what will grandpa's tractor do now

I was working on my old Allis hay rake the other day. Trying to find new teeth for her{ by the way if anybody knows where to find the double teeth please let me know it is the one with the crazy wheel up front pro driven. Thanks}got to thinking about what a friend of mine said to me as we stood at an auction watching the scrapers buy all the old farm equipment up the other day. He said pretty soon our kids are not going to what went behind all those old tractors besides a marching band in a parade. Yeah I know you can go on youtube and still see some of it working, but there is still some use for that old stuff I think. i have a small farm and surely could use some of that stuff but scrapers drove the price so high it isn't worth buying and fixing anymore. Just my thoughts about Grandpas old tractor

You brought back a memory, when I was young we had an Allis Chalmer rake, swivel wheel up front, 3 gears (if I remember right) and a reverse for tedding, round holes in the plates the bars were fastened to, and I remember the double tines. Sure wouldn't know where to find them now.

I pulled Pop's old Oliver No. 11 sulky plow out of the trees, and slightly fixed it up. didn't need much. Man, that is one fine machine, it has adjustment levers and bars all over, it seems it can tilt and pivot as needed. I even have s spare plow moldboard. It will never go to scrap.

We have farmers up here who have older equipment almost exclusively. The areas the work aren't large enough to demand larger equipment, and it's actually more profitable for them to use older equipment. Yet another perk of this sparsely-populated area.

It was low and high gear, and a reverse for tedding. Can"t imagine how many times I greased that rake before I got to run it. Lots of bushings, some really hard to get to. here was a dual wheel option, for front and back, for wetter ground. Worst thing was going down the road and the front crazy wheel starts to wobble!

We had one also when I was growing up.We always pulled it with our 8n Ford.Dad used it 41yrs.It had the dual wheel option added too.But Dad modified the front location to the left side in front of the reel.Mark

I still have some teath left, will try to remember to look tomorrow, where are you located?

Can you post a picture of what the teeth look like. Several years ago I bought an item at a sale and there was a box with rake teeth in them I just guessed they were JD as they wer painted green. I think they are a double tooth on each one

They can come to my place and spend the day.If you think old equipment should be saved then put up the $$$ to save some,out bidding scrappers these days ain't a big deal.
Also on the selling end you can do your part I sold a IH truck Sunday that my uncle bought new in the 50's for less than scrap value because the buyer is going to rework and
repower it.

(quoted from post at 18:05:17 06/13/17) I was working on my old Allis hay rake the other day. Trying to find new teeth for her{ by the way if anybody knows where to find the double teeth please let me know it is the one with the crazy wheel up front pro driven. Thanks}got to thinking about what a friend of mine said to me as we stood at an auction watching the scrapers buy all the old farm equipment up the other day. He said pretty soon our kids are not going to what went behind all those old tractors besides a marching band in a parade. Yeah I know you can go on youtube and still see some of it working, but there is still some use for that old stuff I think. i have a small farm and surely could use some of that stuff but scrapers drove the price so high it isn't worth buying and fixing anymore. Just my thoughts about Grandpas old tractor

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Thing of it is they don't care what went behind that old tractor. And why should they? Old implements in general are not historically significant unless of course they are the first to use an idea/type. Other than that it's just an old implement often overshadowed by time. I know, bad attitude on my part.

What has to be considered by each farmer is practicality/cost effectiveness. If for example you work on an implement for 2 weeks to use it one day and this happens every year is it practical in the eyes of the user? Parts availability is another factor. After all, your time is worth something. IMO at least minimum wage. Spend 40 hours looking for that's NLA? Gotta add that you time is worth to the price of that part. Gotta also figure out what you want to be doing? Wrenching on old junk? Fishing with grandkids? Spending time with the wife?

In the end? Most young people today don't really care what grandpa did for a living much less details of that job. That don't mean they don't love grandpa, but what he did for a living isn't what's really important to them.

Rick

Collectors have done far worse damage to themselves than scrappers ever will.

How many people have piles of old horse tack and horse drawn equipment lining their driveways? How many house wives keep a wringer washer around so their daughters know how one worked?



I don't have piles of old IBM 8088s, Minolta 1114s and 5.25 floppy disks and I spent 10s of thousands of hours working with that equipment - and I was glad to see everyone of them get scrapped when I got new equipment.

Were never that many around but should do a very good job. At the time they were sold the rake of choice was a New Idea No. 4 and I cannot find enough of them as of now to meet the demand I have for them. I rebuild rakes for the Amish and they can only use ground drive. A couple of years ago I asked on here if anybody needed any parts as the friend-operator of a small local salvage yard had got one in that had been cut up before it was brought in and thought the parts were too valuble to scrap but I go no replies. I don't know if he has any of the parts left. I am now having problems with Moline teeth no longer being made but I have found teeth from a McCormick that fit. I can check with my supplier when I get back up to see him and get the teeth he ordered in for me if you want. How many teeth do you need, that rake would use 64 teeth total. And teeth come in a 50 tooth box. The last time I found teeth at a farm store my supplier was about half the price on the farm stores. The double teeth he is getting for me and others I asked about are all between $2.25 and $ 2.95 per tooth. He has a catalog of dozzens of teeth for not only rakes but other implements but only is interested in rake teeth or possibly some tedder (no basket type) teeth. I am in Ohio but my supplier is in Indiana but could I believe get a box shipped to you. He has no phone or computor connections.

Live in Moraine Ohio just south of Dayton Ohio. I didn't mean to upset some of you about the old implements. I guess what I was getting at was I miss them. A lot simpler time at least for me

I put on I thought new were avaible. If you want the part No. is AC#511506 and they are %3.25 each in lots of 50 as that is the way the factory sells them. And from your other post you are within driving distance of the dealer that can get them. Post back here if you want the name and address. Just talked to them today.