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OliverKid26

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Hey guys looking for some advice.

I am looking to buy a 3/4 ton truck as a second vehicle. It would likely get 5,000 to 10,000 miles a year. I would use the truck as a farm truck hauling wagons, etc, but would also like to be able to haul my Oliver tractor that weighs about 9500 pounds to shows, parades, plow days, etc. My question is, will a 3/4 gas truck be able to haul this on a fifth wheel trailer? I don't want to beat on the truck too bad. Would I be much better off with a diesel? Interested in your guys thoughts. I know the gas trucks are much cheaper to maintain, but the diesels hold their value better, haul better, and last longer.

Wondering if I should go gas or diesel. Would prefer to get a Dodge that is a few years old regardless of if I buy gas or diesel.
 
So I can haul a 9500 pound tractor on a 5th wheel with a gasser and be ok? I won't be hauling in mountains just small hills and mostly flat ground.
 
Sure, twenty years ago half of the semi grain haulers were still gas. My 96 Chevy and camper gross out at 13,500#, with a 350 gas and automatic transmission.
 
A good 3/4 ton truck and a gooseneck trailer will be just fine. I have a diesel now, but I had a ford V10 and a Ford with a 460 and they did good. For local hauling about any engine will get the job done, safely, just not as fast.
 
I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 with the 5.7 hemi auto that I pull a 25 ft. goose neck and have hauled a 1655 oliver, 1855 oliver, and 1950 oliver and it works ok. Just one at a time. LOL
 
I have a V10 Ford. Haul 2 tractors around to the pulls all summer long. 28000 gross. Get 1 mpg less than the previous diesel.
 
That is really good to know. I am leaning towards the gasser now after hearing that. How bad is the milage hauling? I am guessing it gets down in the 7-10 range when hauling a tractor?
 
I pull a 25ft 14,000lb trailer with that much weight, or more, and have no issues at all. Chevrolet 2500 with a 6.0 liter gas engine. I don't win races, but have pulled that much weight 300+ miles at a time on numerous occasions. No problems.
 
A gas will do fine. I have a 3/4 ton and use a goose neck trailer. Usually up to about 12000lbs on the deck. It does fine, doesn't accelerate as fast as a diesel and you feel the hills a bit more but after a string of diesels new and old I'm happy with the gas truck. The first time you have to put a set of injectors or other major repair on an electronic diesel it'll suck up more than you'll save in fuel. Best of luck, Sam
 

I think 4play put it about as good as it could be put in another post about would you buy a gas a diesel truck. About all I can add to that is if you are not willing to spend 5K on it don't buy it no matter what reputation the combination is...

Most all modern 3/4 ton trucks will get'er done as long as its powered well...
 
Honestly, I don't know. My guess is it is based upon the gvw of the tow vehicle. I have hauled tractors in the 10,000lb range on several occasions, state and interstate highways, with no issues from any law enforcement personnel. Was I truly legal? I don't honestly know.
 
For those few miles a year go gas. Emissions are coming down harder all the time on diesels and making them more complicated all the time. Between that and better gas engines and higher price of diesel I truely think the "glory days" of diesels are behind us . just my two cents. Sod buster.
 
For that few miles I?d buy a gas. I run a bunch of pickups on trailers and all are gas. We pull anywhere from 8 to 16,000# including the trailers everyday. GM trucks and 5.7?s,6.0?s and 8.1?s. Higher price of diesel, price of the truck and repair costs are tough to justify for me at least. Mine always start when it?s -15 also to push snow
 
There is no legal limit. As long as the trailer has sufficient brakes to stop it, what you pull with it is your decision.

The truck mfg will have the load and tow rating available. Probably find out using the VIN. Now that is based on what they think the truck can safely be used for, on a regular basis, without harming the vehicle.

You can somewhat exceed what they recommend, if done occasionally, and common sense is used.
 
I use a 1980 Chevy heavy half to haul tractors. A few month back I hauled home an IH584 with loader. I do not know how heavy it was but I know I was over loaded. My 7000lbs winch could not pull it on the trailer and it took another tractor with loader to push it on. Trailer brakes where not working either which did not help me any. But I got it home safely because I did not try to brake any speed records and took it nice and slow
 
I would stay with gas unless you know how to work on diesel and do some of your servicing. A 3/4 ton and trailer with good brakes should work fine. I pull a 24 FT. 14,000 lb. deck over that weighs 4,200 lbs. with a 97 GMC K1500, 5.7 Vortec V8 with air bags on rear axle. I haul one of two tractors. Allis Chalmers WD 45 weighing 6,000 lbs. and IH 450 weighing 8,000 lbs.
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The question you really want to ask "when do I need to have a CDL?" Weight and length. My 2004 Chevy 2500HD with Duramax weighs empty real close to 6000lb then pull a 4000lb empty trailer and add your tractor weight. When you hit 29000 total weight you need a CDL. Also there is a combined length limit, but weight will get you first.
The new 3/4 ton trucks are rated at pretty high towing weights.
 
(quoted from post at 09:41:52 12/08/17) The question you really want to ask "when do I need to have a CDL?" Weight and length. My 2004 Chevy 2500HD with Duramax weighs empty real close to 6000lb then pull a 4000lb empty trailer and add your tractor weight. When you hit 29000 total weight you need a CDL. Also there is a combined length limit, but weight will get you first.
The new 3/4 ton trucks are rated at pretty high towing weights.
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No, no, no, no, NO!!! First off the what the vehicle weighs has nothing to do with a CDL. It's the GVWR of the vehicle(s) that matters. Go to your states DMV laws and look up the criteria involved. Never, ever take advice on what is or isn't legal on an internet chat site!
 
(quoted from post at 23:00:17 12/07/17) What is the most that can be hauled legally with a 3/4 ton truck?
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That is going to depend on the truck, the trailer and your states laws and rules regarding same. You need to talk to your DMV to get the facts, and get it in writing so you can review it rather than relying on memory.

Beyond that, for occasional hauling, gas is fine. Lots less expensive to buy and maintain. FWIW, my 1 ton Ford gasser gets about 9-10mpg empty and about 7 loaded, sometimes less on the hills.
 
Actual weight has nothing to do with CDL requirements - it is the GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING from the manufacturer.

1.A Class A CDL License is required when the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Ratings (GCVWR) of the truck and trailer totals 26,001 or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

2.A Class B CDL License is required for any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

3. A Class C CDL License is required for any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials.


One of the most misunderstood parts of the above requirements has to do with trailers with a GVWR in excess of 10,000 pounds when the combined GVWR does not exceed 26,000 pounds. In this case a CDL is NOT required provided you are not placarded for hazardous materials. However individual states may impose a requirement that drivers in their states must have a CDL in this situation so you need to check the requirements in your state. It is also important to note that individual state CDL licensing requirements CAN NOT be applied to drivers from other states.

I don't know where you came up with 29,000 pounds.
 
I haul the 4020 & plow with this 1979 F-350 that has a 351M (no ball of fire). Might take a little longer to get up to speed or make a hill but sure cheaper than a diesel or a newer truck for the limited use I have. Bought the truck from the original owner about 3 years ago and it only had 15,000 miles on it.
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How are the brakes on that 1979 F350 ? I have a 1981 F350 had it since 1985 ? they never were as good as I think they should be. Had to cram them on hard and fast the other day and they were slow reacting. Ours had a 351M 2 bbl and single ex. Would hardly go over 50-55 mph empty up a grade ! Put a 4bbl. and dual ex. on it and an edelbrock performer cam and that woke it up pretty good. It didn't like being ran up too high of RPM though as just when it really sounded good and pulled hard it would float the valves and bend push rods. At least that's what I think happened ? You could only buy 1 strength of push rods for them at least back then. I ended up putting a 460 in there with the exact same 4 bbl. carb transferred over. I actually gained 1 mpg when pulling the trailer ! The 460 just runs so much better !
 

My 97 has the 351 too. It's not what I'd buy if I was hauling heavy all the time, but for what I do with it, it's fine. There are days a 460 would sure make life a little easier though!
 
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