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I am going to look at a used dump truck, is their anything I should really look for ,it is a international truck with aoutamatic transmission , 466 dt engine , and air brakes, it is a single axle truck, thanks in advance
 
What size dump is it running? We ran one single axel with 3208 cat and auto for years with a 14' dump hauling manure and silage. Not a lot of power but would easily pull anything a single axel can handle. International's are bad for cab supports rusting out and it's a fair job to replace them. Check for that for sure. Also make sure the transmission works almost flawlessly. They're a good transmission when they work but if it's slipping or the oil smells burnt up it may need replaced and that's not cheap either.
 
There's a sequence to using auto and pto as well,put the pto in gear with the transmission in either reverse or forward and foot on the brake,once the pto is in gear out the truck in neutral than the pto will run and not grind going into gear.
 
Need to know what year. Early dt466 engine are pump injected and not computer controlled, give less trouble. Cost of replacing the injectors on the electric engine is fairly pricy.
 
I agree that the auto trans. needs to be checked out thoroughly, as that would be my biggest concern.

I've had two, off road, farm use dump trucks just for dirt, stones, shale, etc. First one was Dodge 600 w/318 and 5 speed. It was handy, but absolutely gutless. Now I have an IH 1700 w/345 and 4x2 speed. It is also gutless. Both of these trucks were "park" trucks which never saw the highway. Very low miles, but lots of rust from spreading salt. I think the diesel and automatic would be very handy for this work. Only drawback would be the weight of the diesel engine. Even a tiny diesel would work. Don't need a lot of power when you don't go over 10-20 MPH!
 
Is it an S-1700 or a S-1900 Series or a 4700 or a 4900. Is it a DT466, A DTA 466 or a DT466 E.Not all DT's are 466's. I have a DT--360 We work on all of them and own a couple. What would you really like to know? I don't own any allison automatics,so I really can't help you there, But I have a couple of customers that do and the have had pretty good luck with them.Get me more info as to what you are looking at and I can tell you more.
 
ok thanks for your help it will be Thursday before I look at it ,looks to have a 9 or 10 foot bed, not sure on the series or rest on engine yrt
 
If you can get a farm license probably no problem. Not sure how are you going to use it but if you're going to load it with 6 yards of gravel, you're probably going to top out around 34,000# which requires a CDL. It will also require a visit from the DOT and random drug testing even if it's for your own use and you are the sole operator.

There is nothing cheap about a big truck. Tires, repairs and maintenance are all expensive.
 
I have 83 Ford F800 8.2 Detroit hyd brakes 6 yard box EW 13200# Tagged for 28000. No name no DOT haven't been bothered by popo. Do have CDL. never had drug test except for other job.
 
If the DT-466 is rated 180 to 210 hp and geared even remotely close to right it will not be under-powered.

I hauled ready-mix two summers and part of a third. One group of trucks were '66 Whites with 165 hp Cummins and 5+4 transmissions. Huge crankshaft driven hyd pump out in front of the bumper to turn the drum sucking power any time the engine ran and while it was no speed demon I could run 50-60 mph loaded to 50,000-52,000#. And 55-65 empty at 22,000#. Pump still sucked power even when the drum didn't turn.

First year I drove '74 Diamond Reo, 208 hp Cummins 555, 5-spd Allison and 3-speed Brownie. Same big pump, but larger 8-9 yard drum but only licensed to 50,000# but got loaded to 52,000# frequently and 55,000# a couple times. Once again, no speed demon but ran 50-60 loaded and 55-65 empty.

I see absolutely no reason a single axle dump needs more power than either one of those ten-wheelers. The township I worked for before the ready-mix co. had 366-powered C-65 trucks, probably 160-170 hp and that was plenty of power loaded to 34,000#.
 

Cracks in the frame, cracks in the suspension, wear in the steering gear, brakes, electrical issues... pretty much everything and anything on the truck. Dumps get used hard.
 
Sounds like a ex DOT or city/township truck.

Pay attention to rust/corrosion on it.
Especially the frame and suspension.

You will have no problem with the engine or trans.
Tom
 
I just bought this 1975 CNT900 Dodge, 855 Cummins with turbo, with a 13 spd,and 14 foot box. Everything works. I love it.
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That depending on what model Allison and what model PTO> Also when I was around the Chelsea product line and most of the county trucks around here are this way it was a constant mesh PTO running a variable displacement piston pump.
 
That is a piece of history. Back in the 70's and early 80's a customer of mine had one like that with a 413 gas engine -5 speed trans with a 3 speed aux behind it. It got 2 to 3 miles per gallon loaded.
 
THANKS TO EVERY ONE FOR THEIR PEPLIES ON MY TRUCK QUESTIONS I LOOKED AT ONE TODAY BUT IT WAS JUNK THE OWNER WASNT VERY TRUTHFUL ON CONDITION OF IT THANKS FOR YOUR HELP ...DALE
 
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