Rim inside tire

vezult · May 8, 2017

OK, so as a result of some actions which are too stupid to describe here, I've ended up with the rim of my tractor's front wheel, inside both walls of my replacement tire.

Any tricks to getting one wall of the tire back over the lip of the rim? Getting it on is pretty straight forward, but with the rim inside the tire walls, I can't seem to get any leverage, since it is free to slide around inside the tire. The rim is small enough that I can't really stand on it. I tried clamping the rim using a floor jack and a piece of wood (In the same way you might break the bead on a tire, but with the wood on the rim, rather than the tire), but it didn't grip well enough, and I was worried about using too much pressure and bending the edge of the rim.

This just happened before work this morning, so I've not yet had a chance to try very hard to rectify it, but if anyone has any neat tricks, or advice that would make this easier...I'm all ears. Maybe there's an obvious solution that I'm too irritated to notice

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Determined · May 8, 2017

I would bolt the rim back on to the tractor to hold it for you.
Lube it up good and use the bars.

If the depressed portion of the rim is toward the inside then bolting on the rim backwards will have it out where you can work with it.

paul · May 8, 2017

Two vice grips, two tire irons, and a clear path for parts to fly if they slip.....

Paul

kcm.MN · May 8, 2017

I "think" I understand what you're saying - is it that you have both beads of the tire on one side of the rim, and therefore cannot air it up due to the air leaking?

If so, get a strong rope (or ratchet strap) and loop it around the center of your tire. Tie a loose knot in the rope. Now insert a tire iron or equivalent and start turning; doesn't matter which direction. This will flatten out the center of the tread, which "should" help spread the beads apart so that it can accept air.

I apologize if I misunderstand your problem.

paul · May 8, 2017

I too was thinking of mounting the rim back on the tractor, jacked up and 'blocked well' so it doesn't fall on you.

Then put the top of the tire over the top of the rim, put a vice grip locked onto the edge of the rim to keep the loose tire in place, and follow around with tire irons. Sometimes that second vice grip is nice to have two clamps. The vice grip keeps the rubber from unzipping around the rim as you go. Don't ever grip the rubber with the vice grip, it is just on the edge of the rim so the tire stays inside the rim around the vg.

Paul

vezult · May 8, 2017

Doh, of course that makes sense. Thanks.

vezult · May 8, 2017

Vice grips are a good idea. I'll tray that, thanks!

Robert Major · May 8, 2017

Hi My guess is as said before put the rim back on the tractor as long as you got plenty of room to work. let the tractor down until the rim is nearly pinching the tire at the bottom but not holding it tight or cutting the rubber, support it properly on stands for the safety police.

Then work with the levers and soap to get one bead over. I'm guessing you might have to adjust the tire height as you get it coming off to get more slack in the rim and bead. I'm hoping this is not one of those stupid small lawn tractor tires thats real tight on the rim beads. I saw a guy do this once with a big 24" semi truck tire. He was swearing and going pretty good on the tire levers for 1/2 hour before I left the yard. I know he got it in the end how long it took I don't know, but I'm guessing he had to quit his job as a part time minister on sundays after that big outburst L.O.L.
Robert

Eldon (WA) · May 8, 2017

(quoted from post at 11:35:30 05/08/17) OK, so as a result of some actions which are too stupid to describe here, I've ended up with the rim of my tractor's front wheel, inside both walls of my replacement tire.

Any tricks to getting one wall of the tire back over the lip of the rim? Getting it on is pretty straight forward, but with the rim inside the tire walls, I can't seem to get any leverage, since it is free to slide around inside the tire. The rim is small enough that I can't really stand on it. I tried clamping the rim using a floor jack and a piece of wood (In the same way you might break the bead on a tire, but with the wood on the rim, rather than the tire), but it didn't grip well enough, and I was worried about using too much pressure and bending the edge of the rim.

This just happened before work this morning, so I've not yet had a chance to try very hard to rectify it, but if anyone has any neat tricks, or advice that would make this easier...I'm all ears. Maybe there's an obvious solution that I'm too irritated to notice .

Use the vice grip clamped to the rim as a starting point and work your way around the tire, putting your foot on the tire to get it into the drop portion of the rim. Make sure you are taking the tire off the side of the rim that has the drop closest to the rim, some wider rims have the drop offset, and you will not get the bead over the shallow side without ruining the tire....

redforlife · May 8, 2017

Lay tire flat on the ground. Use a heavy duty board to use as ramp. Drive a wheel of something else to depress the tire over the rim at one point. Use bars to get it half way on right side of rim. You might have to back off on the ramp so the bead hits middle of rim. Once over half done, continue until that bead is on the right side. Flip wheel over, and pry the other side on as normal.

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