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Note I only bought one new vehicle in my life. That was in 1987 and it cost me $5700. NEVER again. I have never had a car payment and never plan on it in the future.

I went to the county fair here in northern Michigan last year and saw a new Ford truck for $60,000 and almost had a stroke. I paid $3000 for my rust-free 1994 diesel 4WD F250 around 15 years ago and it will likely outlast me.

I was just at the local Autozone parts store and a very shiny truck pulled in. The guy parked in such a way to take up three parking spots. I looked at it and all the writing on it said "Shelby" and "Supercharged." I finally noticed in small print in the back "Ford F150." I just looked it up. From what I see - only 5000 are being made in 2017 and they are $102,000 each. I could not live with myself if Ford gave me one for free and I had to just pay the sales tax. I find this absolutely amazing (that someone is willing the burn up that much money) or go that much into hock for a hunk of steel that will turn to rust (or corrode).
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Don't forget, the new Ford pickups have aluminum bodies, cab, doors, hood, box. Kinda hard for them to rust.
I look at the $60,000 to $65,000 half ton pickups and $80,000 3/4 ton trucks at my local dealer. Just makes me that much more determined to keep my 96 F250 reg cab 4wd PSD running. I ordered it last week of March '96, drove it home 13 weeks later June 27,1996.
 
The suckers are probably lining up to buy them. No wonder the financial experts are saying that people aren't saving enough money for retirement.

On the bright side, the prices of good used pickups are going up because sensible people won't spend that big money for new.
 
Frames can still rust. There is also the dissimilar metal electrolysis issue to deal with. Hopefully Ford has that figured out. I love my 1994 IDI diesel 4WD. Over 300K and runs like new. Hopefully will outlast me. Truth be known I hated Fords until I got this one. So now I am a "born again" Ford lover.
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Mine has over 301,000 miles too. I've done something like 110 oil/filter changes in the 21 years I've had it. New LUK clutch at 240,000, first brake job was at 250,000 miles, had a good local shop replace rusty brake lines, calipers, wheel cylinders, master cylinder, and recharge the AC that had never been touched last year. Had stainless steel lines from Classic Tubular installed. Engine starts and runs like new, burns the first quart of oil in 600-800 miles and the level stays there till 3000 miles just like it did in 1996 & 1997. I used to put 32,000-33,000 miles a year on it. Oil change once a month!

It's my third Ford pickup, think it's my last too.
 
That's the worst I've seen for a pickup that size. I've seen some heavy Ram "Haulers" in the Bluegrass area of Kentucky up in the high $90,000 range,but that's ridiculous for a half ton.
 
Can't argue with your philosophy, have only bought 2 new vehicles so far. Never thought I would live any different, until I had to make a decision on my next vehicle.

I see that most of the trucks out there today are extended cab models, loaded with extras or modern feature. Thankfully, not all. I bought a left over '16 F150 regular cab, short box in February. It's perfect for what I need a truck for. 21-22 mpg on the highway. Dealer ordered it with some extras, so for an XL, it's very nice. I had it undercoated and got the drop in bed liner. This 2.7 ecoboost is very responsive, it accelerates quickly if you need it to. The deal I got was as good as it gets with the incentives. My deal at work includes a car allowance, that I was just saving, but when you are busy, don't have time for repairs or repair projects, have to travel a few times a month, it just made sense. I still don't like that it I did it, but sure is nice to have a truck again.

I looked for something for 8-10 months that I could pay cash for and either they have 200K miles, not in the condition I want or sell before I can get to them. And even at that, not a daily driver, so I still would need a car. This one covers both and it costs me a bit more on fuel than I was paying for the small car I was driving at 30 Mpg. This truck also feels a lot safer, as I would not want to have gotten in an accident with that small car.

Technology is impressive, not sure about longevity or problems, which any vehicle will have at some point. A standard shift bare basic bones truck of the past is about all I really needed, but so far so good with this new one. If my job was no more, it would be the first thing to go just the same.

The payload and towing is impressive, the darned thing has 17" wheels and can carry a ton in the bed, which I still cannot believe. Today's 1/2 tons are what yesterdays one tons were.

I know a few with those platinum models and another friend with a 50K GM product, I paid half of what those go for with 0% financing, most of which is an expense paid for by my job, and trust me I earn every bit of it, not any easy gig by any means. There is no way I would consider one of those luxury models, this one I have is luxurious beyond what I would ever need. It's crazy when you think about the above, even if I had it to burn, there is just no way I would pay or invest that much in any vehicle.
 
I think they are going to make only 500 of these. They are going to be a limited edition production truck just like Ford did years ago with the Shelby Mustangs.
 
Only new vehicle I ever bought was a 1986 Dodge Ram 50 made by Mitsubishi. Spent just over $9k. I'll probably have to spend more than that on my next truck, which will be another 1980's model. .....Maybe 1970's!
 

I have to chuckle whenever I see those ads talking about the "special" incentives and rebates. "You can save $3,000".

Wasn't all that many years ago when a brand new pickup truck didn't cost $3,000.
 
I am ith you jd. I bought new trucks in the '70's. A 71?$1800, 73?$3000, a fancy 76 ?$6000 and lastly I ordered one of the first diesels in 78. All but the last one were good value. I was into mail transportation at the time . The most I paid was $7200 for that diesel pos. Ever since then I always buy 20 year old trucks for $2000 or less. My last mail truck was an 86 Dodge I paid $1600 for and put over 100,000 miles on. My current ranch truck is a 92 ford 5.8 5 speed I paid $1800 for, I like it fine. I would not want one newer than 2000, they are all junk.
 
In reply to . . . "The payload and towing is impressive, the darned thing has 17" wheels and can carry a ton in the bed, which I still cannot believe. Today's 1/2 tons are what yesterdays one tons were."

I think that is kind of a myth. I think people just choose more options now adays since they often base the price on a monthly payment instead of actual total cost. In 1978, a F100 could be ordered with a 3600 lb. payload capacity and a F150 with a 3800 lb. payload capacity. Just like then - trucks today can be ordered light or heavy. Even a 1955 Ford F100 could be ordered with a payload capacity of 1900 lbs.
 
Dad bought a new half ton Chevy in 1966 for $1795. He could have gotten a GMC $5 cheaper,but it was 20 miles farther from home.
 
I got my aunt real good with that one one day. I was hauling hay off their place with my 85. I stopped and was sitting on the porch with her and Uncle Earl. Aunt Doris said "When are you gonna buy a new truck?". I asked her if she thought people would like me better if I got a new one. Earl leaned back in his chair and laughed,slapped me on the knee and said "I like you just fine with this one.". Doris didn't know what to say.
 
I've been down to the dealer lots in town and you talk about sticker shock! Ain't no way am I going to spend that kind of money for a new pickup. It was bad enough when I bought my 2011 Ram Mega Cab. That is going to be my last new pickup.
 
I'm almost 60, I bought two new pickup's​ in the late eighty's plus a new one last year. I had a company vehicle for alot of years so I didn't go thru many vehicles those years. With the new trucks and other used ones I don't think I have spent a hundred thousand on all of them.
 
(quoted from post at 12:41:29 05/14/17) But just think of all the showing off to the neighbors you will be able to do with that truck.
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And think of all the people you meet on the road, who you don't know, who are impressed!! It's got to make you feel really good for all those strangers to look up to you. Oh, sorry, I didn't notice, just another overpriced vehicle driven by a sucker.
 
With the warranty and all the electronic gismos you don't really own it, you are just paying for the privilege of driving it.
 

Sounds like owner would have stroke if someone chunked piece of firewood in the bed. Didn't buy a truck, bought "display piece" he could also drive.
 
Got 20 miles of gravel roads out here. Between the dust, mud and/or snow, don't have to worry too much about impressing anyone with a fancy truck. It's hard enough just to tell what color they are! :lol:
 
I got a chuckle out of a local add for a new F250 for "ONLY" $73,000. It was a loaded King ranch. In the same add they had a XL F250 4x4 crew cab for $33,000. I sure don't see that extra $40K ever paying for itself.
There have been several adds for 4x4 crew cab work trucks in the low $30K range.
I can't imagine spending $100,000 for a pickup, even if I had it to blow.
 
My new 2007 GMC work truck end of year sale, $13400 out the door sales tax included. GM was hurting before the 2008 crash.

Don't plan to buy another truck until the classic style returns.
 
Some one has to buy the new ones so the bottom feeders have something to buy is a few years.-------Hold on, I will pop some popcorn and get me a beer and wait for the replies----Tee
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I planted some maters form my mom on the side of the car port. Today I put cages on them and drove a couple 6 1/2 foot T-post in the ground to keep a storm from blowing them over.

My 2006 $1500 Honda accord was sitting under the carport I stuck a T-post in the ground it fell while I was picking up the driver and hit my Honda it put a good scratch in it. I was glade it did not hit a window it would have cost me a $100 for sure the scratch I can live with :D

A 100K truck it would have taken some good drugs to get over it.

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I know a guy who does have that kind of money to blow. What he does is run over to his Ford dealer and put down a deposit and signs up for one. Next he goes on line and starts shaking the trees. He has made some some Pretty good bucks doing the speculate game.
 
(quoted from post at 14:17:06 05/14/17) I've been down to the dealer lots in town and you talk about sticker shock! Ain't no way am I going to spend that kind of money for a new pickup. It was bad enough when I bought my 2011 Ram Mega Cab. That is going to be my last new pickup.
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There are deals out there, you just have to wait for them. I bought this new Duramax WT last November for $42k plus tax. I use it for my business, so it is a tax write-off. Nice to drive a new rig and have it pay for itself. I only pay cash, haven't had a car payment in 30 years.
 
We went truck drooling here about a month ago (eastern Canada). New 3/4 ton GMC Denali diesel $95 000 CDN before tax. Dodge Larimie 3/4 ton diesel almost fully loaded $87 000 and they didn't have the manhood to even put a sticker on the fully loaded 3/4 ton long horn beside it lol. By the looks of some of the prices listed new trucks in the US are atleast $20 000 cheaper than here in Canada.
 
In 2005 I paid $100,000 for 3 brand new Dodge Ram 2500s. Still have one of them. 334000 miles and still wouldn't worry about driving cross country with it.
 
(quoted from post at 21:54:33 05/14/17) What new vehicle did you buy in 1987 for $5700? Maybe try 1977.
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Yeah I think I paid around $6300 for a Chevy Cavalier from Sundance Chevrolet around 1988....it was the stripped down version but they put a sunroof, racin stripes and fancy wheel covers on it :D
 
(quoted from post at 14:34:50 05/14/17) Note I only bought one new vehicle in my life. That was in 1987 and it cost me $5700. NEVER again. I have never had a car payment and never plan on it in the future.

I went to the county fair here in northern Michigan last year and saw a new Ford truck for $60,000 and almost had a stroke. I paid $3000 for my rust-free 1994 diesel 4WD F250 around 15 years ago and it will likely outlast me.

I was just at the local Autozone parts store and a very shiny truck pulled in. The guy parked in such a way to take up three parking spots. I looked at it and all the writing on it said "Shelby" and "Supercharged." I finally noticed in small print in the back "Ford F150." I just looked it up. From what I see - only 5000 are being made in 2017 and they are $102,000 each. I could not live with myself if Ford gave me one for free and I had to just pay the sales tax. I find this absolutely amazing (that someone is willing the burn up that much money) or go that much into hock for a hunk of steel that will turn to rust (or corrode).
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You know what they say about a fool and his money...
 
June, 1987. Brand new Nissan Sentra. $5670 price. They were advertised as a special all over New York state. Most stripped down model they had. 4 speed manual instead of 5 speed. Manual steering. Roll up windows. No AC and no radio. I am not such an idiot that I do not know 1987 from 1977. My 1st wife insisted on getting it and I did not even know her in 1977. My mom bought a new Chevy Chevette in 1987 for $4900, so it was even cheaper then our Nissan. She had at first priced a new 87 Ford Escort but that was $5900.
 
Probably get a discount if you bought two.I did know a fellow that bought a new Shelby Mustang drag raced it and ran the heck out of it parked it in his garage after he screwed up the engine it sat for over 25 years and he got more for it in that condition than he paid for it.
 
The ranch we worked on back then. Bought two GMCs. Owners wife insisted one have a radio. His truck. The one we drove didn't have one. Until dad paid the dealer 12.00 dollars to install it.
 

We have friends that had sold their construction materials mfg. business some years ago who only buy new and only upper end of the line vehicles. Right now they have two '15 Caddy Escalades (one the extended version) and a '16 Ford 150 Platinum. If folks like this didn't buy the new ones us lower level buyers wouldn't have anything available.

Was just talking to the wife about this topic and we'll have to keep our '05 Silverado 2500 HD going. We can put a lot of money in it and still not be near the price of a new one or even a newer used one. With only 83,000 miles on it, it will be awhile before anything major is needed.
 
(quoted from post at 10:25:11 05/15/17) Ha! Don't get too smug. Priced used 4wd pickups lately? The prices are even further out of line for the mileage.
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When I bought the truck I have now I was looking at used 4x4 trucks. I bought mine new for less than I could buy a used 3-4 year old truck that had 75K miles or more. I use my trucks to work so I buy work truck package. Most of the trucks sold now are sold to people who don't work them and want them loaded. All that stuff is nice but it comes with a high price tag.
 
You have to admit though, that a 750 hp F-150 with a race quality chasis would be pretty cool. Especially out of a 302 sized motor.

Was at a Dodge dealer a while back and was drooling over a Challenger Hellcat. Can't afford it, but that doesn't mean I don't want it.
 
I bought my last new truck in 1991....My current truck is 20 years old and I bought it 2 years ago..
 
Th only thing that bothers me about the aluminum body is that road salt corrodes aluminum just as quickly as steel, maybe more so.
 

In the 1970's it was not unusual to see three year ford trucks with doors and rockers perforated with rust. New vehicles can go 12-15 years if salt washed in the spring and re-oiled.
The cost per year becomes almost reasonable .
 
(quoted from post at 06:15:48 05/15/17) If you are looking at a 750 HP toy I'm surprised you even looked at the price tag.
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REALLY? If you don't look at and price things that you have no intention of buying, just out of curiosity, I bet that you are the only one.
 
I've got the factory HELM service manuals for 1978 Ford trucks, ALL Ford trucks. There's no F100 or F150 with a 3500+# payload capacity. F100 was less than 5500# gross vehicle weight, F150 was 6200# gross vehicle weight. My '78 F150 SWB regular cab pickup with 300-6, NP-435 4-speed, NP-205 cast iron t-case, Dana 44 front axle, 9" rear axle, PS/PBS, no tilt, cruise or AC, weighted around 4800# empty and almost out of gas.

I did have over 3000# in it a time or two, and was SEVERLY overloaded.
 
Meaning that if that's the kind of toys you are used to buying, I'm surprised the price of it is even a consideration. The same way I might look at a baseball glove for my son, we walk into Dick's Sporting goods and he tries on a couple and we buy the one that fits best and is most comfortable - I might check the price as we are checking out on a $50 item. Some people are the same way with $100,000 toy.
 
Don't worry about them ever rusting. In a few years, the collectors will have 95% of them scarfed up and stored in dry, heated garages.
 
Yep. And then they wonder why they don't appreciate in value. No one has seen them on the road, no one drove them when they younger (couldn't afford them) and no one really wants them just to park in their garage. Watch the Barrett Jackson Auction or Mecum Auctions and you see cars that sold for over a $100K (some times a lot more) back in the 1990s early 2000s that still look pristine today (who's going to tear up that expensive of a car?) and they bring $30,000-$50,000 today. You'll see it with the more "common" Porsche, BMWs and Ferrari. The biggest losers are the Rolls Royce and other super luxuries. I guess who wants to be rich and drive around a 10 year old car?
 
Bought 1 new truck 1973 F150 for $3100.00 with taxes. Current truck 1996 Dodge 3500 purchased in 1998 $19000.00. Never wear it out only 180,000 miles. Cummins gets 18 mpg empty and 12.5 pulling my 35' 5th wheel.
 
(quoted from post at 11:47:02 05/15/17) You have to admit though, that a 750 hp F-150 with a race quality chasis would be pretty cool. Especially out of a 302 sized motor.

Was at a Dodge dealer a while back and was drooling over a Challenger Hellcat. Can't afford it, but that doesn't mean I don't want it.
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We differ on ideas of "cool" Don. For me, something link a Dodge Power Wagon (1950's style) with front, mid and rear PTO's, a winch and a dump box, updated to power steering and some other creature comforts would be "cool". And if I could get one for a decent price, all the better.

An F150 is near useless for me. More HP isn't going to help. Gotta be at least 3/4 ton! But, that's just me. I know others like other things. That's the beauty of living in a capitalist nation- FREEDOM OF CHOICE! :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 22:19:02 05/15/17) Bought 1 new truck 1973 F150 for $3100.00 with taxes. Current truck 1996 Dodge 3500 purchased in 1998 $19000.00. Never wear it out only 180,000 miles. Cummins gets 18 mpg empty and 12.5 pulling my 35' 5th wheel.
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Different situation for those who do not drive on salted roads.
 
(quoted from post at 11:21:30 05/16/17) Bret -- Another vote for the Power Wagon!!

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THATS IT!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: Even the right color!!! How many of those did I pass up for $500.00 back in the day?!!! STOOPID!!!
 
Bret, I've got HUNDREDS of photos I've saved from online. I like going through them now and then and just dreaming. Of course, I'll most likely never get one, and it would be impractical if I did. But BOY would it be fun!! :D
 
In 2014 both my kids graduated college. I went into the Toyota dealer nearby and told them I needed two bright orange Prius C, make it happen. Only new cars I ever bought, but the kids saved me billions with their scholarships.

The guy found them around the metro area, we haggled some, I wrote the check and the kids picked them up a few weeks later. Even though they were new, this is one of the best investments I think I've ever made. They take very good care of those cars, and both are now over 60k miles with zero issues. Kids have Important Things To Do, and can't be bothered with breakdowns. lol!

My plan on pickups is pretty easy. I buy a 8-10 year old model every 5 years or so. My last one was a 2006 Ram 2500 Mega cab 4x4 gas. I work hard to find family owned trucks, and not oil field beaters, or construction stuff. It takes time cause a lot of trucks get sold to commercial places, and finding a family owned truck requires a lot of looking. It was 9 years old when I bought it, and cost me $13,530 incl taxes, reg. My daughter is dating a guy has a 2015 Ford diesel crew 4x4. He paid over $50k for it, and it was a year old! My truck gets similar fuel econ, hauls the same, tows the same, and has pretty much all the same features except he has a nicer stereo/speakers.

Wonder if it was worth the extra 37k.
 
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