Buying As Is

Traditional Farmer · Mar 23, 2018

Bud Yingling at his salvage yard in Gettysburg PA would sell complete tractors sometimes.He'd let you drive it around test it out anyway you wanted but would say when you come in
and I write up the ticket and you pay me its your tractor period.If you go out and start it up and the motor blows going on the trailer I'll push it on the trailer for you and wish you
luck and sell you parts to fix it that its.Even wrote on the ticket FOR PARTS ONLY even had the buyer sign the ticket.

paul · Mar 23, 2018

That is fair and the way to do it.

Car dealers have gotten in a grey area, they try to represent everything as pristine and driven to church by granny, but then pretty obviously know of and hide flaws..... I don't have an answer, it is buyer beware, but should be represented fairly too.

Paul

Traditional Farmer · Mar 23, 2018

Well used car dealers are like Rattlesnakes you know going in they'll bite if they get the chance and if you think any different you're kidding yourself.

hydro70guy · Mar 23, 2018

While there are a few bad apples, the vast majority of new and used car dealers are fair. More dealers would tell you the AC does not work in a car than people trading in a car and thats a fact. Most will help with labor on repairs needed after the sale even though they do not make that promise. As for the kid who drove 3 hours to save some money on a used vehicle over buying locally I have little sympathy for him.

showcrop · Mar 23, 2018

Most car dealers like most other business owners or CEOs are aware that they need to have a good reputation and repeat customers to last. It is probably best to not spend big $ with a new business, because there are people who look to just make a fast buck.

sotxbill · Mar 23, 2018

(quoted from post at 08:37:29 03/23/18) That is fair and the way to do it.

Car dealers have gotten in a grey area, they try to represent everything as pristine and driven to church by granny, but then pretty obviously know of and hide flaws..... I don't have an answer, it is buyer beware, but should be represented fairly too.

Paul

They take a trade-in and send it to the car wash guy for clean up and then put in on the lot.... So... if you think that they overhauled it, rebuilt it, or waved a magic wand over it, you highly mistaken. They dont even change the oil. And if the car is ugly, it gets taken to the auction. So,, buck up... dont set wrong expectations as they dont know anymore about the car than you do. In fact, if you run a car-fax, you will know much more than they do. So folks, again, drop the childish expectations of a car whisperer and buyer beware.

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 23, 2018

The childish expectation is that being ignorant of the terms of sale gives you grounds to demand satisfaction for issues found after the sale.

hd6gtom · Mar 23, 2018

I can see you guys have never been in the car business. If you buy anything AS IS its yours. As far as trying to cheat everyone that drives on the lot you guys are either crazy or just plain stupid. Worked for a dealership for 11 years. The lies we were told by people who bought stuff from us are unbelievable. You think these people cannot tell you didn't change oil for 20000 miles or ever??? come back with both front or rear tire bald and you claim the tranny just went out while driving around town at 25 mph. Just how stupid are you people?????

pinball · Mar 23, 2018

Buying cars are governed some what by states. Salvage yards not so much. I can tell you this is when you sell something and take a check for it or the person wants a receipt you had better ad AS IS CONDITION OR FOR PARTS ONLY to protect your self. You as a seller are responsible for telling a person what you know is wrong with it . Any good lawyer or judge will tell you to put that on your sale receipt to protect your self. When you go to a sale what does the auctioneer say. YOU ARE BUYING AS IS WHERE IS. That's relieves him of the responsibility and puts it square on the buyer. The world we use to know when a hand shake was gospel is far and few between so you as a seller or buyer better do whats right to protect your selves.

Charlie M · Mar 23, 2018

I like doing business with guys like that. You know where they are at and its up to me to decide if I want to agree with it.

Howard H. · Mar 23, 2018

Not sure who you are calling stupid?? Car dealer customers in general? Your customers when you were working there? Forum members? Just people posting on this thread??

But I know it works both ways - back in college my girlfriend asked me to go check out a car she was about to buy from a local dealer.

It was missing pretty bad on the test drive, so I popped the hood and noticed it had brand new plugs and wires. Got it back to the dealer and when I asked why it was missing he tried telling us it had just ?had a tuneup? and was fine. I guess that BS might work with some poor female college students who didn?t know any better, but not someone who grew up on a farm working on motors.

We ran into several similar shysters before we found her a good car.

Howard

Hay hay hay · Mar 23, 2018

I agree with you, most "long term" dealers are honest or they would have been run out of the business long ago.
Interesting that the customer thinks it is totally fair to lie to the dealer about the car he is trading in...but that dealer better not lie to the customer or that dealer is a crook. Totally illogical, as usual.

LAA · Mar 23, 2018

That is crystal clear to me but I would guess there were always some crybabies who came back whinging and moaning.

ed will · Mar 23, 2018

Hi, I sold a Case 530 about 12 yrs ago. I drove it onto the fellows loboy. He paid me. About 2 or 3 days later he said the torque converter pump was toast. He said it cost
$600 for the pump. (Probable rebuild). I gave him the money, he still had to split it and install etc. Although the machine was sold as is. I didn't want to appear as a shyster. It was worth it to me in my mind. No big deal in the scheme of things. I don't know if a dealer would do that but they may because it was only 2 or 3 days.
Ed Will Oliver BC

mmfan55 · Mar 23, 2018

Several years ago I traded semi tractors with a dealer. He never asked anything about the truck I was trading in until AFTER we signed the papers and he got title and check. Then he said something like: it's my truck now, what can you tell me about it. Sure was surprised. Guess he made enough off of the one I bought that he didn't care. Me either. Just wanted rid of it.

DR. EVIL · Mar 23, 2018

Dad knocked the pto out of his 4010-D just a week or so before our landlord's land auction first week of August selling the 160 farm we lived on. No way Dad wanted to buy it, he had already worked that spring delivering fuel & fertilizer for FS, Growmark. He had the 4010 delivered to the small repair shop that rebuilt the engine 6 months before. They installed new engine & pto clutch, fixed the speed change gears, the shop also had a young guy interested in buying it, son of a guy Dad went to HS with. So Dad sold it! Dad paid the the pto & clutch work, young guy paid for the M&W turbo. Was about a year later the young guy comes back with a BIG bill for transmission/rearend work and wanted Dad to pay all or at least some of it. THAT did not happen.

But just shows anything can happen.

James Howell · Mar 23, 2018

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]you pay me its your tractor period.[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

Sounds a lot like an <a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oklahoma%20Guarantee">Oklahoma Guarantee</a>.

pete 23 · Mar 23, 2018

Local farmer retired and had auction. Sold a IH Farmall 656 Diesel and youngster jumped on to drive it home. Came to a intersection, throttled it way down and the engine died. It trashed the hydrostatic motor, ripping the slipper ends off the pistons. Farmer gave buyer his money back. Had us haul it into shop and paid for complete repair. I thought that was pretty darn straight of him. I don't know what he did with the tractor after that.

Clarence Slydell · Mar 24, 2018

(quoted from post at 08:18:55 03/23/18) I can see you guys have never been in the car business. If you buy anything AS IS its yours. As far as trying to cheat everyone that drives on the lot you guys are either crazy or just plain stupid. Worked for a dealership for 11 years. The lies we were told by people who bought stuff from us are unbelievable. You think these people cannot tell you didn't change oil for 20000 miles or ever??? come back with both front or rear tire bald and you claim the tranny just went out while driving around town at 25 mph. Just how stupid are you people?????

Hear, hear!

Well said.

Traditional Farmer · Mar 24, 2018

Thats like at auctions if I buy a tractor I always try to find the owner to after the sale to find out what is the real story on it.

RandyB(MI) · Mar 24, 2018

Don't know how this post got off on "cars/trucks" but it's apples to oranges IMO. It's a salvage yard for heavens sake! Most won't even sell you a "whole" tractor. And when they won't, they get badmouthed about that also ! Just a side note...I know at least 3 families of self proclaimed "true Christians" who would NOT sell a car with problems to anyone......ACCEPT...they have NO problem taking it in to a dealer and trading it WITHOUT divulging any knowlege they have of problems. Who do they think buys it next? Yesiree, car dealers could give you stories that would make yur head spin about the innocent public. Not defending, as it always goes both ways. Just sayin' , this is an old farm tractor in a salvage yard..he'd be an complete idiot (or a abundant) to sell it any other way. He's doing them a favor by even selling as a whole tractor and not parting it.

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