USS Finback rescues downed airman 9/2/44

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The pilot, flying a TBM Avenger, encounters heavy flak on a mission over Chichi Jima. His plane is hit and his engine bursts into flames. He flys the crippled plane several miles out to sea where he and his radioman/gunner bail out. The gunner's parachute fails to open and he is killed but the pilot lands safely. About 4 hours later submarine USS Finback, on lifeguard duty, picks him up and takes him back to his home carrier.
The pilot, in later life, is our 41st President.
George H W Bush
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Partly true. The airplane was NOT on fire. Bush did bail out. The other THREE crewmen were all killed and did NOT bail out. Bush claimed he was on fire but several eyewitnesses said there was no fire and no immediate peril to cause Bush to bail out and leave his crew behind.
 
(quoted from post at 06:03:06 09/02/17) Partly true. The airplane was NOT on fire. Bush did bail out. The other THREE crewmen were all killed and did NOT bail out. Bush claimed he was on fire but several eyewitnesses said there was no fire and no immediate peril to cause Bush to bail out and leave his crew behind.

Sorry gordo, that doesn't wash, the Avenger Torpedo bomber had a 3 man crew, not 4 so he couldn't have abandoned THREE other crewmen. The Avenger's crew were pilot, turret gunner and radioman/bombardier/ventral gunner. So if the several "eyewitnesses', allegedly other pilots/crewmen flying the same mission can't even get the number of crewmen on the plane right I can't trust the rest of their story either. Just who are these eye witnesses? Did they appear before he became Reagans running mate of after?

Next question is to how many missions he flew with some claiming 48 and others 52. Who cares. The man flew combat missions against and armed and aggressive enemy. Now, why would he lie about why he bailed out? One account says he bailed out and the crew died in the crash, another that he bailed out after the crew and that they were captured and excuted. Another claimed it was impossible for an Avenger to burn which other research proves to be a lie. Another version of the story is that both other crewmen made it out, were captured, executed and at least partially eaten by the senior offices.

Now Bush the man? I thought he handled the invasion of Kuwait very well but overall didn't much care for his term in office. But I'm not going to knock someone who did in fact go in harms way for out country unless you can prove to me that they were cowards or traitors. Kinda funny but the same kinda controversy is rising up about the PT 109 incident. Kennedy claimed it was too dark to see the destroyer yet crewmen from the destroyer claimed to have seen the 109 and in fact to have deliberately run it down. At least Kennedy and Bush were willing to serve unlike a former president who did his level best to avoid military service and in IMO only escaped being prosecuted for being a draft dodger because of his influential friends.

Get over it man, Bush won't run again.

Rick
 
I use to fly in a restored TBM. That plane had a three man crew. Everyone I flew with knew the history of Bush. It was not an easy plane to get out of
with gear on. We practiced leaving many times with full gear on. Pilot had no problem. Top gunner and radio gunner. Had to go through a small door.

The plane I flew in. Was TBM3E-401SL
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This one showed up at the local mini-airshow several years ago.

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At the time, the Japanese commander on Chichi Jima was reportedly eating the hearts and livers of downed American Airmen.
If true, I figure GB missed this fate by a couple minutes.
 
(quoted from post at 16:09:05 09/02/17) At the time, the Japanese commander on Chichi Jima was reportedly eating the hearts and livers of downed American Airmen.
If true, I figure GB missed this fate by a couple minutes.

From what I read it wasn't only the commander doing that but several of his subordinates too.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 10:50:48 09/02/17)
(quoted from post at 06:03:06 09/02/17) Partly true. The airplane was NOT on fire. Bush did bail out. The other THREE crewmen were all killed and did NOT bail out. Bush claimed he was on fire but several eyewitnesses said there was no fire and no immediate peril to cause Bush to bail out and leave his crew behind.

Sorry gordo, that doesn't wash, the Avenger Torpedo bomber had a 3 man crew, not 4 so he couldn't have abandoned THREE other crewmen. The Avenger's crew were pilot, turret gunner and radioman/bombardier/ventral gunner. So if the several "eyewitnesses', allegedly other pilots/crewmen flying the same mission can't even get the number of crewmen on the plane right I can't trust the rest of their story either. Just who are these eye witnesses? Did they appear before he became Reagans running mate of after?

Next question is to how many missions he flew with some claiming 48 and others 52. Who cares. The man flew combat missions against and armed and aggressive enemy. Now, why would he lie about why he bailed out? One account says he bailed out and the crew died in the crash, another that he bailed out after the crew and that they were captured and excuted. Another claimed it was impossible for an Avenger to burn which other research proves to be a lie. Another version of the story is that both other crewmen made it out, were captured, executed and at least partially eaten by the senior offices.

Now Bush the man? I thought he handled the invasion of Kuwait very well but overall didn't much care for his term in office. But I'm not going to knock someone who did in fact go in harms way for out country unless you can prove to me that they were cowards or traitors. Kinda funny but the same kinda controversy is rising up about the PT 109 incident. Kennedy claimed it was too dark to see the destroyer yet crewmen from the destroyer claimed to have seen the 109 and in fact to have deliberately run it down. At least Kennedy and Bush were willing to serve unlike a former president who did his level best to avoid military service and in IMO only escaped being prosecuted for being a draft dodger because of his influential friends.

Get over it man, Bush won't run again.

Rick

Well done Rick! Semper Fi!
 
At the time, the Japanese commander on Chichi Jima was reportedly eating the hearts and livers of downed American Airmen.
If true, I figure GB missed this fate by a couple minutes.
 

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