Anybody have any experience getting a title for a barn vehicle? Specifically Indiana? I recently bought a 49 Willys truck, last registered in '68, from a fellow in Wisconsin. I contacted the BMV head branch about the issue before the deal was made to see what it involved. I was told by the BMV all I needed was a bill of sale with both our names, VIN, and price. As long as the truck was valued less than $5K, the state would issue a title after it passes a background stolen vehicle check. When I went to my local BMV to start the process, they told me they can't do anything because the price on the bill of sale does not matter a hill of beans, they determine the value. What does the great state of confusion value a '49 Willys at, you ask? $17,500!!!! I asked how to get my payout check and where the state wanted it delivered! She told me it now will involve the courts. Anybody been through this, in Indiana?
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Gambles
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First, I want to emphasize that I'm not in Indiana. But a couple of months ago, I purchased a pickup that had been in storage locker for full 10 years. Storage owner had only owned the locker for a couple of years, but wanted it out. He told me the engine was bad. (If the vehicle had no keys and he never started it, how did he know the engine was bad?) He also sold it to me for $200. Was going to use all the good parts (seat, bumper, bed) on an identical truck that I own, but this truck was too good to strip. Since truck had no keys, I replaced the tumbler, installed a new fuel filter, added 10 gallons of gas, threw in a battery and it took right off. Currently in the process of getting a title for it. All I have to do is run two ads in a newspaper that say the truck will be auctioned off at such-and-such a date. The auction can start at $10K if I want. Then I send the paperwork into the state DMV and wait for the title.
Good luck with the DMV in Indiana.
Good luck with the DMV in Indiana.
I have found that what the head branch says don't mean squat. It's whatever the local branch says that goes. When my oldest got his license I was told one thing by the head branch and three other things by the local branch. As far as the documentation that I needed. I think we made 3 or 4 trips back and forth. It's a wonder I didn't get hauled away by the police. I was not happy
Goose
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When I was in high school here in Nebraska, I owned a '36 Ford pickup. Nothing special, just an old pickup that got parked when I joined the Marine Corps. When I was in the Corps, a neighbor did some custom farm work for my father and when they settled up the pickup went to the neighbor, with no title.
Twenty years later, after my father was dead, someone wanted to buy the pickup from the neighbor, and wanted a title with it. There was a definite process to resurrect the title but it was complicated by the fact that the buyer's wife worked for DMV and said there was a shortcut she could take. I insisted on going the legal route. It involved my mother signing some paperwork, etc., but the title was reclaimed.
Twenty years later, after my father was dead, someone wanted to buy the pickup from the neighbor, and wanted a title with it. There was a definite process to resurrect the title but it was complicated by the fact that the buyer's wife worked for DMV and said there was a shortcut she could take. I insisted on going the legal route. It involved my mother signing some paperwork, etc., but the title was reclaimed.
PaGlenn
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I would go to the end of the earth if the barn vehicle was an early Indian or HD motorcycle.
wjytexas
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About 10 years ago my son bought an unregistered '65 GTO out of a pasture. He got it running and went to DMV (Texas). It would have been easy but a bank had a lien on and that bank had folded. He was discussing the issue with an older neighbor and that guy had banked with the defunct bank and told him who bought the assets. Eventually he found the right contact with the bank and got the lien released and got his title. Persistence paid off.
Spend some money and speak to an attorney about this. Every state has different things you need to do to get another title. In some state you need to have the sheriff have an auction where you buy it. Then you get a clear/new title.
I will also say that different DMVs tell you different things. Here you have to have titles done in the county you live in.
I have an old Ford Ranger that the title was signed but never transferred. It would cost more than the truck is worth to get a clean title for it. I would have to get the title transferred to the fellow I bought it from and then transfer it to me. Also pay all the annual license fees from then to now. That totals up to around $600. The truck is only worth maybe a few hundred.
I will also say that different DMVs tell you different things. Here you have to have titles done in the county you live in.
I have an old Ford Ranger that the title was signed but never transferred. It would cost more than the truck is worth to get a clean title for it. I would have to get the title transferred to the fellow I bought it from and then transfer it to me. Also pay all the annual license fees from then to now. That totals up to around $600. The truck is only worth maybe a few hundred.
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Know anyone that runs a salvage yard they can get titles pretty easy.
dr sportster
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See if your state accepts titles from a title service. You sell them the vehicle for one dollar they title it in their state then sell it back to you for 101 dollars. Not all states allow their use. The title service website will tell you if you can do it in Indiana.
PaGlenn
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- New Milford Penna
That was the case with me. I went to NJ DMV with a camper trailer title. One clerk could do nothing. Went to another clerk and she said 'No problemo'
buickanddeere
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Same here . For anything more than a basic renewal of an existing plate on an existing vehicle . We drive to one of the adjacent towns for service . The one crazy old bat make a up rules as she sees fit . I made the mistake of attempting to plate a snowmobile that was purchased without registration. It required numerous trips back to the office and different forms with each visit .
Ted in NE-OH
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Try another BMV office the value is subjective and you might find a friendly person.
Could check the paperwork for wisconsin and get replacement title from wisconsin DOT. Bill of sale, old registration, engine number check since about that time they were using engine numbers, engine tags for titles, registrations. Dodge Van replacement and transfer title in Wisconsin was about $20.00 over regular titled transfer- signed form from executor of estate and last registration, bill of sale and MV1 for new title and plates, 20 minutes at DOT counter got a 'Virtual Replacement Title number' that went on MV1 form for plates aqnd paper to walk out door. Wisconsin salvage, home builts, glider kits for rollover trucks, hot rod resurrections forms to cover most situations- pay the fees and maybe sales tax, get title alone or plates as well. Does require a vehicle inspection many times and a record check for liens and stolen reports- but if bill of sale and old registration match previous owner or heir, might be easier to get wisconsin paperwork. Doubtful if old registration is online now- 5 to 7 years before purge, then it is $25.00 to $25.00/hour for manual search of old fiche records. RN
leroy in ne
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- Sterling, Nebraska
did a quick check. you said last lisc. in 1968. suggest you do a search for ( lost vehicle title what ever state last lisc. was in) such as wisconsin lost vehicle title, that should allow you to get a duplicate title for the vehicle that can be transferred by whoever last legally owned it. you will probably need the plate info and the county it was lisc., in also serial number. hopefully it is the person you purchased it from. if this works then you would apply for a title where you reside. hope this gives you some place to start. leroy
steve terplak
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First, and only time, Primus has been, or will be, mentioned on YT.
Still kinda laughing...
Still kinda laughing...
I can't help with your state, my experience was buying a 74, 914 Porsche in Indiana and driving it back to Louisiana.
I went to DMV and had the bill of sale, title, and the advertisement of the sale price. At first, they looked it up, this is at a small DMV in Natchitoches, and said I needed to pay the tax on 22k. I kinda laughed. Showed them the bill of sale and a copy of the advertised price. They eventually agreed to the BOS price.
I went to DMV and had the bill of sale, title, and the advertisement of the sale price. At first, they looked it up, this is at a small DMV in Natchitoches, and said I needed to pay the tax on 22k. I kinda laughed. Showed them the bill of sale and a copy of the advertised price. They eventually agreed to the BOS price.
steve terplak
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Crazy Horse
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Jocco .....are you serious? Just run down to the corner car lot and buy a '49 Willys truck? That's a good one I must admit !!!
fixerupper
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Like others said try another BMV. Our local DMV in my county in Iowa used to be run by an old battle axe who was very hard to get along with. She would say "you need this and this first" and then turn and walk away leaving you stand there. Getting an attorney won't hurt either.
RedMF40
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I bought an old vehicle with no title long ago. At that time there was a "title service" company that would procure a new title for a fee. I believe state of Alabama was involved. After filling out their paperwork and paying their fee, the new owner would receive an Alabama title or something along those lines, then apply for a title in their home state. I was young and poor and never pursued it as the title service fee was probably more than the vehicle was worth.
I will look into some of these suggestions. Also found out the lady my son has mowed grass foralm year works at a different BMV branch than the one in question. Wish I could just buy a parts truck with a title, but while this one is rough, it is complete and unmolested, very unusual for these trucks. I also gave half for this one than rot box parts trucks bring.
huntingreen2day2
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Taxes, taxes, taxes that is what it is all about. I just recently bought a 93 Mustang drag race car and I wanted it titled in my name. Boulght it in Ohio and I wanted it titled in Tn. In order to get a Tn title required that I put plates on it and pay the local wheel tax. Also had to pay the book value sales tax. Now this was a car that is a pure race car and never would be a street legal car. What I wound up doing was transferring the plates off a pickup truck onto the race car on Friday afternoon to get the title and on Monday transferred them back to the truck. Their book value on the Mustang was a whole lot less than I gave for the car.
Crazy Horse
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Well you're right about that but finding a 49 Willys might be a bit of a problem, and if you did find one it'd probably be 3000 miles from home, that was the point I tried to make. If you could find one though, not a bad idea. All this stuff about titling etc is sort of news to me, never heard much of a fuss about it up here so I'm not sure how it all works.
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