Hit Miss ID

Jeff NWOH · May 8, 2017

Found this laying in the scrap pile at the local yard. I doubt it will ever run again as the flywheel it was laying on is cracked pretty bad and it's missing some parts, but I thought it would make a nice yard ornament in front of my shop if nothing else.

Any ideas on make and model? Only marking I see is D4 on the flywheels.

Thanks for any info. The extent of my knowledge of this engine is that it weighs 1080 lbs.

jd adict · May 8, 2017

dont know nothing about that particular engine but pat yourself on the back for saving it.
I just cant believe stuff like that is still being hauled to the scrap yards and being melted down.
I would have thought with all the cell phones and technology that old iron like that would not even be
loaded with the rest of the scrap. imagine what else the uninformed mentalists have THROWN away.
most of these scrappers have one thing in mind and thats a few bucks cash from scrap.
oh well their loss is your reward.
congradulations on your new find and thanks again for preserving a nice piece of history.

Eric in IL · May 8, 2017

Lots of its features make me think it is an Ohio engine, but I am not sure if they made one with 5 spoke flywheels.

Mike M · May 9, 2017

Too bad the junk yard dogs ruined the flywheel !

Butch(OH) · May 9, 2017

Seen a LOT worse than that get fixed. If it is what I think it is there is more than a little bit of value there. Post that picture and question over on SmokStak and you will get an answer as to what it is and likely several "is it for sale??" questions. Nice find!

buysengines · May 9, 2017

That is a rare engine, definitely worth saving and making run again. I'd be interested in purchasing it, give me a ring. 703-505-7191

Kelly Barnett · May 9, 2017

Now I did link this info to a group that might be able to ID it. Now, there might also be some of those guys that will try to track this down to try to purchase it to rebuild it to running shape. Just a warning. I thanks you for saving this old girl. It is not a common engine in that it has 5 spoke flywheels with a sideshaft. This is a desirable engine in the collecting world. Even with the missing parts and the broken flywheel it can be fixed to a running engine once again.

buysengines · May 9, 2017

It is an early Underwood engine, the predecessor to the Ohio engines. I attached a picture of a restored one. Too bad it was tipped on its side. Probably have to cast a new flywheel and make some other new parts. Definitely a worthy project though.

gasenginetom · May 9, 2017

I would be very interested in purchasing this engine to bring back to life. I think it is a Buckeye.
Tom
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gasenginetom · May 9, 2017

opps forgot my phone # 614-306-0908 Tom
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PaGlenn · May 9, 2017

Get it running and post it on youtube. I want to see it in Action!

ed laginess · May 9, 2017

Hi Jeff,
I would love to add this early Ohio old style engine to my museum here in Michigan.
I am currently working on a larger size Ohio and making parts.
Please call me in regards to purchasing this engine if you are looking to sell it.
i would make you a good cash offer.
Feel free to check out my website
www.edsoldiron.net

All the best,
Ed
734-755-3609

Jon Rozevink · May 9, 2017

Hey Jeff
I like your engine. I am not to far away from you in Holgate Ohio.[b:dafaa8ea84][u:dafaa8ea84]I will $5,000 cash or more.[/u:dafaa8ea84][/b:dafaa8ea84] Please give me a call and we could discuss it.
Thanks
Jon Rozevink
419-789-1159

Ozlander · May 9, 2017

And let the bidding war start.

buysengines · May 9, 2017

Well Jeff, it's obvious you've saved a really rare and desirable engine. It's amazing to think this early engine was almost lost. It probably happens more then we care to think, but luckily you came by at the right time. As mentioned, it's definitely worth trying to restore into a running engine. If you plan to tackle the project, there are plenty of resources out there to help you get going.

If you decide to sell it, I'd appreciate it if you would give me consideration. I am a 3rd generation collector of antique engines, my website is wahlengines.com. I enjoy tackling tough engine projects like this and bringing them back to life. I post threads of all my restorations for others to follow and enjoy. Some of my recent projects are:
10 HP White & Middleton: https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143238
12 HP Root & Vandervoort: https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102408

I'd be willing to pay in cash more than what others have offered. And I also think I was first in line to offer to purchase this engine. Call me anytime at: 703-505-7191 if you would like to discuss. If not, I completely understand and best of luck! Thanks for sharing your find! Jeff Wahl

Kelly Barnett · May 10, 2017

Hmm, now I wish I would have gotten some popcorn ready for this. I figured I would start some interest in this by forwarding this on a different page. It came true. It boils down to a engine being saved from the scrap yard. The particular engine is one of only a few left. Pre 1900 / small / sideshaft / very very collectable. Jeff, I didn't intend for you to get blown over by others trying to buy this from you. Every now and then there are engines that spark interest in the hard core collectors. This is one of them. Are there others that would show interest in it, Heck Ya. They just don't know of this story yet. So it is a blitz going on to get you to commit to one of them before others get involved. You initially mentioned (I think) about putting out in a yard art display. There are many options for you, but an engine of this rarity should not be relegated to a rock garden display. It really deserves a chance to get rebuilt and ran again. Thanks you for having the insight to save this old gal. I hope the best for you and your decisions with this unit.

BobReeves · May 10, 2017

Wow! from the posts it sounds like you rescued the Hope diamond from the scrap yard. Good going, many people will be happy you got it before it ended up being the fenders on the next generation of Yugos.

Jeff NWOH · May 10, 2017

Well, to say I am somewhat suprised at what I plucked out of the scrap would be an understatement of epic proportion. I new it had some value, but mainly I thought it a shame for something so cool to be melted along with all the other crap on the pile. Fortunately, this yard let's its "regular pickers" buy.

I spent yesterday on airplanes and in airports watching this unfold in bits and pieces. My intent was not to hold an online auction here, but rather to find out what I had.

I now have several different opinions as to the make, but have been unable to find an exact match with any pictures online that I could find. I take that to mean it's probably pretty rare.

On the plus side, I don't have to move the boulder that is sitting in front of my barn where I was going to plant this engine now.

I'm on vacation for a week. I'm going to mull this over and do some more research as time allows. If anyone has any more info or can pin down exactly what it is, I'm definitely interested and grateful for any insight.

Thanks, Jeff

buysengines · May 10, 2017

Jeff, I tried uploading some pictures of a Buckeye engine. This is probably what you have.

buysengines · May 10, 2017

Jeff, I tried to upload some pictures of a Buckeye engine, this is probably what you have.

buysengines · May 10, 2017

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Jeff NWOH · May 10, 2017

Thank you. I believe you are correct. The angled main bearing caps are what I couldn't match on the other pics that google could find for me. That motor never made it very far from where it was built. Any idea of age?

Mark Shulaw · May 10, 2017

Congrats on the Buckeye rescue!

Redcow92 · May 10, 2017

WOW...good job of saving the old engine..now different set of problems...who to sell to or keep...good luck on the lil engine...by the way thats a good problem to have!

Jon Rozevink · May 10, 2017

I like auctions though!

My current offer is $6,000 or more. The pictures posted of the Buckeye were from an auction in 2004. I purchased that engine at that auction, unfortunately I couldn't afford to keep it at the time. It looks similar to the one found at the scrap yard in every way. It would be interesting to know if those engines were actually built in Delta or in Sandusky at the Ohio Motor Co. I don't have anything I call a museum but I do have a decent barn with engines inside and I welcome visitors

Thanks
Jon Rozevink
419-789-1159
Holgate Ohio

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