Greenismeen
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Looking at buying a ten shank chisel for my 4230 never ran one Didnt know if itd be too much for the ole girl Sandy ground for the most part some gravel
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I bought a brand new 4230 in the spring of 1977, and bought a new 10 shank pull type chisel plow the next year.
I could not pull it in B1 with the Quad Range transmission, nowhere deep enough to get the entire shovel in the ground.
I complained to the dealer that something must be wrong. They said I should have straight shanks instead of the wider curved shanks that came on it.
Switched them, still could not pull it.
Went back to dealer and complained more, they said not to use A4 or A3 as those were not for hard pulling.
They said the tractor was set up wrong, it had 18.4-38 tires, they said it should have had 34 inch tires, they said I effectively was in a "Higher Gear" all the time.
I reminded them that I had purchased the tractor off their lot, they had ordered it that way, it was not my choice.
Sorry, nothing they could do about it.
I had no liquid in the tires but did have 4 sets of rear weights. I did not have traction problems, just not enough power.
When I sold the chisel plow, it still looked like new.
I realize soil conditions are different, I was in the south tip of Fulton County in Central Illinois.
I could not pull it in B1 with the Quad Range transmission, nowhere deep enough to get the entire shovel in the ground.
I complained to the dealer that something must be wrong. They said I should have straight shanks instead of the wider curved shanks that came on it.
Switched them, still could not pull it.
Went back to dealer and complained more, they said not to use A4 or A3 as those were not for hard pulling.
They said the tractor was set up wrong, it had 18.4-38 tires, they said it should have had 34 inch tires, they said I effectively was in a "Higher Gear" all the time.
I reminded them that I had purchased the tractor off their lot, they had ordered it that way, it was not my choice.
Sorry, nothing they could do about it.
I had no liquid in the tires but did have 4 sets of rear weights. I did not have traction problems, just not enough power.
When I sold the chisel plow, it still looked like new.
I realize soil conditions are different, I was in the south tip of Fulton County in Central Illinois.
flying belgian
Well-known Member
We pulled 10 with our 4230 but it was to much. We had 38" rubber too. Never heard that A4-3 thing before.
rockyridgefarm
Well-known Member
I'm pessimistic, but maybe. My 4430 doesn't care too much for a 7 shank Glencoe disk chisel some days. If your 4230 can't go, you can make it an 8 shank with a wrench.
In the book that came with the 4230, the book that was about two inches thick, it said to never add weight to the tractor to pull a load in A4 that you could not pull in B1.
I had trouble precisely understanding that, so, I asked the dealer, they told me that the A ranges were for reducing ground speed where a high PTO speed was necessary, and to never use the A ranges for heavy tillage.
I am only repeating what they told me, I often wondered if there was anything to it, I never heard it anywhere else either.
I did some nighttime driving of a 4430 for a man near Streator, Illinois, in Livingston County, I think it was, it pulled a 10 shank mounted chisel plow in B2 most of the time, once in a while I had to shift to B1, but very seldom.
Different soil type, made all the difference in the world.
I had trouble precisely understanding that, so, I asked the dealer, they told me that the A ranges were for reducing ground speed where a high PTO speed was necessary, and to never use the A ranges for heavy tillage.
I am only repeating what they told me, I often wondered if there was anything to it, I never heard it anywhere else either.
I did some nighttime driving of a 4430 for a man near Streator, Illinois, in Livingston County, I think it was, it pulled a 10 shank mounted chisel plow in B2 most of the time, once in a while I had to shift to B1, but very seldom.
Different soil type, made all the difference in the world.
Texasmark1
Well-known Member
I had a 1979 4230DC, row crop, 2wd. awhile back. Ran a 11' with 14ea 10" sweeps in B2 and 3 in heavy clay. I liked the transmission in it as
I could hit the end of a row, kick the shift lever down in 2 with a flip of the wrist, lift the implement, stomp the brake, make the turn, drop
the implement, pop it back in 3, it gave me a little grunt and be back on track we were. Only reason I sold it was because I retired and
downsized from 100 hp PTO to 57.
It was my parade queen. Was completely cosmetically restored; running gear didn't need it as it only had 3900 hrs when I bought it, PO
used it for mowing. I put a 4"x3' chrome stack on that baby, covered it in flags and listened to that big diesel loap along as the parade
moved along. Got a lot of thumbs up.
I could hit the end of a row, kick the shift lever down in 2 with a flip of the wrist, lift the implement, stomp the brake, make the turn, drop
the implement, pop it back in 3, it gave me a little grunt and be back on track we were. Only reason I sold it was because I retired and
downsized from 100 hp PTO to 57.
It was my parade queen. Was completely cosmetically restored; running gear didn't need it as it only had 3900 hrs when I bought it, PO
used it for mowing. I put a 4"x3' chrome stack on that baby, covered it in flags and listened to that big diesel loap along as the parade
moved along. Got a lot of thumbs up.
Texasmark1
Well-known Member
My 4230 was naturally aspired with the 4430 at 125 hp, like a neighbor currently has, using the same engine just the added turbo. If you had turbo on yours, somebody must have made a 4430 out of it and in doing that probably had to change fan pulleys to get dual belts on the fan. No biggie as the exhaust manifold outlet on the 4230 was 4" to accommodate either option.
Greenismeen
New User
Thanks for all the input yall. I think Ill buy the ten shank and if its too much pull a couple off
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