Short tire life

Mike M

Well-known Member
Guy at work just had a 6 year old Uniroyal on his truck fly apart like a retread would. Less than 23,000 mi. on them. Tore the bedside up really bad !
They sure don't make tires as good as they used to either. I see a lot more laying along the roads and more people with flats at the side of the roads too than I used to.
 
If he got 6 years out on a Uniroyal he did good. The tread cracks and water seeps in, and a few miles the water heats up and expands. Something has to give, and it is the tread. It is the same reason why trailer tires should be changed every five years.
 
I'm noticing a little tread cracking in the Michelin XW4 tires I have on the 52 Merc. They were well worn down in tread when I took them off the Blazer back about 2002. I've run them for a while on the old car and they seem fine for the type driving I do. I think they built better tires back in the late 90s.
 
Same here, Continental factory tires on a 09 F450, 23,000 miles.

About a month ago one of the fronts blew and threw the tread off. Replaced them.

Then noticed one of the rears had a split. I ordered the 4 rears online, about 1/2 the price of getting them at Firestone.

They came in Friday, on my way to get them mounted this morning, the outside left did the same thing, blew and threw the tread off.

Perfect timing, I guess. But sure put some fear in the driver of the little white car that was passing at about 90 MPH when it let go! LOL
 
I got 88k on 70k Michelin on my truck. Never had bad luck with Michelin. Been using them over 25 years. Can't say that about other brands.
 
All tires have a limited life due to deterioration over time. A six year old tire may beyond it's usable life.
 
(quoted from post at 13:13:05 08/15/17) All tires have a limited life due to deterioration over time. A six year old tire may beyond it's usable life.

Hmmm, those thirty year old tires I'm running are how old in dog years?
 
On my truck, I only buy one tire - the General Grabber AT2

Doesn't have as long a tread life (mileage), but is quiet, has awesome traction on paved, dirt, mud, sand and snowy/icy conditions, and is one of the less expensive tires out there. Last I knew, they were also still made in USA. Found my best price (delivered) at DiscountTireDirect.com
 
(quoted from post at 12:56:56 08/15/17) I got 88k on 70k Michelin on my truck. Never had bad luck with Michelin. Been using them over 25 years. Can't say that about other brands.

Yeah, I've had nothing but bad luck with Michelins. Finally swore off them, slipping plies putting knots on most all of them.
 
There's Firestone radials on our 3 yr old NewHolland,boy are they starting to crack bad between the treads. Our tire guy says a persons almost better off paying half for an off shore tire because the brand names aren't holding up like they used to.
 
I had a Michelin blow up with less than 2,500 miles, and under 5 years on my motorhome. The tire just came apart tread and all. What I did find out is, Michelin had a recall on all 6 of my tires. I got 6 new tires installed at no charge to me. The best thing that happened to me in a ling time. I'm usually a dollar short or a day late. Stan
 
(reply to post at 13:30:54 08/15/17)On my truck, I only buy one tire - the General Grabber AT2

Doesn't have as long a tread life (mileage), but is quiet, has awesome traction on paved, dirt, mud, sand and snowy/icy conditions, and is one of the less expensive tires out there. Last I knew, they were also still made in USA. Found my best price (delivered) at DiscountTireDirect.com

I run the Grabbers AT2's on all the farm vehicles too. One of the cheaper LT tires out there...some are made in the USA, some Mexico. I've had really good luck with them, probably close to 40 tires worth at this point. We don't get nearly as many flats it seems with them as well.
 
In 1979, my first new car came with-whatever-I had Michelins installed. I had had it several brands of steel belted radials, slipping sideways and being suckered into replacing with the same brand due to trade in allowances. Been using Michelins these many years on different cars and never had a problem and usually get full mileage wear advertized. No flats, either. Leo
 
I've found that the degree of success I have with tires is inversely proportional to the price I pay. I've had better luck with cheap, off brand tires than I have had with high priced name brands.

Although some years ago, I read where there were something like 200 brands of tires in the U.S. and about a dozen manufacturers made them all. But-that was before the Korean imports, which I've had good luck with.
 
"No flats, either. Leo"

That is one for my "unsolved mystery" file.

I ran a lot of different tires on my 01 Silverado 1500. Usually whatever I could find cheap.

Finally upgraded to Michelins. Truck rode and handled better than it ever did with any other tire.

But the strangest thing, with the other tires, constant flats! Picking up nails and screws, and even for no good reason, always airing them up.

Put the Michelins on, the flats stopped! Driving the exact same route to and from work, nothing different, the nails just stopped! And maybe need to add air once a year, if at all!

Strange!
 
I had a blowout on right rear of my F250 about three months ago, tires were five years old and just rolled 18,000 miles, destroyed my truck bed, a week later the right front tire separated internally and pulled over and changed it, bought four new tires and had a steel flatbed made for my truck, body shop wanted $2400+ to fix my F250 bed, those sorry tires were made overseas and sad to say my new ones are too
 
What mileage did he have on truck because there are low mileage cheap tires out there. Another thing you have to maintain tire pressure. Most tire failure is do to in proper tire pressure.
 
miles mean nothing when a tire is that old on a vehicle. be ok on a hay wagon maybe. no they sure dont make them like they used to... only better. get a challenger, mustang or camero doing over 150 mph and can reach close to 200 mph and it takes good rubber.
 
There has never been a set of tires made, I don't care what name is on them that I could get 50,000 miles out of. My Dodge 3500 just turned over 50,000 miles and it is on it 4th set of tires and came from the factory with Michelin's. They made it 18,000 miles. My wife drives her car 550 miles a week to and from work.She never makes it a full year on a set of tires. You must really have some good roads with no curves or potholes.
 
I've got 85k on a set of goodyear wrangler that came on the Silverado Z71 1500. I think it has some part in driving habits. Do a lot of road miles, but work the crap out of it also.
 
That reminds me.
Back in the Spring my truck was laid up so I borrowed Mother's '78 Monte Carlo. (It used to be mine.) I was about 10 miles from home when the right front tire went down. And no air in the spare. The tread was beginning to separate. Then I looked at the other 3, they were beginning to separate, too.
While I was waiting for Dad to bring me the air tank, I decided that I better try to nurse this thing back home, if I could get there, rather than go on to work. It also dawned on me that those tires were on my other '78 Monte that I wrecked in 1986. So I am thinking we got over 30 years out of them. I wish they made Bridgestones that well today.
 

You picked all the screws nail's up with your old mic's... I have a Mic here rat now its got 5 holes in it... I repaired 3 some time back he said put two new ones on it...

I would not talk anyone that wants mic's out of it but I never will recommend them to someone that has never had them... I don't see the value in them from what I have seen that come thru my shop... I do believe a man can pizz his money away anyway he want's...

I will not sale a used tire that's 5 years old and maybe 4... Its becoming hard to find a shop that will mount a tire that's over 5 years old. This is not some made up myth its real YMMV but you will pay for it somewhere somehow someway....

My fix for all the chit that's out there waiting to enter out tires... Make it mandatory that electric cars have a belly pan that's magnetized (make them pay for the free electric they get) when they plug into a free charging station it dumps the metal in a catch pan... Are that have a system to vacuum the road make them pay for something seeing as they do not pay tax on road fuel...

I had a first last week what looked like a motorcycle spoke went in the center of the tread and thur the sidewall of the tire :shock:
 
My dad loves them for some reason too. I
never cared for them. I just run whatever
tires will get my pickup with 20,000 pounds
of wood behind it, out of the woods in mud
and snow. BFG All Terrains seem to work
very well at it for me.
 
I've got tractors from the 40s & 50s with original tires.They just know how to make them to last just so long.
 
Can't blame a tire if you have pot holes and bad roads. Yes, I drive on good roads, don't stop fast, don't make fast turns. Check air pressure often. Rotate and balance every 6k miles. Keep an aliment often.
 
I agree ! If I can get 40k on my Dodge 2500 per set I am real happy. I rotate them often, check the pressure and keep up on the alignment. I don't buy cheap tires either. Usually coopers or generals. Friend who owns his own welding buiseness has 4 dodge 3500's and swears by toyo tires. A lot I believe has to do with the tread pattern. Open shoulder tires wear bad for me. I think I am going to try cooper h/t' s next . Wife has them on her jeep Cherokee and they are holding up well.
 
Tires deteriorate over time. Tread wear has nothing to do with it. Trailer and rv tires are supposed to be replaced every 5 years no matter what the tread looks like. Guess they don't tell people that about vehicle tires because they never last that long anyway unless the vehicle doesn't get driven much or your George who can really milk the miles from a set of tires. I usually only get half of what he gets. Around 40k. Sure wish I could, it would save me a lot of money !
 
A large part of the problem is the EPA fuel mandates. The tire manufacturers have to use a harder rubber compound to meet the requirements. That is straight from a warranty claims facility for a large tire manufacturer that I deliver too. Most people don't realize how far the tentacles of government regulation and mandates reach.
 

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