Correct vs. Farmerized

FBH44 · Apr 12, 2017

How many of us are obsessed with tractors being "Correct"? How many value all the "Farmerized" improvements we see? Me personally, I vote Farmerized.

Kirk-NJ · Apr 12, 2017

I like them both. I like to see someone has taken the time and money to restore a tractor back to original condition. But I also like to see tractors that have been farmerized to made into a more useful tool.

Kirk

sms · Apr 12, 2017

I like farmerized, more interesting. I also like unrestored, good condition, nice patina tractors. I don't like tractors that look like someone with money bought all the NOS parts and built a new one. I guess I'm jealous I don't have that kind of money to spend on tractors. lol

D beatty · Apr 12, 2017

I like them both way but mine go to shows & pulls and keep them very close to correct.The only thing that gets me is guys giving old tractor a paint job that should be on a fancy car not a tractor.

K-Mo · Apr 12, 2017

Both. I have respect for someone who displays a high level of personal pride in meticulously restoring a tractor. Not those, who a friend of mine calls a "DuPont" overall. A shiny paint job and calls it restored.
For my fleet, it's mechanically maintained to perform their intended function reliably.

Brendon-KS · Apr 12, 2017

If the "farmerization" is done cleanly and with attention to detail it adds to my interest in an old tractor. I like seeing evidence of someone thinking through their special requirement and taking the time to do design and build it right. You see some custom jobs that look cobbled together using whatever scrap iron was on hand with no regard for aesthetics and these don't appeal to me - it just makes a tractor look junky in my eyes. My favorite vintage tractors are the ones that look nice but still get out in the field to be used for what they were designed for - to me those are the most "correct".

Pair-a-dice farm · Apr 12, 2017

I vote farmerized. I've got a friend who farmerized a piece of field equipment. It worked so well the manufacturer paid him for his idea and changed their design. He's now on their R&D team.
I even like some of the not so pretty "improvements". I've seen some pretty rough times in the farm economy, especially on the livestock side. Sometimes repairing something according to Hoyle just isn't in the budget. When I see these kind of repairs, it's like looking at a small piece of agriculture history. Personally I've done my share of them. If a quick fix works as well as a dealer repair and it costs much less, why change it?

ASEguy · Apr 12, 2017

They're both good looking tractors, but that Allis looks pretty good.

Jim in Ma. · Apr 12, 2017

I like them correct and running good.
That being said, I have no problem with a quick farmerized fix the job at hand needs to be done now.

David G · Apr 12, 2017

Would my MH44 EFI be considered farmerized?

Bret4207 · Apr 12, 2017

I guess this is the difference between a collector and user. I don't care what it looks like if it runs good and everything works. I've got ammo cans and aftermarket headlights hanging off most of mine, 12v alternators instead of gens, padded seats instead of a steel pan, modern hyd hose instead of steel tubing. Yes, it's nice to have good looking tractors, but you aren't going to take a "pretty" tractor out through the thornapple bush hogging or send up to the axles in the manure pile.

Dachshund · Apr 12, 2017

At a show, I like to see tractors restored to original condition - with paint. That said, I'm not a stickler for the "correct bolt" and so forth....BUT, I also pass by the ones like a Farmall M with the 350 Chevy in it....or an F-20 with a tree stuck in the frame.....A "farmerization" is one thing, but a "modification" like a car engine is just playing....
I know you need mods to compete in a pull, but I'm not that interested in pulling!
Just my 2 cents, everyone has their likes and dislikes....

Ultradog MN · Apr 12, 2017

Depends on what you call farmerized.
My little 3000 is actually a 3600 but wears the wrong tin, has the wrong engine, wrong fenders, wrong front axle, wrong pan, wrong charging system and wrong bunch of other stuff.
Is it farmerized or just wrong?
And is it wrong to be wrong?

oldtanker · Apr 12, 2017

A lot of the "farmerized" repairs were just cobbled together and have no appeal to me at all. Mostly because I've had to take some of that garbage apart and fix it right. Lot of em are downright unsafe. Now a mod that was well thought out and done right? Yea I like seeing those. Don't get me wrong. There was nothing wrong with a band aid repair to finish that last bit of planting or to get something home that broke in the field but you shouldn't see that on a tractor because that band aid repair should have been made right shortly after the job was finished or the equipment home. My BIL is king of the farmerized cobbled up repairs. Too often I've had to go over there to help with something and make an extra repair just to get the new problem fixed right.

Rick

Steve@Advance · Apr 12, 2017

David, no, that's "techmerized"! LOL

Destroked 450 · Apr 12, 2017

I have both and see no problem with farmerization if it's done properly and is safe.
I don't have any fully restored 100% parts and paint color correct tractors.

I do have a original unrestored 62 Ford 881 diesel in good condition with patina but no rust, I've been advised by many with restored tractors not to restore it.

I have tractors with modified lighting, charging systems, seats, tire and wheel combos, different fenders and hydraulic valve mods to better work with my farming operations.

I also have one tractor that is a mutt in the truest word.
It started life as a 69 Ford 4000 gas, select o speed with round fenders, over the past 26 years it has under gone several modifications and today it is a 4000 diesel, 8 spd with flat fenders and a complete 3930 front axle and hydrostatic steering, it also has LED lights, a Delco charging system, aftermarket gear reduction starter and late model cam driven tach that turns opposite of the original.
It is my main go to tractor and won't leave this farm until after I'm gone.

rrlund · Apr 12, 2017

If it's for work,farmerized for sure. What's the sense having something if it won't do the job you need it for,but don't do it if you're gonna show it and call it "restored".

jddrawbar · Apr 12, 2017

Whatever works for the owner.....it's their tractor & their business. Personally, if it's an old tractor I like it!

Goose · Apr 12, 2017

I agree.

Any tractor I own is going to work for a living, and in the process I might make certain "adaptations".

I won't, however, do anything that would prevent the tractor from being restored to its original state.

rvirgil_KS · Apr 12, 2017

How can it be wrong if it is fully functional

steve706 · Apr 12, 2017

The only time famerized comes into play in my eyes, is when the tractor is being sold, traded etc. As long as it isn't being passed off as original or restored, I couldn't care less what it's like. If I don't like the repairs or changes made to it, I won't buy it.

sotxbill · Apr 12, 2017

(quoted from post at 07:41:18 04/12/17) Depends on what you call farmerized.
My little 3000 is actually a 3600 but wears the wrong tin, has the wrong engine, wrong fenders, wrong front axle, wrong pan, wrong charging system and wrong bunch of other stuff.
Is it farmerized or just wrong?
And is it wrong to be wrong?

So the question is...

Is it a 3600 or is it a 3000??

I sold a 4600 that had a 4000 engine in it.. so what do you call it? It had the 4600 decals, and tranny to match... just the engine... was replaced, but had no place for the tach to run off of.

gab · Apr 12, 2017

I like a farmerized job, the kind where you have to scratch your head a while and wonder if it's factory or home made. I won't spend a minute looking at cobbled up junk. I like a nice clean original with straight sheet metal, and rust and patina isn't part of my vocabulary. But you own it and can do as you please.

Teakettle · Apr 12, 2017

All my tractors have non-original stuff on them (alternators replacing generators, AGM batteries, halogen lights, better-than-original seats, aircraft tires on the front, etc.) that make them more usable and safer. But I don't use the term "farmerized" for that sort of thing. I reserve "farmerized" for the stuff that I have to un-do when I get a tractor, things like cotter pins replaced with bent nails, parts of the wiring harness made out of zip cord, nuts welded to bolts...

Ultradog MN · Apr 12, 2017

Well said.
The correct police would have a stroke if they looked at the serial #.
But it's just right for me.

Rich'sToys · Apr 12, 2017

Some of mine have been painted (by me) but not restored otherwise. I represent them as such. My paint jobs don't look too bad--probably as good as the factory out on, but not like the restorers do now. I try to do the correct decals and such, but I don't worry to much about the "correct" bolts and things like that. There are plenty of things that the correct police would have an issue with. I would never refer to them as restored.

I would agree that the term "farmerized" should apply to things like bent nails where cotter keys should be and things like that.

I have a MM UB which was my Dad's. The original owner bought the tractor without hydraulics and Dad had them added after he bought it. He wanted the control valve set up a certain way and the dealer who installed it did exactly what he wanted. You will not see another one like it anywhere. You may call it farmerized if you want, but it's been on there almost 60 years and will remain on the tractor for as long as I own it!

rvirgil_KS · Apr 12, 2017

I consider my tractors correct if they work and function as they were designed. Original, No. Correct yes. Does that makes me an outcast and a rebel?

showcrop · Apr 12, 2017

Look closely at these two pics of my 901. Tell me if it looks correct or farmerized.

RBoots · Apr 12, 2017

I'm not a painter, so I won't paint a tractor for anyone. I have painted some of my own stuff, HOWEVER, every single thing of mine that goes through my shop gets mechanically checked over, all gears, bearings, etc. All worn parts are fixed or replaces as well as every seal, O-ring and gasket. But, if I can take something and make it better, easier to operate, or look cleaner than it did from the factory, I'll do that as well. A lot of times when repairing something I'll think, "why the heck did they do it that way?", when I know I can do a better way. I like to use ball joints and replaceable bushings in places that are going to wear. Have to make it look clean though, I cannot stand a poorly executed repair that is not neat and tidy, just the way I am. I take pride in undoing a cobble job and making it better and fixing it right. I always said my grandpa should have been a shoemaker, he sure was one h=ll of a cobbler.

Ross

David G · Apr 12, 2017

That is just pretty.

buickanddeere · Apr 12, 2017

(quoted from post at 02:10:38 04/12/17) How many of us are obsessed with tractors being "Correct"? How many value all the "Farmerized" improvements we see? Me personally, I vote Farmerized.

Farmerized usually means less functional, more dangerous, less value if sold or traded and all too often being butt ugly.

The Dukester · Apr 14, 2017

Right........"Jury or jerry rigged" pretty well sums up most farmer modifications found on old tractors....,but give you some scrap metal to
sell....before you start restoration.

Angle Iron · Apr 14, 2017

Looks like a good clean set up to me. And it was what the man who owned it wanted and worked for him from what you say.

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