Predator question

notjustair

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I had vultures circling one of the pastures yesterday morning. Went over and there was a calf dead. There was no mama throwing a fit or mooing but I had tagged two newborns in that pasture the night before. I'm assuming since no one is in a dither or looks like they have calved with no calf on them that it was a twin to one of the new ones. It had gotten up and walked but I had not tagged it (which I do the first day). It had not walked a lot, but the hooves showed signs.

I'm trying to decide what got it. The back half was completely gone - pelvis, legs, etc. The organs were gone but it did not look like the vultures had been there long. The ribs forward were pristine. No marks to the head or hide. No punctures like coyotes played tug of war. Something bit the spine in two cleanly without gnawing it apart.

Is that mountain lion? They are rare but I see one about one a year around here.

It was just like something out of a movie. I half expected there to be crop circles in the beans nearby. What do you guys think?
 
This brings up a question I thought about in the past but was reluctant to ask for sounding stupid. With all the cattle owners on this site; does anyone put any stock into or seen any evidence of these stories of cattle mutilations by UFOs or aliens (not the illegal type) or is there a more terrestrial explanation?
 
Black headed vultures will attack new born calves while they are being born,or just after.They will go for the eyes first,and blind it and then begin eating on it,while it is still alive.And get this:they are federally protected!!!You are allowed to shoot them while they are attacking,but they are very wary,and, you're 'supposed' to report it.Mark.
 
Would you care to give us an update on what the Drs found? How about the 7800 shifting issue?
 
Big cats usually peel the hide off before eating... Except for the neck wound it sounds like coyotes, but that neck wound sounds more like a big cat. I've seen a broken neck in a 600 lb calf from a bear in this part of the world (western Manitoba).
Not sure where you are.
 
Black Vultures will, can, and do attack newborn/young calves, even with mother at it's side. Identified by gray head and neck, stubby, flat tipped wings with a white stripe across them. Flap 4 or 5 times and rest, 4 or 5 times and rest, seldom soar like Turkey Vultures. They decided to import themselves into N. Tx. 10 or so years ago and during calving season I had to be alert at all times of the day, from first to last light.

They travel in packs, have had packs of over 30 that I counted. Usually let Turkeys do the hunting with their superb eyesight and then come in and take the prey away from the Turkey. The Turkey doesn't attack live animals. The Black does.
 
Don t know what to tell ya on the calf. If you don t mind how are you doing health wise. Update us please. Thank you. Richard
 
I agree with Texasmark1. The black faced Vulture can and will kill newborns. I lost a newborn about 3 yrs. ago and I believe they were the culprits. There is always a chance it was still born.....The black face have really moved into central Tx. over the past 10 yrs.
 
Don't know what kind of buzzards they were, a buzzard is a buzzard to me but, me and another kid beat them off of a standing calf with sticks. They were defiantly trying to kill it and the cow was there. That was in central Texas about 75 years ago.
 
(quoted from post at 12:13:08 09/12/17) Don't know what kind of buzzards they were, a buzzard is a buzzard to me but, me and another kid beat them off of a standing calf with sticks. They were defiantly trying to kill it and the cow was there. That was in central Texas about 75 years ago.

The black headed Mexican vultures have only been in N Central Texas for 10 or 15 yrs but not close to 75 yrs
 

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