WV and growing while the conventional growers are shrinking.Anyway when You buy a package of chicken there is a code on the package that ID's the farm the chicken was raised on and you can go to their website and see pictures of the operation and how the chickens are raised.I heard there are plans for a live cam at some farms.This is what sells these days as many consumers want to know where and under what conditions their food is raised and they
are willing to pay a premium for it.
have around 30 growers in VA and WV and growing while the conventional growers are shrinking.Anyway when You buy a package of chicken there is a code on the package that ID's the farm the chicken was raised on and you can go to their website and see pictures of the operation and how the chickens are raised.I heard there are plans for a live cam at some farms.This is what sells these days as many consumers want to know where and under what conditions their food is raised and they
are willing to pay a premium for it.
Traditional Farmer
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Gotta change with the times,we used to range raise turkeys and slaughter them ourselves,milk cows by hand,grow small amounts of grain,raise hogs all those things
became unprofitable at some point in time for us,we quit them and went to other things some didn't and it ended badly for them.No guarantee for anyone they won't have to do things differently at some point.Really more so today than ever as things change quickly these days.I'd of never thought 20 years ago that goats would be the most profitable thing I do farming and has the best future,never know where things are headed.
became unprofitable at some point in time for us,we quit them and went to other things some didn't and it ended badly for them.No guarantee for anyone they won't have to do things differently at some point.Really more so today than ever as things change quickly these days.I'd of never thought 20 years ago that goats would be the most profitable thing I do farming and has the best future,never know where things are headed.
farmerwithmutt
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You ain't got it yet go to a farmers market maybe they well show you
1948CaseVAI
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First of all I am truly sorry your Dad had cancer and that it eventually got him. But it sounds like his doctor was a really irresponsible quack. There is no doctor, or scientist of any discipline, on the planet that could definitively tell you and your Dad that atrazine caused a particular cancer. The doctor can suspect that. He could even bellieve it in his heart. But it was really irresponsible to tell that to a dying person because the truth is that the doctor cannot possibly know that with scientific certainty.
Texasmark1
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Not that big of a disparity, but Organic Bananas (I get from ww) do last longer, much longer than regular Del Monte and Dole to name a
couple, and retain their flavor better too. Now don't ask me what constitutes an OB. Have no earthly idea.
couple, and retain their flavor better too. Now don't ask me what constitutes an OB. Have no earthly idea.
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