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Goose

Goose

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Word came out today that our local McDonald's is closing. Inept management.

I haven't eaten in a McDonald's since 1986 when I got food poisoning from eating at McDonald's in Fort Morgan, Colorado. A few days later, I went to the doctor to see if he could give me something to pep me up. He started telling me what all McDonald's puts in their hamburger and I about got sick all over again in his office.
 
What are you talking about, "all that McDonald's puts into their hamburgers"? First of all, given all the study it takes to become a doctor, yours has time to research or investigate McDonald's practices? I find that hard to believe. Secondly, if their hamburgers were something other than they advertise, they would have been caught by someone somewhere in the past 62 years. If you are referring to the worm thing, how can no one notice the massive amounts of worms, or whatever other crap people claim they put in their product, that would be required to produce the more than 6 million hamburgers they sell daily? Wouldn't you think there would be a picture of a worm truck or of someone mixing the concoction? Granted, they may not produce the finest food in the town but to sell a McDouble, fry, and soda for under $3-$4, depending where you are in the US, and fulfilling the calories required to live per day, is an economic miracle.

I appreciate you may not care for them, but I cannot believe your charges against them.
 
JimS,

Maybe he was talking about other things like beef by products like tounges , hearts . If I look at a box of premade burgers at a store and it says that it contains beef hearts I don't buy them ! Only the ones that say just beef . I figure that if it doesn't say it and I don't know it then I'm fine. I also have heard about what supposedly goes into hot dogs and bologna ! Or maybe he was talking about all the preservatives ? I heard about people supposedly finding worms in their burgers but never really believed it . But, I'm with you it would be notice and brought to our attention if it was really true . Besides the Health Dept. would never allow it . We would all probably be surprised by what's really in our food . A lot of these rumors is also started by competition to turn customers away from a certain place ! You'd be surprised at what can also go on in the kitchens of restaurants . I know that as I have worked in a few years and years ago. I heard a saying that said that if you could see what goes on in a restaurants kitchen you'd never eat there . Like any other business anything to save and make a buck !


Whizkid
 
During the beef storage in the 80's,with mad cow disease, McDonald's found the they only had one pound of beef left so they could only make 6 million more burgers.

Kirk
 
I about never go to McDonald's don't care for their food but if there was all that much going on with their food it'd be all over everywhere,which it isn't.Like Walmart
they are subject to a lot of internet garbage that isn't true.
 
Not saying you didn't get sick from an isolated incident,but what does your doctor know about what they put in their food? Where did he get his information? Just think about the total volume of food they sell worldwide every day and how few reports of illness that you hear of originating from their restaurants. I can tell you from my days in the milk co-op,the buyers from McDonalds are more fussy than any other buyers in the industry. MMPA tried,and eventually succeeded,in selling them cheese. It was a tough sell.
 

It is not at all unusual for people to say things that they have no way of substantiating, just to show their cynicism. In this case everybody knows how heavily regulated all food prep operations are. Just ten years or so ago the feds enacted new rules that enhanced sanitation on ANY business that grinds beef. It was good for some guys that I work with that supply the cleaners to the red meat plants. Restaurants in most areas are inspected regularly too. I am in and out of restaurant kitchens all the time, and have been for over 45 years. Most are very clean some aren't. One time a state inspector had a tough time getting the attention of the owners of a Chinese restaurant so he started making weekly inspections until they got with the program. In many locations the inspection results are published in the paper. You can google "warewash" or any of many sanitation terms for a given area and inspection reports come up. Yup, an unsanitary restaurant is unusual, and if the inspectors don't get them bad press will.
 
Why would anyone celebrate about a bunch of people in low skilled jobs becoming unemployed? McDonald?s may not be everyone?s choice, but they give young people a first job, older people a last job, and others who just can?t find a job that fits them.
 
I don't disagree bad things can happen but I wanted to share this:

Here in Western WI we have a Franchise owner who sure seems to do a good job. He owns many stores and they are all consistently good. I have stopped at other McDonalds when I travel and I do notice differences occasionally but it is usually in the area of consistency.

I agree with the comment about jobs for young and old, and in-between. I wanted to share my daughter worked at a McDonalds through College and it was a great great experience for her. She learned a lot and was quickly promoted to manager. She learned how to train and manage people, deal with the public, leaned business practices, and so much more. She participated in their matching dollars for College, a great program.

When she graduated interviewers would sometimes scoff at, or laugh at, not respect, her McDonalds experience. That was sad and pretty telling about the interviewer. While she never walked out of an interview I think she wanted to.

There is an ad on TV about a gal in college talking about her McDonalds experience, her participating in the matching dollars for College, etc. It is a great ad and all true.

Because my daughter worked at McDonalds many of our close friends got their kids involved at McDonalds. Similar experiences.

I just wanted to share my thoughts because my daughters experience was so positive.

Paul
 
(quoted from post at 01:07:43 12/18/17) Word came out today that our local McDonald's is closing. Inept management.

I haven't eaten in a McDonald's since 1986 when I got food poisoning from eating at McDonald's in Fort Morgan, Colorado. A few days later, I went to the doctor to see if he could give me something to pep me up. He started telling me what all McDonald's puts in their hamburger and I about got sick all over again in his office.
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There is a lot of inept management in the chains, but it sounds like your doctor is an inept scumbag. Remember that the student at the very bottom of the class in medical school is called "doctor."
 
So true. Hearts, kidneys, livers and lungs, are ALL part of Beef. Even the 'trimmings' that are called "Pink Slime" because of its appearance is still Beef. Ground venison would be so dry if not for the Pork added.
 
Everyone has taken the stance that all of the employees at this McDonald's were hard-working, dedicated, sincere employees concerned about the customers.

The flip side is, my wife ate at this McDonald's frequently until she was totally turned off by rude, obnoxious, and inept employees who were basically unemployable anywhere else. It was the employees who brought this place down as much as management. One gal who worked there would bring her 4 year old brat along to work with her and he would run rampant harassing customers for her entire shift. An employee who told customers they would have to clean up after themselves when they left. Chairs put up on tables an hour or more before closing and customers being told they can't take the chairs back down even though there was no where else to sit. And on and on.

Word gets around in a small town and honest, hardworking, and proficient employees will not work for an inept manager, so the manager gets the bottom tier employees who do as much to drive customers off as to attract them.
 
Our local McDS are as good as that , great starter jobs for the naive kids that havent got a clue ,,. if Mcds can keep them 30 days and teach them something without firing them 1st,,. Society mite find they have a little more help to the good side .cynical people are on the rise since their man did not get to be POTUS .,. abuses and half truthes are being spouted with no basis at at all ,,. Just opinions.
 
That would drive me right out the door in a hurry. I could write a book about people bringing kids to meetings and letting them run around like a bunch of wild Indians,crying babies that stink to high Heaven with full diapers.....you name it. Bad enough if it was a customer's kid,but a manager's? Totally unacceptable.
 
Saturday may be the last visit my family makes to MCD. There were customers waiting when we walked in, drive thru lined up- all the way around the building. Order taker errored on the order. Stood waiting for a good ten minutes for order, and then it was missing a major item. Order fillers were wandering around like lost zombies, unable to load trays and bags. There was a large college graduation in town, and would seem that it would have been good to call in a little extra help. Parking lot was 3-4 inches of slush. Just not a good experience. Went to their feedback website and dumped on them. We'll see if they respond.
 
Thank goodness for those Mc Donalds restaurants. They let us travelers use their restrooms which are usually very clean and they offer some good tasting food that they will wrap for you to carry out and enjoy on the road. Sorry that you had a bad experience with them one time but that could happen at even a high priced restaurant. Your Dr. probably relied on getting cheap foods when he was a student and now shows his/her gratitude by knocking them. Maybe that Dr. even worked there to help with his education costs?
 
I am not going to say Mcdees is my first choice for eating out, but I will say I am very greatfull they are what they are. I can not count how many times my wife and I have each baled hay up to, or even after dark to beat the rain,Only to realize there is a house full of hungry kids and nothing quick to make. Or a breakfast while we drive delivering a load of cattle early in the AM 200 miles from home. I also was able to pull into Donalds and sleep in their parking lot many times while out with the semi. Not the best food but good enough to make due. Al
 
You describe the restaurant as over whelmed with the weather and crowded with college students. That would have be a good time to show a little patience. Then you complain to the headquarters? How very compassionate of you. TDF
 
. "It was the employees who brought this place down as much as management." No, it was the management for not managing.
 
In my old town McDonalds went out of business. Funny thing another hamburger chain called Mooyah opened in that location . A Mooyah burger was better.
 
Probably goes back to District Management for not being on top of the local situation.

Once upon a time, our daughter was a store manager for Blockbuster Video. The District Manager himself was in trouble and tried to blame his failings on local store managers. Daughter told them to stick it and got into real estate.

But--Blockbuster is history, now.
 
I would rather have low tier employees working at McDonald?s than stealing from me or sponging off welfare... If their service is sub standard, don?t go there, pretty simple...
 
Sounds like Wendy's in Greenville on any given day. One register open,customers backed up to the door,nobody in a hurry. I love their chili,but some days I have to wonder if it's worth the wait.
 
Goose I'm going to stick up for your doctor though I have never met him. A family practitioner treats lots of patients in a day's time and he or she quickly gets a pretty good idea on where the sick ones are coming from. Maybe he did research McDonalds because of a large number of sick patients coming in claiming McDonalds made them sick. I suspect the McDonalds you ate at was an isolated case. It could be some prepared pre-cooked food they received off the truck was contaminated before it came to this local restaurant. I cant eat fast food, it contains wheat and gluten that upsets me but I do have a weakness for a McDonalds strawberry shake.

My daughter worked at a McDonalds over twenty years ago and she told us not to eat at McDonalds after what she saw going on in the kitchen. But this was one local McDonalds. One time I stopped at a McDonalds for a shake and when I was waiting in line I noticed one of the food handlers had a cold and was wiping her nose on her sleeve. Needless to say I didn't gat my shake at that place!
 
I never had problems at McD but at other chains. but that other chain was only the one place, rest have been good.
 
I travel a lot and eat at fast food places and gas stations - never had an issue with food. Last winter I took the family skiing at Cooper mountain in Colorado and stayed in Leadville Colorado and ate at Quincy's Steakhouse - supposedly a nice place to eat there. I should say I ate part of a meal there - thank God I didn't eat the whole thing. My 5 year old son had a small part of my prime rib before I had a chance to sample it - we both spent the next two days of our ski trip in our hotel room because we didn't dare get more than 20 feet from a bathroom - much less go to the top of a mountain.
 
Wow, it looks like I stirred up a real hornet's nest, pro and con.

Coupla points. Last evening, one of my wife's girl friends (who also worked at a McD in Chicago when she was in college) told of once she ordered a Big Mac at the drive through at this location. When she got home and opened it, she found it was missing most of the condiments. When she called the manager, he said they were out of them. So, why wasn't she advised of that and asked if she wanted something else? The manager had no answer and didn't even offer a refund.

A few years after my negative experience in Fort Morgan, I worked with a fellow from Colorado. He said Fort Morgan was about the right spot for a "pit stop" when he went home. He added he quit stopping at the McD in Fort Morgan because the food always tasted different than at other McDonalds.

Actually on the stop in Fort Morgan, it was my brother-in-law "Ed", his daughter "Kim", and I. I had a Big Mac, Ed had a Quarter Pounder, and Kim, being a figure conscious 19 year old at the time, had a plain hamburger with no condiments. Ed and I got sick, Kim didn't. Must have been something common to the Big Macs and Quarter Pounders.
 
Also I hope none of our about a half dozen McDonalds close it'd just make the restaurants I go to more crowded which would bring about a zillion more snotty nose kids with them.
 
Here in Iowa they are remodeling the McD's. The new touch screen order board is not to my liking. I'll go somewhere else.
 
I suppose you or your kids never had snot dripping out of your/their nose ..... of course not. Probably didn't crap yer drawers ever .... good boy !!!
 
Goose ..... make sure those condiments (or whatever they call those things guys used to carry in their wallets) aren't used ones. They can affect the taste of a burger, no question about it.
 
When we were growing up us kids behaved in public or else and or else meant serious business.Many kids now act,really not act are basically wild animals in public and I guess at home too.
So when I go to a nice restaurant and pay good money I'm not interested in being around them,McDonald's,Cicis and other places catered to them.
 
Can?t agree more with ya on that kids will be kids but good parents keep em under control when they are in public
 
I've just about stopped eating fast food. But when I do stop for fast food McDonald’s is not on my list at all. I just don't care for their food. I'd rather pay a couple more bucks and get a decent meal.

As far as smelly kids with shot running down their faces? They don't belong in the workplace unless a customer brings their kids. If you work any number of jobs, loan officer, car sales ECT customers are going to bring kids in, deal with it!

In my opinion people sticking up for people working what jobs they can land, be it a teen starting out, kid in college, the elderly or someone just doing the best they can is great! Where were you when call centers across the US, that paid a decent wage, shut down because we didn't like em calling? I know they were a PITA but they paid well, enough that most workers didn't qualify for "assistance". I know something about this because I know several people who lost jobs over the "no call list". No, I'm not going to cut them slack either. Most of them were people who refused to go to school to learn a trade or earn a degree. Then would up married with kids. But they were making it. Of the ones I know one went back to school. The others are at Walmart or learned how to say "do you want to super size that".....drawing public "assistance".

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 06:07:43 12/18/17) Word came out today that our local McDonald's is closing. Inept management.
He started telling me what all McDonald's puts in their hamburger and I about got sick all over again in his office.
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I call baloney on your statement. I worked for a short time for the company that supplied hamburger for Wendy's. Lean beef and enough fat to make it an exact fat to lean ratio to Wendy's specs. That was it, no tongue, no lips, no hearts. Measured it with some sort of precision device that was very expensive and operated by the foreman only. Every batch was measured. Every batch had to be within a very small range. We ground one day and delivered the next, it was never frozen and never held more than 12 hrs. at the plant. McD's would not have been different, it's a cutthroat business and taste and quality of the product is all important. They wouldn't let Wendy's have a higher quality burger.
 
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