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rusty6

rusty6

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East central Sask.
Finally took the plunge and bought a Lincoln 180 wire feed. Can't try it yet as it's cord won't plug into the old welder (Smith Roles 180)
outlet. That one has the old "crowfoot" plug on the end of the cord. I've got a new 50 amp outlet to install but I've come up with another
idea. Make an extension cord for the new Lincoln wire feed with an old style crowfoot plug on the end that will plug into the existing welder
outlet but have the new style on the other end of the extension so I can plug the new welder into that. This way I can have the option of
using either welder just by unplugging a cord. The catch is, are those old crowfoot, male ends , still available? That Smith Roles is a 45
year old welder.
 
have three different plugs one is for my generator so I can weld in the field if I need to you can buy them already made up
 
How about putting a new 50 amp cord end on the old welder? That way all all plugs would be up to code. Princess auto sells 50 amp extension cords for a reasonable price. You can't make a cord for the price that they sell these cords. You can then drag your mig where ever you need it. Very handy to be able to pull that mig out of the shop to weld on some old -- (or new) piece of farm equipment.

Ranch.
Former industrial electrician turned heavy duty mech who still wants to farm.
 
Good that you decided on the Lincoln. Good mid range welder. Depending on how you set it up, you may have to match the liner with your wire size. Jon F Mn was a big help to me to finally make mine usable.

Gene
 
I have a few plug adaptors like that for plugging in at different places. I just use a foot or so of wire and a plug on each end. I am asked to help at a lot of people's places, so this way I can just plug into their outlet.
 
I made a 1 ft extension like that. That way the long cord can still be used with old welder. Just remember old rust does not weld with that or any mig. Outside in the wind doesn?t work either. The gas blows away. I have the same welder and love it. But it stays inside.

If you grind or wire brush real well you can weld old steel. If you don?t you can make a beautiful weld and it never stuck to the rust side
 
I made mine 50 feet long so the welder can move around the shop. A wire welder can't have long leads like an arc welder so the welder itself has to be close to the project.
 
You might find one already to go cheaper than you can make one. I have a foot long one that goes from 30 amp to 50 amp plus a couple small adapters I use on my generator and camper.
 
(quoted from post at 07:10:49 03/06/18) You might find one already to go cheaper than you can make one. I have a foot long one that goes from 30 amp to 50 amp plus a couple small adapters I use on my generator and camper.
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I think if I am going to make or even buy an adaptor extension cord it had better be long enough to get the welder off the work bench and near the job I am working on. And yes, I've been advised that rusty old metal needs to be very clean if I want to weld it. I've got some flux core wire to start with. No gas yet for solid wire.
 
This might sound stupid. Yes you can do that and it works very well. I have maybe four different ways to hook stuff up between outlets, generators, and backup power. Make sure you take a meter and wire the plugs correctly. Line 1 line 2 and neutral and ground depending on what you have. That old 220 / 240 can really bite ya!
 
(quoted from post at 08:14:53 03/06/18) This might sound stupid. Yes you can do that and it works very well. I have maybe four different ways to hook stuff up between outlets, generators, and backup power. Make sure you take a meter and wire the plugs correctly. Line 1 line 2 and neutral and ground depending on what you have. That old 220 / 240 can really bite ya!
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I posted in a separate topic this morning that I have found both welders have the same configuration on the plug so I can use the existing outlet in the shop. Still need to make an extension for the wire welder though.
 
I have an inexpensive wire feed welder from Harbor Freight. I only use it once or twice a year for small projects. If that. I originally had it set up with a small cylinder of gas. I believe it was 75/25 oxygen, argon. I never could get it to work well. I finally switched to flux core wire. On this particular welder you have to change electrical connections inside the door in order to use flux core wire. On a thread some where someone told me to take the small cylinder and roll it around on the floor to re-mix the gas. I never knew if he was being honest, or sending me on the proverbial "Snipe Hunt" Was he pulling my leg, or giving me the straight scoop? If he was telling the truth, does this gas go bad over time? Like I said, I only use it once or twice a year. I have had this tank for about 6 years now. I do know I have an airless nail gun that uses small gas cylinders and those do go bad. Thanks Greg
 
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