F150 engine woes

Daughter's new (to her) 2013 F150 took a crap. 5.0 engine. Compression issues. Dealer is in for replacement engine. Her father-in-law just had similar issue with his. Cost him $8k to get his fixed.

Anyone else have similar problems with those engines?

On some of the forums I visit on Mustangs, the issue is caused usually by a programmer being on the Mustang 5.0. There was a recall on the Mustangs for a new program on the computer. Alot of those guys who lost the engine went with the 5.2 Voodoo, if it was out of warranty, since it would cost about the same, or built what they had.

I would be looking for a second opinion. Could just be top end problem, valve, head gasket.

How many miles?

If it is a bad engine, might consider a salvage yard, low mileage engine. Most high end yards guarantee them, somewhat honest, but still a chance. I would prefer a salvage engine over a rebuilt.

We have 16 of them (2011 to 2016 - no 2017s yet). One of the 2013s had issues from day one. It took about 10,000 miles to convince the dealer to replace it under warranty. The others have been very solid - no water pumps, head gaskets or intake manifold gaskets yet. We have replaced a couple fuel pumps. Highest mileage on a 5.0 is 188,000, the lowest is 11,000 miles.

Ray,
I don't know about a 2013 but I have a 2014 F150 and it has a 60,000 mile 5 year warranty on the complete power train. Might check out the manual first.

Still under dealer (independent used car dealer) warranty so it is up to them to replace. Undrestand they're going to use a remanufactured engine. I'd be sending that one down the road and looking for another brand. Daughter says she's suffering "buyers remorse".

Don't know the mileage on said vehicle.. But I've been Ford parts manager for 43 years.
But will tell you if a Engine has a internal Problem 90+% of the time it will happen
be for 1000 miles.. Any 2.7,3.5, 3.7, 4.6, 5.4, gas engines Love Clean Oil & Oil Changes.
We have many running around with well over +200K with no problems, those have been well cared
for, but most won't run 100K with poor records of service history. Might add it wasn't my
idea to create 100K Spark plugs.....

I have a 2011 F150 with almost 200K miles and it gets its oil changed every time the change oil light comes on and new plugs when the check engine light comes on, after the dealer finally figured out what the check engine light meant (misfire code). Had a 1995 Explorer with 260K miles and it got the oil changed twice a year, most of the time.

Doesn't Ford have a 5 year, 100 thousand drive train warranty like GM? Depending on in service date and miles it might fall in.

GM doesn't have a 5 year 100K warranty anymore. In 2016 and beyond its a 5 year 60,000 mile warranty.

Hope the warranty pays off. The independent warranties seem to be of extremely questionable quality - many companies seem to disappear every couple years.

Ray, I retired from a used car dealership June 30th of this year. I wondered why we here getting so many people trying to trade these trucks in for Dodge and Chevy's. I knew something was going on. This is probably the reason.

Those are good trucks and engines if maintained.

How many miles?

Ford just seems like they can not design their motors very well.

Good friend was a total Ford guy. Owned Fords for 50 years. Then he bought a 1999 Ford F250 with a 5.4 in it. Just out of factory drive train warranty it shot two spark plugs out. This was before they had the repair bushing. He had to either replace both head or go with a new long block. He went with the new long block. He then changed the spark plugs more often and did not have any more trouble with it.

Then he traded that truck in on a new 2004 Ford F350 with the 6.0 diesel. That truck lived at the dealership more than his farm. They fixed the engine as they went along but the resale dropped like a rock. He lost BIG money when he finally got tired of not having a truck. HE traded to a 2007 Chevy 3500 with a Duromax and has had zero trouble with that truck.

Same fellow bought a 2005 Mercury Mountaineer with the 4.0 V-65 in it. At around 80K the timing chain guide wear dropped enough filings into the oil pump that the motor spun a bearing. Ford dealer denied that there was any issue with that motor doing that. Even thought 1000s of people on the internet posted about the same thing happening. Ford even had a fix as fail program good up to 75K on that very model. Ford would pay nothing on him having the vehicle repaired. HE took his lumps and sold it for salvage. He now drives a Chevy Equinox. Zero troubles in just under 75K.

So this is just one friend that was a Ford owner. I have more that had issues too. The funny thing is that the engine troubles seem to be real random. I know guys that are absolute maintenance nuts and they had issues. Guys that hardly ever touch their vehicles had no problems.

I would not feel safe owning a Ford that was out of the OEM power train warranty. Their engine track record is just not good enough in the last 20 years for me.

I've seen the older 7.3 power strokes go 350.000 plus no problems cummins 12V go the same don't buy new, step back and buy tied and true, just kike everything else.

Problems like these are not isolated to Ford, I suspect this might be a valve train issue maybe burned valve. I work on all of them, and just replaced cam and lifters in a chevy 5.3, and have done cylinder heads for valve problems plenty of times too. Right now There is a Dodge 5.7 hemi in the shop now with a flat cam, lifters chewed up, and have seen several of those too, also valve/spring problems along with many MDS and variable valve timing issues on all of them, DI injectors, the list goes on and on. Technology and budget has definitely passed longevity and reliability, for diesel and gas engines.

All of these trucks are seeing major engine problems around 100k miles, some more and some less. From what I have seen, neglect has nothing to do with it. I have yet torn into any of these engines and found sludge or even tarnished metal from oil deposits. Honestly if someone asks me what truck I would recommend, I'm not sure I can give them a good answer. For now, I'm going to keep my 12v Cummins going.

Lets see, your daughter buys a four year old truck with no idea what the maintenance history is, the engine fails and you blame the manufacturer. Unbelievable!

I have been driving for over fifty years, mostly Fords, and have never had an engine fail. And most of them in the last twenty years over 200k miles. Rust gets them first. There will probably be a rant now how fast Fords rust.

They won't be able to make that argument hold up. One of My friends bought a new 05 dodge and another bought an 05 chev and when I traded my 99 Ford both of theirs had more rust than my Ford. The dodge is still around and is nearly rusted away now.

As for rust, not Ford, Chevy or Dodge has recalled their trucks to replace a rusted frame (they actually rusted in two) as did Toyota!

You buy one a person owned on lease or knew they were only keeping a short time and maintenance gets real questionable. As stated by another poster new engines with variable timing need clean oil to operate.

Ford recalled rocker panels recently.

And those Toyota guys made out with the frame replacements and /or buy backs !

Ford stopped the rust with aluminum ! LOL now they just will corrode.

Dodge seems to be worst on rust then maybe Ford then Chevy ? But have seen some worse than others of all models.