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Gordo83

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I'm kinda new to a decent hydraulics system. My 41 9N has a loader, and in the winter I replace it with a snow plow. It works great, and I never thought much about how simple it was.
Now I have a newer 77 Kubota L185DT with a loader, and am putting together a snow plow for it. I'm in New England and nothing is flat here. When I drop my 9N plow, it just floats along the contour of whatever the ground is, as in down my steep driveway and across the flat road. It recently occurred to me the Kubota is power up and power down. That is going to be a pain in the butt to plow with. Might be a stupid question, but is there a relatively easy way to make the Kubota loader/plow a floater, like my 9N? Or am I going to have one hand on the up/down lever the entire time I'm plowing?
Thanks for any advice.
 
Your operators manual should tell you if the hydraulic valve has a float position or how to set it for float if it does. Almost all tractors do have float, ALMOST.
 
Your Ford controls a single acting cylinder. Look in your Kubota operators manual for what needs to be changed to have the valve control a single acting cylinder.
 
Thanks. Unfortunately my Kubota L185-L185DT Operators Manual doesn't cover any accessories. It does cover the 3-point hitch hydraulics, but I'm looking for information on the front end loader. Actually I've been unable to find any information on the loader itself even though it's a Kubota Loader.
 
(quoted from post at 21:04:05 09/25/17) Thanks. Unfortunately my Kubota L185-L185DT Operators Manual doesn't cover any accessories. It does cover the 3-point hitch hydraulics, but I'm looking for information on the front end loader. Actually I've been unable to find any information on the loader itself even though it's a Kubota Loader.
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Gordo In 1977 Kubota was actually mounting a woods loader painted orange. I am almost certain that your control has a d?tente float position in the valve. With the tractor off try to push the control in past down position , I think it will stick there in float. IF you have trouble e-mail me direct and I will get you going, may have to change the valve but do not think so.
 
Most all loaders that have 2-way cylinders have a float position, push the lever all the way forward and if it stays there you have float. If you don't you could change the valve.
 
Likely the loader valve goes with the loader, and would be described in the suplimental loader manual.

So it may not be covered in the tractor manual......

See if the loader up / down lever can be pushed into another notch beyond the 2 you use for up/down. That would be a common way to do 'float'.

Paul
 
I have had three small Kubota's with loaders mounted. Two with Kubota loaders and one with a aftermarket Brush Hog Loader. All three had a float position on the control valve. The one I have now, a Kubota Loader, you just push the control lever beyond the down position and it will float.
 
Like many others said there is almost certainly a float position in your valve, it is a detented place in the valve stroke, push the lever to full lower position, then push it a bit more it will go past the detent and lock in the float position, I sold and mounted loaders fro the last 40 plus years never seen any with two-way hyd that do not have a float in the lower circuit unless some one had changed out the original valve, I can see why you want it to float completely, but for me I seldom ever use float for any loader work, plowing snow moving dirt leveling ect I prefer to run it all under my control but that is not for everyone
cnt
 
Thanks folks. So far I have only been able to try moving the lever in different positions while the tractor isn't running. Both rear wheels are off of it, being repaired do to rusted out valve stem areas. I'm a little nervous about firing it up, since there is just a jack under it right now.
With the tractor not running, I have tried pushing the lever all the way forward, as well as trying other positions, but it just pops back to the center position. Is it possible the tractor has to be running to find float? Is it possible the center/neutral position IS the float position?
I will take some pictures of the lever assembly tonight and post them so you folks can see what I have.
Thank you for the help.
 
Yes, don't start it up if it's sitting on a jack, especially if it has FWA! Maybe the detent is bad, but you should be able to feel if it has a float position, it should travel farther in that direction.
 
if you can get a look at the loader valve its self you can look at the end of both spools, the lift circuit should have a longer part on the end of the spool, that will be the detente, I agree there is no need to have it running to check, it will push a bit hard if it has never been used,,
 
Here are some pics of the valve assembly.
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"left hand lever has a float position
cnt"

Case Nutty, Are you saying the float position is the center (cnt), or neutral position between up and down?
 
If the loader is a quick attach set up just mount a snow blade to the ends of the arms with a chain to hold the b;ade in a position for plowing or just mount it to the bucket so it floats on a chain for the third link sort of.
 
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