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Help choosing a tractor - only important thing is live PTO

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fredharts

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I posted a while back saying I wanted a 660 or 860. I found an 860 2 hours West that is a real bargain, but smokes pretty good. But the price they wanted was good for what could be a parts tractor. But 660s and 860s somewhat close in okay shape are kind of hard to find. So I want to expand my options.

I don't need anything fancy, and would prefer something that isn't huge. I am currently borrowing my father's 8N I just wish it had a live PTO. Power steering isn't a must but it would be a nice plus.

I have 3 acres with 23 pecan trees. I want a tractor to mow the back pasture, till / disc garden, and to drag behind a pecan picker upper.

I was thinking maybe just getting a compact tractor so I can maneuver around yard up by house but decided I'd rather not go that route.

Looking for any and all suggestions. Doesn't have to be fancy. Just needs to be able to pull a 5 - 6 ft finish mower and the other stuff mentioned. Maybe an old JD or something simple and be cat 1.

Thanks.

I am in Tulsa, OK and willing to travel about 2 hours and pay up to 3k. (Preferably closer to 2500) A fixer upper is no problem, just don't want something totally worn out.
 
You dont need live pto for a finish nower there are lots of small tractors for sale with mounted belley mowers at good prices and would work just fine.
 

A Kioti CK-35 would fill the bill. Good tractors but 'way cheaper than green.
 
Unless you're going to move all the way up to a 20 series Deere,like a 1020 or 2020,I'd put the whole notion of a Deere utility out of my head right now. They were darned nice little tractors,but everything before that was an embarrassment to the brand.
 

It was just a good deal for the shape of it. I saw a super nice 850 that came with a brush hog. i could easily talk the guy down. I decided to save a little more. So I'll pull the trigger about Feb. Still want recommendations though.

I realized my last comment seemed rude. I just meant, I would prefer a pull behind finish mower over a belly mower.
 
I know it isn't live PTO but this is pretty nice.

https://tulsa.craigslist.org/grd/d/ford-850-tractor-price-reduced/6402625991.html
 
I would steer you toward a Ford 3000.
Not much bigger than an N but a lot more
features. But why is live pto so important
to you? For most tasks transmission pto
does just fine. If I had to choose I would
take power steering over live pto any day.
 
Remember with the belley mower you always have the drawbar open for pulling things around and the mower is always ready to use ive been mowing more area than you for many yrs with a B
 
Gene , you are the exception 90% of the folks want live power on a finish mower tractor. they just can,t stand the implement stopping when they mash the clutch or at least that is the way it is around here.. Been selling tractors 30+ years. A tractor without live pto will just not sell whatever the price.
 

I know it's silly, I'd just prefer it for mowing and brush hogging.

Thanks everyone for all the posts so far.
 

Usually it would have an independent clutch if it had live PTO I thought. Pretty sure 850 was a 4 speed.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/2/4/240-ford-850.html
 
You might want to look at an Oliver 55 or 550, they were built in response to the Ford utility tractors. Liver power, live hydraulics, 6
speed tranny, 3 point hitch are standard, power steering was an option. Should be in the 2000 to 3000 range.

Rich
 

850 is a 5 spd
860 is 5 spd with live pto
I like power steering but don't want another mower tractor without live pto.

Like Ultradog I recommend looking at a 3000.
 
I'm not far from you (Catoosa), 3000's show up on the Tulsa CL pretty often and 8 speed live PTO and power steering are pretty common. I have a 3000 and a 3600, both came from CL. Either one would do what you are asking. Fairly easy to work on and parts are not hard to find. Just be prepared to pay ~$4000 for one that doesn't need very much work and ~$3000 for one with a clutch or lift problem.

If you want and have a morning free on a half way decent day you could come out and I could show you my two tractors and tell you what to look out for when you go look at a potential purchase.
 
I have an 861 Ford with live pto and power steering and around 45 hp. Very durable and easy to find parts. Those usually run in the $2500 - $4000 range. An 861 would do what you need it to do.
 
(quoted from post at 19:13:13 11/28/17) I have an 861 Ford with live pto and power steering and around 45 hp. Very durable and easy to find parts. Those usually run in the $2500 - $4000 range. An 861 would do what you need it to do.
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Thats what I want. 860 model of some kind if I can find one.
 

660s and 860s are so popular that they will keep coming up every week within 100 miles of you. 661 and 861 will work even better. Just keep looking.
 
I would recommend crossing the Deere 2020 off the list. They're okay tractors as long as they don't break. When they break parts are uber-expensive and uber-difficult to find. My uncle had to junk his 2020 when one little thing in the transmission broke. The fix was more than the tractor was worth, IF you could find parts!
 

JD 2020 is fine . It is the diesel 1010 and any 2010 that should be avoided . Unless you have deep pockets, a well equipped shop, plenty of mechanical skill and much patience .
 

I'm not a Deere man but if I had to get one I'd step up to a --30 series, friend has one that's been a real good tractor, after that I like the --55 series
 
(quoted from post at 15:39:20 11/29/17) I would recommend crossing the Deere 2020 off the list. They're okay tractors as long as they don't break. When they break parts are uber-expensive and uber-difficult to find. My uncle had to junk his 2020 when one little thing in the transmission broke. The fix was more than the tractor was worth, IF you could find parts!
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I wonder what part in trans broke that was so expensive? Any repair at dealership of especially older equipment is expensive because most technicians are not familiar with the older models so labor is very high.
 
(quoted from post at 07:06:12 11/30/17)
I’ll give you that, the 50 and 55 series are superior .
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Around here the 50 series had a pretty bad rep.
Several that bought new 2950's had hyd leakage problems that even the dealers couldn't keep fixed.
A friend still has one but it's at the dealer every year for oil leaks and usually doesn't make it thru the year before another leak starts somewhere.
I would have traded it off years ago.
 

Sounds like the shop is treating the symptoms rather than the cause . Should have been repaired correctly the first time . Then again more money in repeat repairs .
 
I know you guys like your Olivers. The problem here is as far as the utilities go there just are none. Kinda like finding hens teeth. When you do find one they are spendy because most of the owners know there are few around and charge accordingly. Not very many row crop Olivers either. From what I know they are good solid tractor.

As far as rear VS mounted mower? I too prefer a 3 point hitch rear mower. Mid mount limits what you can do with the tractor without having to dismount the deck (a pain to me). I can drop a PTO shaft and put 3 pins quick. Mid mount and you limit yourself as to where you can take the tractor. I'd love to watch you go through my woods with a tractor and a mid mount! Ain't no trails.

I'm looking for a deal on a newer utility. No big rush on my part. I want IPTO, 3 point and power steering.

Rick
 
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