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37chief

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Doing a brake job on my E 450 motorhome chassis. I ordered what I thought were US made products. Raybestos "O" ring, and dust boot kit for my calipers. A/C Delco Brake caliper wedges. (For a better name, that's what I call them)These are Stainless Steel rails that the caliper slides on, pounded in. All parts made in China. I should have just gone to Pep Boy's. One good thing, at 75 I won't have to be doing this too many more years. Stan
 
A lot of Delco parts are Chinese.

Chances are you got quality parts. China can make anything any way it is ordered.

Order quality, and pay for it, you get quality.

Order junk, cut costs, get junk.

Hopefully the parts are the same as what goes on at the factory.
 
A friend who deals with China would add

Order quality, and pay for it, but don't check regularly you will likely get junk.
 
Frustrating to pay North American made prices for Chinese stuff. When Campbell Hausfeld closed out their all steel made in USA retracting hose reels 4 or 5 years ago I bought 3 at 70$ each, the regular price was about 120$. The next year the Chinese models arrived with a bunch of plastic and 20% more expensive. Why couldn?t they keep the good model at 20% more expensive?
 
(quoted from post at 15:05:40 10/16/17) Frustrating to pay North American made prices for Chinese stuff. When Campbell Hausfeld closed out their all steel made in USA retracting hose reels 4 or 5 years ago I bought 3 at 70$ each, the regular price was about 120$. The next year the Chinese models arrived with a bunch of plastic and 20% more expensive. Why couldn?t they keep the good model at 20% more expensive?
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Greed.
 
I think you pretty much nailed it. Toyo 11R-24.5s cost $435 each, and they say "made in China". Toyo's reputation is on the line, their quality control will be strict on their out-sourcing .
 
37 Chief ............. I did not mean to interrupt your post but here goes.
Recently, I think, I seen a post on YT that you had a Tumble Bug Scraper for sale or ??
Please call me At 2094839000 or email me. Thanks
 
You mean to say the Chinese would try to slip one past an American? You shameless, imperialist running dog...LOL. The worst is yet to come I fear.
 
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(quoted from post at 15:05:40 10/16/17) Frustrating to pay North American made prices for Chinese stuff. When Campbell Hausfeld closed out their all steel made in USA retracting hose reels 4 or 5 years ago I bought 3 at 70$ each, the regular price was about 120$. The next year the Chinese models arrived with a bunch of plastic and 20% more expensive. Why couldn?t they keep the good model at 20% more expensive?
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Greed.
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I agree: Greed, aka: Globalization! :evil:
 
Bingo, WGM, if customers (not all customers are consumers) were willing to pay for quality made products, the market would supply same.

Dean
 
You nailed the real culprit wgm.

I was at WW today and bought some things for a song. No way they could be made in the USA for the prices I paid. You get used to it. Mfgrs. do too. Take the textile and shoe industries. Products made in 3rd world countries at so called sweat shops (so the MSM says) for "hey pennies" on the dollar. Come back here and the big dept stores have them placed right up there where they were and higher when made in the USA. Wink! That gravy train is not going to go away. Those 10's of millions of dollar CEO compensations have to be paid for somehow.
 
Maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy but I have been very frustrated lately by poorly made tools/products. I would be willing to pay for better quality and do when I can. Good quality saves time and agravation.
 
About a year ago (I think), the alternator went out on my brother's 1970 F600 grain truck. It was a Sunday afternoon and I didn't have the parts on hand to rebuild it. I got one from O'Reilly Auto, more from taking a few out of the boxes and looking at them, instead of going by their catalog. The replacement unit worked fine and I got him harvesting again. IIRC, the price was $35. What amazed me the most was that it was "rebuilt" in China. When you think about it, they had to box up a bunch of old alternators, ship them by truck to a port in the western USA, barge them to China, have them rebuilt, barge them back to the USA, truck them to the O'Reilly warehouse, truck them to my local parts store, sell it for $35 and still make a good profit.
It's amazing to me that they can't rebuild them locally for a cheaper price. But then I guess they'd have to pay for all the benefits of an American worker.
 
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(quoted from post at 15:05:40 10/16/17) Frustrating to pay North American made prices for Chinese stuff. When Campbell Hausfeld closed out their all steel made in USA retracting hose reels 4 or 5 years ago I bought 3 at 70$ each, the regular price was about 120$. The next year the Chinese models arrived with a bunch of plastic and 20% more expensive. Why couldn?t they keep the good model at 20% more expensive?
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Greed.
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I agree: Greed, aka: Globalization! :evil:
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The greed is not on the part of the seller or the Chinese manufacturer, it is on the part of the US consumer who will demand cheap at any quality level. The sellers are just trying to keep their heads above water and the Chinese are simply manufacturing to American specs.

By the way, they cannot keep the better model in production at 20% more cost because Americans will not buy them - they will go for the cheapest price nearly every time. They would sell so few that each would effectively be a special order. We are ALL just trying to stay above water, and cheap parts are part of the equation.
 
(quoted from post at 17:41:46 10/16/17) A friend who deals with China would add

Order quality, and pay for it, but don't check regularly you will likely get junk.
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Absolutely. The Chinese think nothing of reducing the quality to make a profit after the deal is made. I ran into this when I worked in a Trane manufacturing plant with castings.
 
Something folks working at minimum wage may not be aware of today is that they have access to cheap things, like electronics gadgets,
TVs Stereos and such that were hard to afford back when I was going through that stage. We didn't have Walmarts and Home Depots and
all. Makes a huge difference in the monthly bottom line.
 
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