gas co put a line through one of my farms five years ago, they were 8' from fence across my field trenched pipe in about 1/4 mile long, they ask what my yeild was and payed me for 6' wide by 1/4 mile long, they said thats all they destroyed it was but what about the beans from your trench [mound of dirt] to the fence, there is 8' of beans I cant get, she [gas co] said sorry not there problem. know the lady we go to church together..year ago I tiled that farm on one of the outlets came across the gas line, got into gas line about 3' deep, they were to be 4' deep. called her up told her I hit there gas line, she said you knew it was there yes I did but it should have been 4'deep NOT MY PROBLEM. never heard nothing back....any body have problems with utilitys?
- Thread starter stonerock
- Start date
MarkB_MI
Well-known Member
- Location
- Motown USA
I have dealt with companies who placed gas lines under our property and have found them to be super reasonable. (These were not local utilities.) Now we had a tenant who would disagree with me about that; he felt HE should have been paid for the pipeline easement (rather than the property OWNERS, me and my siblings). He also felt he should have been compensated for the compaction to the no-till summer fallow field caused by their equipment. As you might guess, he was not the easiest tenant to deal with.
Case Nutty 1660
Well-known Member
I have a lot of lease ground, the owners had some test wells drilled on it and there was no compensation to me at all which I was aware of because it reads that way in my lease,, also when the County took some ground for a new by-pass road next to it I got the nice job of cleaning up the mess the contractor left on the construction right away, temp fence, soil control barriers, and the worthless job the fence contractor job using shorter than speced posts and the gate posts and line posts are all coming out of the ground as the gate posts were supposed to be a 4 foot bury, they are less than 2feet in the ground,, who gets to replace all them,, Why I do at my own cost,, I am not hard to get along with but I do not like it when this kind of stuff is done when they are paid to do it right and then the county says well you should have said something right away which I did and they put me off until they could say I said nothing just the way it works I am tired of arguing with them and just fixed it myself as the dang gates were falling over and the line posts are all leaning, this is on a 2 mile stretch of roadside fence got to love dealing with some people lol
1948CaseVAI
Well-known Member
Must be a local gas company. Regardless, they would be out of business (or you would not be able to afford their gas) if they gave in to every demand that could be made by every landowner they touch. It works like ti works.
Mark - IN.
Well-known Member
Be careful nicking a high pressure gas line, large or small. It may not show up for years, but it can show up just the same and if and when it does, it can be pretty bad. I remember one that happened in Colorado that got nicked and not broken into, but weakened the pipe and under pressure and buried it finally fractured and let go a year or two later. It was a big mess that caused an incredible explosion and fire that ended up evacuating a town. This one linked here didn't cause a fire, but was a couple of miles from my property and really let go. One pipe hit not far from another. They're working on putting two more in right there as well. Look at the size of that hole.
Mark
Be Careful
Mark
Be Careful
I heard a lot of pipeline stories the last few weeks while working on the gas compression stations. They had one guy in Kansas that nicked the line, he tried to patch it with an old inner tube and hose clamps, finally called it in when he could not stop it. I would imagine he would of just re-buried the line if the inner tube and clamps worked. Using equipment around gas lines in nothing to mess with, people get KILLED, so call in when ever you work around them. They do get miss marked rarely, but then the liability is on the company. The main lines vary between 400 and 2000 PSI depending on the quality of the line, most are about 900 PSI.
They will also work with you to pay for damages if you file crop claims, generally pretty good people to work with.
They will also work with you to pay for damages if you file crop claims, generally pretty good people to work with.
We can farm over pipeline easement with normal farming tillage needed to produce crop, but can not tile or dig deeper than normal tillage on a utility easement without calling an 800 number for underground utilities locator first or the gas company. They send a representative out to locate the line and depth of line before any thing else can be done. Dangerous to do it any other way without knowing what your digging into. Think most states have an 800 number different for each state.
Not knowing more details of the pipe or the "hit"or the pressure I'll just say you need to make a "one call" or "call before you dig" in the future. In my state it's 811. It's free call.
Usually when someone get killed hitting a high pressure gas line they don't have many problems anymore.
I did 27 years looking after a compressor station and pipeline. I would mark the pipe and get a probe rod down to check the depth.
In the future please call.
Usually when someone get killed hitting a high pressure gas line they don't have many problems anymore.
I did 27 years looking after a compressor station and pipeline. I would mark the pipe and get a probe rod down to check the depth.
In the future please call.
RCP
Well-known Member
- Location
- Grove City Pa
4' deep to the bottom of the trench or 4' of cover, I bet they said 4' to the bottom of the trench.
Rich
Rich
thanks for the consern guys but, they trenched a 3''or 4'' yellow plastic gas line across my farm, not very much pressure, one of my well heads is hooked to it, we had a wheel machine puttin the tile in at 36'' to bottom, hit gas line about 32'' deep . gas co said they were burried 48''deep. didnt need to call the 800# I knew where the pipe was and they new i was going to put tile in. there maps showed it 4' deep
Andy Martin
Well-known Member
Four foot of cover is pretty standard across tillage areas.
However, to protect yourself and your family (after your demise) it is always wise to call the one call number prior to digging. They need to mark it and verify depth. If it is high pressure they will hand expose it many times to make sure you don't hit it. All the pipelines do the same around a competitors lines. Saved my bacon one time when I called on a fiber optic line I knew was outside the fence and I was inside but called anyway. They came out and marked it outside the fence and we cut it inside the fence where they had deviated to miss some shallow rock.
You needed a lawyer to get paid for the beans you couldn't harvest.
However, to protect yourself and your family (after your demise) it is always wise to call the one call number prior to digging. They need to mark it and verify depth. If it is high pressure they will hand expose it many times to make sure you don't hit it. All the pipelines do the same around a competitors lines. Saved my bacon one time when I called on a fiber optic line I knew was outside the fence and I was inside but called anyway. They came out and marked it outside the fence and we cut it inside the fence where they had deviated to miss some shallow rock.
You needed a lawyer to get paid for the beans you couldn't harvest.
jimg.allentown
Well-known Member
Even though you knew where the line was, the LAW still requires you to call before digging. Why? Because there may be OTHER underground lines from years past - before you acquired the property. So, in essence, had you called, and the utility told you that the lines were 4 feet deep, and then you hit one at 3 feet, they would have been wrong and liable. As it stands, they may be able to take action against you because you did not call.
Stephen Newell
Well-known Member
I can't believe it was suppose to be even as shallow as 4'. When they ran an underground electric wire on my place they ran it 6' deep. Even the water utility is 3' deep.
Texasmark1
Well-known Member
Here gas lines have warning plackards along the routes, usually on the fences that cross the line. The contact number is posted. Call the number and in less than 24 hours a guy comes out with his locator and tells you exactly where the line is located and how deep. They don't fool around here. It's serious business. I have a 12 and 18 across the back corner of my property.
Similar threads
We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.
Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.
Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters
Website Accessibility Policy