Aftermarket parts fit GERRRR

BobReeves · May 6, 2017

Anyone else noticed the quality of aftermarket parts is really bad. Fixing up a Ford 3600 I have bought several parts, many from this site and had to do something to every one to either make it fit or make it work the way it was designed.

Price is right and some of this stuff is simply no longer available from NH at any price. So is everyone just accepting the shoddy quality and living with it?

Sprint 6 · May 6, 2017

Because it comes from China, and the importers have no recourse. If
they try to send it back, the China company pleads ignorance, or shuts
down. Once you buy something from China, you own it. The American
public needs to quit buying on price. Just had a Silverado in this
week with bad catalytic converters and a head scratcher rich
condition. Then I found the eBay special Mostplus junk China
injectors. Low cost injectors just got really expensive.

paul · May 6, 2017

It's a full circle tho, the auto and farm machinery manufacturers do the planned obsolescence, throw out old inventory for scrap price, or price parts 5x their value too, giving little choice but for us to turn to alternatives.

If we run old stuff we have to 'make it work' and deal with the issues.

Your injector story is one where it's a bad deal for sure.

I broke a spindle on my tw20 front, retired dealer suggested I go to NH dealer as the aftermarket from company yyyy aren't as good.

Went to dealer, he ordered me one, when it came he said NH no longer makes, here is the one from yyyy.

What are you going to do?

Paul

Ray · May 6, 2017

Oem parts are not much better.John deere makes a lot of parts that don't fit right
or are just poor quality.

RandyB(MI) · May 6, 2017

The auto collision repair industry has dealt with this since early '80,s with offshore parts/sheetmetal. Insurance industry seen it as a way to cut costs and wasn't until body shops flat refused to use the junk and educated their customers as to what THEIR insurance company was requiring us to slap on their car, that it got attention and pretty much changed. Some stuff got better and OEM prices came down because of it and most of the junk went away or got it right. Tractor rest./repair? They still know a tractor guy will just get out the welder / grinder / torches and do just what you did. Send the crap back and do just what you are doing..spread it around , not going to change until this happens more often. Business has been let to forget who's the customer....by those very customers. Food / entertainment industry is even worse.

Dean · May 6, 2017

Yes.

I avoid aftermarket parts like the plague and have done so for over 10 years.

Dean

Roger in Iowa · May 6, 2017

Yep, just installed a Yardworks hose end, solid brass, the best, but the hose clamp is 7mm, not 5/16 or 1/4". Made in
China of course...

oldtanker · May 6, 2017

(quoted from post at 08:37:45 05/06/17) It's a full circle tho, the auto and farm machinery manufacturers do the planned obsolescence, throw out old inventory for scrap price, or price parts 5x their value too, giving little choice but for us to turn to alternatives.

If we run old stuff we have to 'make it work' and deal with the issues.

Your injector story is one where it's a bad deal for sure.

I broke a spindle on my tw20 front, retired dealer suggested I go to NH dealer as the aftermarket from company yyyy aren't as good.

Went to dealer, he ordered me one, when it came he said NH no longer makes, here is the one from yyyy.

What are you going to do?

Paul

Part is planned obsolescence but a large part is if it sells. Each part has to have enough volume of sales to make it worthwhile to produce. Not like they can run off 1000 or something and let it sit on a shelf while they sell 10 or so year. Just isn't profitable. And making a part and selling it a loss is a sure way to tank a company. Just how many sets of points do you think they sell each year when you got guys bragging about getting 10 years out of a set? So they either stop making them or outsource the production.

Rick

Goose · May 6, 2017

You can argue this endlessly. Back when I had a body shop, I had occasion to replace the RF fender on an Olds Ciera. It was not an insurance deal, and my customer said an aftermarket fender was OK. The fender fit OK and looked OK when the job was finished, but there was a hidden manufacturing flaw that wasn't seen after the fender was installed.

Couple of months later, I replaced the RF fender on another Ciera with an OEM fender. Guess what? Same manufacturing flaw. I also ran into the same situation on a box side for a Chevy pickup. Metal identical, just primered differently.

So where does GM get their OEM replacement sheet metal?

BarnyardEngineering · May 6, 2017

Most of the "OEM" stuff comes off the same exact line in China as the "aftermarket" stuff. That's why you end up with the same poor fit and finish, just at a higher price with fancy packaging.

What I ask is, just how long do you expect manufacturers to support a machine? Is 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 years "planned obsolescence?" If it is, looks like the plan didn't work out too well.

620 John · May 6, 2017

I think you're right about "OEM" parts coming from the China factory as the aftermarket. A lot of JD parts come in packaging with "made in China" written on it. That's why I'm skeptical about buying some OEM parts because it can just be overpriced with "OEM" packaging.

RandyB(MI) · May 6, 2017

No arguement here...I have caught GM dealers selling the junk out of their parts dept also. Chrome grill/hl door with the what I called "burnt chrome" look which is / was an off shore trademark flaw. Went to dealership owner and that crap got cured quickly. Lot of crooks in all business. You either call them out on it or nothing changes. Not "GM" but rather the GM dealer parts dept working on net profit bonus at months end. Also found out the factories were using there old worn out dies for replacement parts as apposed to wearing out the new dies for replacments.

SVcummins · May 6, 2017

Well fiat stepped it up I guess buy getting parts from
India for there Italian based company

Meangreen · May 8, 2017

(quoted from post at 16:08:12 05/06/17) Anyone else noticed the quality of aftermarket parts is really bad. Fixing up a Ford 3600 I have bought several parts, many from this site and had to do something to every one to either make it fit or make it work the way it was designed.

Price is right and some of this stuff is simply no longer available from NH at any price. So is everyone just accepting the shoddy quality and living with it?

Know the pain well! This winter put a new radiator and water pump on my Farmall M. Two weeks before the thing was to be transported from my dad's shop to my house we find the radiator doesn't allow the nose piece to fit back on properly. Sent that back for a new one. New one is pretty close. The when we fire it up our best guess is the new water pump had a bearing that either didn't get packed or was just bad to begin with. That was returned too for a new one. This tractor project is going to drive me to drink.

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