Old hard tires in the

SPT · Aug 16, 2017

Any suggestions on breaking down beeds on old tires, lubricant rust dissolvant etc.

Ronnie Budd · Aug 16, 2017

I've gotten old and get winded too easy, so I just call the tire shop and they send out their farm service truck. He uses a pneumatic bead breaker, and sometimes it's a bit of a struggle even with that.

rustred · Aug 16, 2017

be nice to know what you are working on, or referring to.

SPT · Aug 16, 2017

ol

Old set of 14.9 x38 on open center rims.

9001ron · Aug 16, 2017

If the tire is on the ground use the front edge of the bucket on your front end loader to push down
the tire to break the bead. It can be a bit of a struggle to line every thing up as the loader comes
down in a curve rather than straight down -- helps to have some body watch for you . Get the edge of
the bucket as close to the rim as possible as some of those tiers are really rusted on. You must
have the valve core removed and of course no fluid in there either.

rustred · Aug 16, 2017

the tire hammer works as good or better than anything else.

BarnyardEngineering · Aug 16, 2017

Anything you can use to generate brute force is what you need. Nothing you can spray on will do any good before you die of old age.

If you don't have a heavy tractor with a loader with down force, a farm jack is the next best thing. You need something to jack against.

SPT · Aug 16, 2017

(quoted from post at 16:45:49 08/16/17) the tire ha in
mmer works as good or better than anything else.

Years ago breaking down 10x20 truck tires, seems we used gasoline to help separate tire from rim?

BarnyardEngineering · Aug 16, 2017

(quoted from post at 16:45:49 08/16/17) the tire hammer works as good or better than anything else.

Yeah, after you're done beating the rim into an unrecognizable shape with the tire hammer, you buy a new rim. Makes dismounting the old tire incredibly easy.

funky_g00 · Aug 16, 2017

What has worked for me is a BFH and anything that I could find that will wedge between the rim and the tire bead. A few examples are machinist/metalworker hammers (the ones with a wedge end), blunt chisels , blunt splitting wedges and numerous chunks of scrap iron. However similar to a rusted bolt until you get that bead to move even just a little, no soap, lubricant or rust dissolver will do much good until it can actually penetrate the problem area.

tim s · Aug 16, 2017

For the past 30 years we have been pushing them off the bead with a 4"X4"X12' rough cut Oak put one end against the front end a tractor, the other end near the edge of the rim,,better than a slide hammer,,and of course be careful..

Whiskey Bent · Aug 16, 2017

I lay the tire down under my goose neck trailer and put a handy man jack right next to the bead and jack up under the trailer frame. Works very good but prolly is dangerous! Might have to move the jack a few times if it dont break loose the first time. If it lifts the trailer drive something heavy on it. BE CAREFULL!

CKain(MI) · Aug 16, 2017

I sometimes use the tractor drawbar and a jack(old bumper jack), then bead gives up before the DC raises up !!!

rustred · Aug 16, 2017

not my fault you hit the rim...ha ha. or you just got to presume everybody cant use a tire hammer.

Dean · Aug 16, 2017

Slide hammer.

Works every time.

Dean

Northvale PA · Aug 16, 2017

I use the draw bar on our IH 300U to push down on the tire. Fast hitch has power down. Breaks a tire ad nicely

showcrop · Aug 16, 2017

Simple. Those tires are no good anyway, so you cut them off close to the bead with a recipe saw, then cut the bead with a cold chisel.

Pete in MD · Aug 16, 2017

I used gasoline once and it worked good.

hd6gtom · Aug 16, 2017

I have been using a duck bill tire hammer since 1986 and never destroyed a rim. I have mounted thousands of rear
tractor tires over the years, yes thousands, we ordered them by the semi loads. There is NO liquid you can pore
on an old tire to help break it down. If you have the rim laying on the ground, a lot of rubber lube smeared on
the tire, not dish soap, it AINT slick enough, a duck billed tire hammer and a few good licks, you will see it
start to move. Some of these guys are advising you use a handyman jack under the drawbar. Be carefull, It is
very dangerous.

Andy Martin · Aug 16, 2017

Myers Tire, in Ohio I think, only sell tire supplies. They have a lubricant which is made for tire beads and it does work well. It works better than soap when putting old hard tires back on and penetrates well to help get them off.

I made my own slide hammer and it works well but the lubricant sure makes it go quicker.

SPT · Aug 16, 2017

(quoted from post at 19:46:51 08/16/17) Myers Tire, in Ohio I think, only sell tire supplies. They have a lubricant which is made for tire beads and it does work well. It works better than soap when putting old hard tires back on and penetrates well to help get them off.

I made my own slide hammer and it works well but the lubricant sure makes it go quicker.

I cannot believe the number of response s, surely I will be able to determine the best method.
Thanks to all for suggestions, will keep you posted.

caterpillar guy · Aug 17, 2017

I use some Cyclo Break away for beads. It is a penetrating oil sort of stuff. Works good to let soak in overnight then give it another squirt in the morning at the start. If it moves more will be better. I buy it in gallon cans then pour into old dish soap bottles to squirt it on with. Don't be cheap with it. Then with an old piece of grader blade drive the tapered end in the crack. Move it and repeat. Or get one of those fancy bead breakers. The last one I did was on an 806 with 18.4-38 I just jacked with the hydraulic jack against the side of the tractor on the tire to break it down. It is easier with the tire on the tractor as it will hold still for you then.

Mike M · Aug 17, 2017

I had some old hard tires on JD H rims. These rims were worth more than the tires at that time so I cut them off with a sawsall and an angle grinder on the bead wire IIRC. The rims just wanted to bend otherwise. I too usually use an oak board cut at a bevel on the end and push down with the loader to loosen the beads.

Texasmark1 · Aug 17, 2017

My tire hammer has a rubber end so that you don't damage the rim when you beat the tire off. The other end has the wedge for breaking the bead if you don't have, didn't make yourself a bead breaker.

1206SWMO · Aug 17, 2017

I lay the tire flat and drive a 13,000 lb 1206 IH on one side and a 13,000 lb 1456 IH on the
other side..I have never failed to break down a rear tractor tire...

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