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550Doug

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I bought a tap & die set years ago and haven't really had a need to use it, until today.I have a piece of 3/4 inch partially threaded rod in which I had to extend the thread another 2 inches. So I went to this tap & die set and found a die labeled as 3/4 NC10. I put it on the existing thread and BINGO, it fits. So I proceed to cut about 2 inches of extra thread. I do a few passes and then test with a nut. The nut of course runs over the original thread nicely but it stops at the new thread. It will not thread onto the new threads even with elbow grease.
So I looked at the original threads and they seem to have a sharp point where as the new threads have a rounder top profile. Then I checked the die more closely and found the word Tungsten M20 2.5 and then it dawned on me that this die might be METRIC!!
If that is the case is there anything that can be done to get the correct threading?
 
Well, as you found, M20 is nominally 0.787" as opposed to 0.75" for 3/4". Can you just go back over it with a 3/4" die? Some better dies will have an adjustment (usually a screw in the side of the die or some similar arrangement) to change thread engagement--you MIGHT be able to close it enough to make it work, though if it's anything critical I'd just start over with the right die.
 
That is a 20mm dia, 2.5mm pitch is .0985 inches per turn compared to 10 TPI or.100 inch. 3/4 is a shade over 19mm. If you get a 3/4-10 die it probably would recut to a useable thread.
 
.984 is the inch equivalent to .100 which is the inch equivalent to 10tpi. I think it will work well to
rethread with a 3/4X10 die. Jim
 
When I'm threading with a tap or die, I always go a turn or so and then back off the same amount to clean the threads as you go and use lubricant of some type. Hope this helps and if your die screwed on over the existing thread, then it is Nc 10 and not metric.
 
Funny I just responded on the tool forum about the value of having a set of thread gauges. A good set of thread gauges will save you a lot of headaches. Get NPT, various metric sizes in two or three pitches and standard thread course and fine. Another habit of mine is to fit-check a questionable thread with known fastener sizes and threads before machining, threading or assembly.
 

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