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Randy K. Crump

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I have a JD 70 row crop that I would like to haul to a parade. I have a car trailer but the JD 70 is too wide. Does anyone make
a tractor dolly that I could pull behind my pick-up truck? Are there any other options other than paying someone to transport the
tractor? I would rather not purchase a fifth-wheel trailer.
 
You can buy bumper pull trailers that are large enough and heavy enough. Trouble with owning one though is that people you don't even know will be lining up wanting to borrow it.
 
A dolly would not have brakes. Towing a 7,000 pound tractor without brakes under the tractor would be risky unless you tow slowly near tractor speeds. How fast is road gear on that tractor? If your weather is good and you can stay on back roads, a 50 mile four hour tractor ride can be very pleasant.
 
Many years ago I had a home-made tractor dolly for narrow front tractors. It had a flip-down ramp to get the tractor on it. I used it some, but never got real comfortable with it. It was for slow speed short distance use only. I lived three miles from the farm, and used it to occasionally ferry a tractor back and forth. They are simple and easy to make. Make sure you build it to carry the front tractor wheels ahead of the dolly wheels. If the tractor front is balanced between the dolly wheels, it will tend to lift your pickup on hills and pulling away from a stop, especially on gravel. You could say that I made the same one twice, for the reason stated above. The one I made was very easy to loan out - it usually required several phone calls to track it down. The last guy that I retrieved it from didn't even know that I owned it, ha. It's not the kind of thing that you'd want to weld your name on. I can't even remember what I traded it for - been too many years.
 
Do you mean the tractor is too wide for the tires to clear the trailer fenders,

If so;
Remove front jack
Drop trailer hitch on the ground
Load tractor from the front
Pick up trailer with floor jack, hook up and go.
 
good morning randy, pulling a 7000lb tractor on a bumper pull can get scary really fast! your trailer will be 6 to 7000lb plus the tractor at 7000lbs your looking at 14000lbs on your bumper! I did this moving my mm m-5 home and anything over 50mph the trailer would start to fish tail behind me. I was pulling it with my 05 dodge 3/4 ton diesel. my recommendation would be either a 1 ton dually if your going with a bumper pull or a fifth wheel trailer if your going with a 3/4 ton. when the trailer starts to fish tail it will get your undivided attention in a hurry :lol: and your heart rate right up there.
 
I solved that problem. I put a commercial license on my trailer. It was the same price as a car hauler license but the truck must be licensed higher GVW to pull it. That put my truck into a higher less risk weight class that saved me $250 on my truck license. I don't lend my truck out. I have done some free hauling for friends,
Dave
 

A dolly under the front wheels, with the tractor rear tires still on the ground, will limit your speed to no faster than what the tractor is capable of by itself. You may as well just get on the tractor and drive it to the parade.
 
(quoted from post at 08:50:10 02/20/18) good morning randy, pulling a 7000lb tractor on a bumper pull can get scary really fast! your trailer will be 6 to 7000lb plus the tractor at 7000lbs your looking at 14000lbs on your bumper!
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Sounds a bit steep to me. A 22' PJ deck-over trailer, tilt bed, gooseneck weighs in a little over 4,300 lbs. If he can't fit his tractor on his trailer, I suspect the trailer weight might be about half of the deck-over.
 
(quoted from post at 11:50:10 02/20/18) good morning randy, pulling a 7000lb tractor on a bumper pull can get scary really fast! your trailer will be 6 to 7000lb plus the tractor at 7000lbs your looking at 14000lbs on your bumper! I did this moving my mm m-5 home and anything over 50mph the trailer would start to fish tail behind me. I was pulling it with my 05 dodge 3/4 ton diesel. my recommendation would be either a 1 ton dually if your going with a bumper pull or a fifth wheel trailer if your going with a 3/4 ton. when the trailer starts to fish tail it will get your undivided attention in a hurry :lol: and your heart rate right up there.
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Maybe a typo?
A 7000lb gvw trailer (car hauler) is not going to weigh 6 to 7k empty. 1000 to 1300 max. empty.
 
I have one or at least I think I do but it is at a friends place and haven't seen it for a few years. Used it for a late JD A with fluid and weights. Others used it For a MD and not sure what all else. Could pull about 25 MPH. Made of 36-39 Ford car front wheels. and I bought it from a seed corn grower that no longer had narrow front tractors. Has a chain to hold front fast. At onr time had a ramp but I never saw it so I gust used a cement block with a plank to load.
 
I have a 20' plus 5' hitch pull beavertail 14K limit.

I think a 7K trailer with a 70 on it is a bit to loaded.
 
Haven't ever done it myself but a dolly sounds like a bad idea for a multitude of reasons. Others are right, a 70 is a bit much for a trailer with 2 3500# axles. You can buy bumper pulls with 5000 or 7000# axles, either would work fine, just might have to slide the wheels in some. No need for a big gooseneck flatbed and dually diesel if you have no other use for it.
 
In my lifetime I have seen three tractors upside down in the ditch when the tractor came loose from the dolly. I was pulling a tractor with a tow bar and somehow the Tractor slipped into two gears at once. BANG! Made quite a black mark on the highway till I got stopped. Didn't hurt the tractor though.
 
Someone below mentioned removing jack and driving it on from the front- I've done that a couple times, and it worked fine- running the tractor up so the back tires of the tractor just touched the front of the trailer fenders made the weight distribution just about perfect, and the trailer followed along just fine. To do it, you'll need to block up the front corners (and the center, with a narrow front tractor), and use planks to get it on the trailer.

That being said, most car trailers have no more than 3,500# axles, giving you max of about 5,000# payload (trailer will weigh about 2,000#). So you'll be overloaded with the 70. Probably would work OK if you have good trailer brakes, and you take it easy on the speed. Check to see that you have 3,500# axles- if it is a light duty car trailer with lesser axles, don't even think about it.
 
My Brother's round bale trailer has the ball on the trailer to stop the borrowing. LOL I will have to get a picture. He has a receiver hitch made with the female ball hitch on it to pull the bale trailer. He has two BILs that will borrow you to death. LOL
 
A John Deere 70 weighs approximately 6500lbs DRY, as in with no fuel, no oil, no extra wheel weights, no 3pt hitch, no driver, so these guys are not blowing smoke up your butt.

It's too much weight for a basic car hauler with 5-lug wheels. Those basic car haulers tend to be built light and really don't take well to being overloaded either. If you try, you will end up with a bent trailer.

For a basic 70 on a proper trailer, you are looking at a minimum of 10,000lbs total weight behind the truck.
 
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You might consider renting or purchasing a flat bed, goose neck trailer.

We have a 23ft flat bed trailer to haul our tractors.
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Hope this helps.
 
I have no idea.

Replaced two of three axles and installed new electric brakes.

Do not remember the axle rating that was installed.
 
I have never seen a trailer that you could do that with. First most have a rail aroundabout a foot above the floor. The ones that do not have that the floor is no wider in front of fenders than it is between fenders so tires would only be part way on. And then I have never seen a jack you could remove.
 
You can get some crossties, cut one end at an angle, place them inside of fenders and drive up on them and tie down. Don't go far with a 2cyl JD that way. With front end low: oil will go by ring a into cylinders. Lots of smoke on start up. (Yes, from experience).
 
(quoted from post at 16:27:15 02/20/18) I have never seen a trailer that you could do that with. First most have a rail aroundabout a foot above the floor. The ones that do not have that the floor is no wider in front of fenders than it is between fenders so tires would only be part way on. And then I have never seen a jack you could remove.
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You need to get out more :roll:

I agree it would be the minority of the trailers but I don't believe the guys who say they've done it are lying.
 
You should be able to rent a 16-18 ft. trailer for about $90-100 per day. I am in the process of doing this to go get a tractor that weighs about 6500 lbs. I think the trailer will hold at least 10,000 lbs. All you need is a 2 inch or larger receiver tube.
 
(quoted from post at 21:54:38 02/20/18) You should be able to rent a 16-18 ft. trailer for about $90-100 per day. I am in the process of doing this to go get a tractor that weighs about 6500 lbs. I think the trailer will hold at least 10,000 lbs. All you need is a 2 inch or larger receiver tube.
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The only problem is the company that is renting them out......Many of the chain stores will enter your tow vehicle number into their database and it will tell the clerk you can rent it or you can't.
And they are not liberall with the numbers allowed.
 
JD wheels are easy to adjust. (If can get wedge loose) don't need to Jack up. Just let it idle in low.
 
(quoted from post at 09:05:04 02/20/18)
(quoted from post at 11:50:10 02/20/18) good morning randy, pulling a 7000lb tractor on a bumper pull can get scary really fast! your trailer will be 6 to 7000lb plus the tractor at 7000lbs your looking at 14000lbs on your bumper! I did this moving my mm m-5 home and anything over 50mph the trailer would start to fish tail behind me. I was pulling it with my 05 dodge 3/4 ton diesel. my recommendation would be either a 1 ton dually if your going with a bumper pull or a fifth wheel trailer if your going with a 3/4 ton. when the trailer starts to fish tail it will get your undivided attention in a hurry :lol: and your heart rate right up there.
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Maybe a typo?
A 7000lb gvw trailer (car hauler) is not going to weigh 6 to 7k empty. 1000 to 1300 max. empty.
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double07 the tractor weighs 7000lbs a carhauler rated for 7000.lbs is the combined weight of the trailer AND load it will have 2 3500lb rated axles under it and a 7000.lb carhauler will weigh in at no less than 2500 to 3000lbs. go to any trailer manufactors web site and check out what the tare weight of a 7000lb carhauler is.
 
I stand corrected kcm, but would you put a 7000lb tractor on a trailer built that light? I sure wouldn't, and traveling at highway speeds if you hit a good size bump or heave in the road, you would have a wreck on your hands in a hurry. IMO.
 
You the only tractor in the parade? May be another participant willing to help you out for some gas money--if you're all fairly local.
 
Dune Country

My 18 foot tractor hauler has two 6000 lb dexter axles under it and has easily and many times hauled my tractor rig which is about 8000 lbs with no handling problems.
 
Yes, I would, but not without beefing up the axles, or AT LEAST the springs!

I bought a 16' enclosed trailer a few years back, has tandem 3,500lb. axles. I loaded the trailer to full capacity by loading a large water tank, then filling up with water to the correct limit. Video-recorded the full event, plus mounted a dash cam under the trailer. Towed the loaded trailer to the end of the driveway and back (about 1/3 mile, I guess) and never got over 10 MPH. I have video of the axles and U-bolts slamming into the trailer frame with such force that it dented the frame.

If a 7,000 lb. trailer actually weighed 7,000 lbs, then you'd only be able to haul a couple of snowmobiles before going over the GVWR for the tow vehicle. I replaced the stock springs with 5,200 lb. springs and haven't looked back! Yes, a little bit stiffer ride, but I make certain to NOT overload. They are still 3,500 lb. axles, after all. :wink:


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On the side not recorded, the trailer had actually cut through the wires for lights AND trailer brakes! Spent 2 years fighting with the manufacturer to get this straightened out, ended up doing all the work myself so I'd trust it. They reimbursed me....but not for labor. :wink:

Oh, was also sold with a rim that was out-of-round! Had never actually seen that before.
 
(quoted from post at 16:18:48 02/20/18) A dolly would not have brakes. Towing a 7,000 pound tractor without brakes under the tractor would be risky unless you tow slowly near tractor speeds. How fast is road gear on that tractor? If your weather is good and you can stay on back roads, a 50 mile four hour tractor ride can be very pleasant.
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My MIL has a wide car dolly that they got to tow a Honda van behind the motor home. I believe it did have brakes. I would not put a 7K lb. tractor on it however!
 

I have read all of the responses and I don't see where anyone has asked what your truck is. I suspect that it is a half ton. If it is, it is highly unlikely that you could legally tow that 70 and an adequate trailer. If I were you I would be checking the tow capacity of the truck, and the load capacity of the trailer before making any plans to modify the trailer or otherwise getting the 70 onto it. Remember the question is not can you get it there? It is who is going to be living in your house next year?
 

carvel,
In your original post you listed the 7000gvw trailer as weighing 7000lbs WITHOUT tractor on it.
t
Thus the typo reasoning.
No big deal, carry on.
 
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