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olgentdc

olgentdc

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what in the world is going on,, with napa and o riellys these days . a simple shutoff solenoid on my 95 dodge cummins from
NAPA,,$ 400 + and the relay switch over $500+,, they want a $ 176 for a fuel lift pump ,, went to e-bay , got the USA built
relay and solenoid for less than 30 bux with a one year money back guaruntee ,
 
I just bought a mower pulley. 55.00 dollars plus 15.00 for shipping from the OEM. Found it on ebay. 23.00 dollars free shipping. Prices are getting out of hand.
 
Watch what you get on Ebay. Not what they always say it is and some are hard or impossible to return or collect from.
 
"They are not a charity", that's a really good point, I'm sure he thought they were, and
appreciates the informative reply.
 
Agree with everyone else and seems the same in my area. Now all those ebay or online outfits have labor force, buildings, taxes just like retail store. Then there are outfits that specialize in some thing like windmill parts, vintage Chevy parts. Hard for the auto/store chains to compete with that one.
 
This is one that really torques me, I have had an experience recently about the same. Mechanic I use said the front wheel bearing on a 2011 expedition was gonna run 280 for the cheapo Chinese bearing, but if I wanted a good skf or timken it was going to run 400 for just the bearing, not wanting to get ripped off I look on line, and low and behold I can get the cheapo for 90 and a good motor craft for 180. I told the mechanic and he said that he wouldn't put on the bearing if I ordered it because of liability issues. So the mechanic and the local Napa store no longer get my business. I don't mind every one making a buck but they don't have to make it off of one customer! Auto parts stores in small towns are the biggest rip off there is nowa days it seems. I love amazon, have some filters for my ford son major in my cart now.
 

The cost differential between the shop price and the on-line store price has become a big incentive for me to do more work myself. Bearings and seals are two types of parts where there is a great opportunity to save. A bearing for my tedder that would have been $46.00 from the Kuhn dealer was $4.75 from my local bearing store. You need to think about the cost of maintaining the inventory. An online store is likely to serve far more parts users than the OEM parts depot.
 
It's not just "uncommon" part, either. Neighbor needed a new Positive battery cable for her 1995 Dodge 1500 pickup (gasser). None of the after market places could get one - Dodge wanted $280 at one place, $250 at the other. Turned out to be nothing special - just an ordinary cable.....but, then again, it's DODGE, and their parts system is a complete nightmare.
 

It will only get worse; all of the stuff you don't buy from the local parts guy, he raises the price on what you do buy to make up the difference. Of course he drives you away with that, so he's not long for this world.

Same thing Amazon did to Sears, K-mart, JC Penney, etc., will happen to the small bricks and mortar as well.

I don't buy anything local except for food and fuel; everything else comes in the brown truck....
 
(quoted from post at 03:48:39 06/28/17) This is one that really torques me, I have had an experience recently about the same. Mechanic I use said the front wheel bearing on a 2011 expedition was gonna run 280 for the cheapo Chinese bearing, but if I wanted a good skf or timken it was going to run 400 for just the bearing, not wanting to get ripped off I look on line, and low and behold I can get the cheapo for 90 and a good motor craft for 180. I told the mechanic and he said that he wouldn't put on the bearing if I ordered it because of liability issues. So the mechanic and the local Napa store no longer get my business. I don't mind every one making a buck but they don't have to make it off of one customer! Auto parts stores in small towns are the biggest rip off there is nowa days it seems. I love amazon, have some filters for my ford son major in my cart now.
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He's right and don't need your money whats wrong with that other than you get to beach about it..
 
I just cannot see the liability issue with installing a customer's part, except for the mechanic does not get the markup on the part. He could ask for that.

People who drive old vehicles need to be DIY'ers. Most people want to drive new cars to avoid the ripoff vehicle repair business.

You could always save big money by buying a vehicle maintenance insurance policy. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
 
The liability issue would be if the bearing failed. Who is to blame, mechanic, poor parts. Who pays. That is no doubt what he meant. If you buy the bearing from mechanic, he installs it , it fails, he puts in another one and it is his problem. If you bring in bearing, he installs it, it fails, he is not going to redo it for nothing. Bearing supplier says mechanic screwed it up. Not worth his hassle unless he has no work at all then he may well take the chance.
 
I understand all that, but if I take a part to somebody to have it installed, it seems far fetched I'd blame him if it failed. But we've never been sue happy. If a bearing fails and costs us a lot of money we buy another and install it. I also would be surprised if a mechanic stood behind a bearing he bought other than maybe free labor to reinstall.
 
The shop in town by me has and will install posts for me that I purchase myself. I've had them press in a wheel bearing for me in the past also when I was doing some font end work myself. Never an issue for me. If it fails again, they'll either get my cash to install another part I purchase, or they'll order one themselves and put it in.

Mostly depends on how soon I need it.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
(quoted from post at 12:47:44 06/27/17) "They are not a charity", that's a really good point, I'm sure he thought they were, and appreciates the informative reply.
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Well that's what it seems like with all the complaints about parts prices! They must think these places are charities.

If you can find it cheaper, bully for you. Go buy it there. Just don't whine and complain when there are no local auto parts stores left in a few years and you have to wait 2-3 days to get simple things like brake pads and spark plugs, or pay the long buck at the dealer.
 
The guys selling left over NOS (New Old Stock) parts and production over-runs, purchased at only 10 cents on the dollar, have a big advantage over those who have to setup a new production line and build new parts to have something to sell. The alternative many manufactures are forced to take is to declare some low volume parts NLA (No Longer Available) to avoid investing in a money loosing low volume production runs.
 
That just seems to be the way it is anymore. If you want to pay a fair price for anything, you have to go online. Your pump is less than $100 on RockAuto, and the fuel shut off solenoid is less than $200. The relay switch is insane. That part appears to be $14-22 on rockauto.
As far as everyone saying that the parts prices are OK, and it's an uncommon part, etc, I disagree with that. I understand the limited production thing, but the vast mojority of the time, that's not the case. It's not like they're giving away parts on new vehicles. These parts are mass produced by the millions for pennies on the dollar of what a dealer charges. The dealers charge what they can get away with on the newer stuff. I can understand that some parts can cost $50, but could be built for $10 with ebay components, which means the manf. of the part has more like $5 in it There's a cost to that convenience, labor, etc. I feel that charging $250 for a part that cost the manf. $5 + labor is gouging, plain and simple. These guys can defend it all they like, that doesn't make it right
 
(quoted from post at 18:00:25 06/28/17) That just seems to be the way it is anymore. If you want to pay a fair price for anything, you have to go online. Your pump is less than $100 on RockAuto, and the fuel shut off solenoid is less than $200. The relay switch is insane. That part appears to be $14-22 on rockauto.
As far as everyone saying that the parts prices are OK, and it's an uncommon part, etc, I disagree with that. I understand the limited production thing, but the vast mojority of the time, that's not the case. It's not like they're giving away parts on new vehicles. These parts are mass produced by the millions for pennies on the dollar of what a dealer charges. The dealers charge what they can get away with on the newer stuff. I can understand that some parts can cost $50, but could be built for $10 with ebay components, which means the manf. of the part has more like $5 in it There's a cost to that convenience, labor, etc. I feel that charging $250 for a part that cost the manf. $5 + labor is gouging, plain and simple. These guys can defend it all they like, that doesn't make it right
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Farmerboy, If there is so much money to be made why don't you set up a parts warehouse, bring in say, 200 $5 parts and when an order comes in for them dig them out and ship them out and bill only $200 each instead of $250. You will make a killing.
 
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