Do you teach your kids

showcrop · Apr 2, 2017

To obey or scoff at the laws? When the subject of obeying traffic laws comes up, many on here express dismay at so many people running lights and generally disobeying the laws and putting others in danger. The big problem that I see here is that so often you see young parents running stop signs and lights, driving fast, edging out the driver who is trying to merge, and there is little Johnny sitting there on the passenger side taking it all in. So he is taught to bend or completely disregard laws. This is how kids learn. I wonder do these parents sit their little Johnny down at some point and explain just which laws are to be obeyed and which ones not?

Dick2 · Apr 2, 2017

In this area, the traffic laws do not apply to those who drive Mercedes or BMW's - or so the drivers seem to think! They ignore stop signs and make left turns right in front of you. Be on full alert if you see one of those vehicles coming at you!!!

Ken Macfarlane · Apr 2, 2017

I'd be pretty shocked if they took it in. Growing up in a rural
area I was completely baffled by traffic lights with walk lights
when I first started driving on my own. Wasn't automatic to
know who was going to walk where on the various
combinations of turn lights.

Didn't help one of the first cites I drove much in had no rights
allowed on red lights.

steve706 · Apr 2, 2017

If little Johnny is so aware of his parents driving, isn't he intelligent enough to look out the vehicles windows and see what ever other driver is
doing? Chances are he's watching the old guy in the truck speeding by or illegally passing while being oblivious to mom or dad. I have never
heard of a parent or anyone teaching a kid which laws should be ignored, kinda far fetched that a normal person would even consider
sabotaging their children......

JF in MI · Apr 2, 2017

Going back about half a century, my best friend's parents used to think nothing of drinking and driving. My friend died driving drunk at age 21.

flembo · Apr 2, 2017

You are right Showcrop,a lot of people don't realize everything they do around their kids is actually a lesson whether it's good or
bad. My kids are all grown up now and have kids of their own but I hope the lessons I showed them were good ones most of them
anyways. Both my kids grew up OK and so far the grand kids are doing well.

moresmoke · Apr 2, 2017

Some days I feel like I have a traffic
cop sitting in the back seat. Their
mother must be a better teacher.

Case Nutty 1660 · Apr 2, 2017

Sad to say but I have seen this "sabotaging" of their children Way too much here, my own step daughter and her ex are two prime examples, they taught my oldest grandchildren cops are never to be trusted and there are all kinds of ways to get things you are Not entitled too. I taught my two to show Respect and follow the laws but so many today do not, many young parents today do not teach and or show their kids like I was taught growing up, But there are a Lot of them that are very good parents as well,, as always there are good and bad parents
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Bret4207 · Apr 2, 2017

This is a problem across our society and isn't limited to just driving. Look at TV or the magazines on the news rack, watch most movies today, follow the lives of celebrities. There isn't much in the way of character, morals or ethics displayed. The days of Roy Rogers and Gene Autry doing "the right thing" are long gone. There is no God in popular culture because that would mean there is judgement, rules, right and wrong. "If it feels good, do it." that's the only commandment followed now. Don't be responsible, get a divorce as soon as it things get rocky, cheat on your spouse or significant other, cheat on your taxes, lie about anything and everything. It's the new American way.

What does the future hold with training like this?

Dick L · Apr 2, 2017

John Conlee tell about passing it on.
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grandfather smoked and had a taste for booze
next thing you know grandaddys son did too
and when that boy had children of his own
addiction was the only seed he'd sown

pass it on
pass it down
we all leave more than a headstone in the ground
pass it on
at the end
will you leave them all your love
or all your sin
you can make it right or wrong
pass it on

he had a different name for every man
or anyone who wasnt just like him
his children use the words they heard from dad
if their not just like we are we dont like that

pass it on
pass it down
we all leave more than a headstone in the ground
image: http://static.urx.io/units/web/urx-unit-loader.gif

pass it on
at the end will you leave them all your love or all you sin
you can make it right or wrong
pass it on

he could have left this world without a prayer
most of the fools he knew didnt care
instead he saved us all from being lost
and did it as they nailed him to the cross

pass it on
pass it down
you can teach your children he rose from the ground
pass it on
at the end will you leave them all his love or all your sin
tell em he rolled back the stone
pass it on
tell em he rollef back the stone
pass it on
By nnalert John Singing

JOCCO · Apr 2, 2017

Far as driving seems like everyone is in to much of a hurry I allow more time and let the hot rods go; will let a tractor trailer turn and not cut him off etc. As for kids, and dealing with boy scouts too, I try to teach some degree of manners, respect, tolerance and so on.

kcm.MN · Apr 2, 2017

Just watched a video the other day (from Motor Trend no less!!) that was on YouTube. It showed the guy in California doing a rolling stop at a stop sign. Other traffic was coming, so he pulled out without stopping -- which I really don't think he was planning on a complete stop anyhow. Also, no seat belt! ...I'd guesstimate his truck never got below about 7MPH for the stop sign.

Gary from Muleshoe · Apr 2, 2017

Around here it's not the kids that scare me,
it's the truck drivers. They seem to think
stop signs do not apply to them. Had one
wheel right out in front of me Friday as I
was going to work. I guess it is a case of
the bigger you are the more right of way you
have. I know it's a little harder to get
them going from a dead stop, but is it worth
a life to shift a few less gears?

4520BW · Apr 2, 2017

Same here!They are the worse to meet with a combine or tractor,to darn good to move over. Do you know the difference between a porcupine and a BMW? On a porcupine the pricks are on the outside.

Tom in Ga · Apr 2, 2017

We tried to teach our kids to do the right things in life. Now I am working with 3 Grandkids who lost their Dad 3 years ago. I try to set a good
example for them and try to teach them to treat people right and be fair in their dealings with them. I learned a lot from my parents and
grandparents. Not all by what they said, but how they lived. We went to Church every Sunday and they taught me right from wrong, how to
work and pay my own way and to always be fair and honest with other people. Today I would rather come up a little short than to try and beat
the other person. A man told me one time we are born naked and broke and maybe we can leave here in a new suit. I hope my Grandkids are
listening and watching more than I think sometimes. Time will tell.

Hay hay hay · Apr 2, 2017

I think a lot of people that feel sort of "left out economically, got the short end of the stick" see the highway as a
rare EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. A place where they can bend the law, get their share of the road, and elbow out the rich guy in
the BMW. and Yes, their kids notice it, and likely develop the same attitude.

Traditional Farmer · Apr 2, 2017

It ain't just rich folks look at the guy in the old pickup that killed those people in the van a few days ago.

Traditional Farmer · Apr 2, 2017

Read the newspapers,look at the TV news its pretty obvious who the folks are that have no respect for the law.Do you really think some person driving home from a day/night of rioting in the streets
is going to obey traffic laws?

Geo-TH,In · Apr 2, 2017

In my recollection, I remember the first people to show
disrespect for authority may have started with Bobby Knight, John
McEnroe, then a host of athletes. ..

There may have been others that preceded Bobby and John, but in
my lifetime those stand out.

Look closer at the news, they think cops are the bad guys. It's
like the news has their lib agenda.

oldtanker · Apr 2, 2017

Wife and I raised 7 kids. We did teach them to be respectful, obey the law and such. Youngest is 30. My oldest, a son was taught to drive by me. He was taught to make complete stops, leave early enough not to have to speed ect. Rode with him the other day. 5-10 over the posted limit, rolling, rolling stops, in a nut shell everything I taught him not to do. My other kids will not ride with him nor allow him to take their kids anyplace!

One of the worst bunch of kids I've seen in my life without getting into the inner city kids were a family of farm kids. Church every Sunday, taught to work Ect. Everything most on this forum thinks of as the "right way to raise a kid". One kid had a baby taken by the state at birth (unmarried teen) because she had METH in her blood. Youngest son has done time for shoplifting and the oldest for "things", not abusing ANIMALS! No I'm not making this stuff up! All this out of what most would consider a "good Christian home"! And I know they were taught better, they are related!

Kids have outside influences. Friends, neighbors......SCHOOLS! And it's nothing new. Preacher of my church back in the late 60's and his wife got divorced. Seems neither one knew just which bed they were supposed to be in. After we moved here to MN in 71 a preacher, not Catholic, from our church got caught molesting kids.

How many of you have gotten a ticket with a kid in the car and out of the cops hearing, in front of the kids, ranted about dirty cops filling quotas? And then you wonder why kids don't respect the law?

Rick

Stephen Newell · Apr 2, 2017

They are lucky if that is all they do. A lot of parents are cooking meth while Johnny is in the house.

OliverGuy · Apr 2, 2017

I do. I don't know if it will all stick, but I try. I tell them I've messed up before and hopefully they can learn from my mistakes. And also learn
from your own mistakes. Don't be like our neighbor with 4 dui's. plus, teach them how to drive when younger. A gator, four wheeler, anything.

rrlund · Apr 2, 2017

Laws,right from wrong,yes,it's our responsibility as parents.

This wasn't a driving issue,but I was at the Burger King drive through with the boys and I got back $5 too much in change. I had quite a time getting the guy in the window to realize he'd made a mistake. One of the boys asked me why I didn't just keep it? After all,they gave it to me. I didn't make a big deal out of it,I just told them they had made a mistake and it wasn't mine to keep. I don't know how much sunk in to them,but I knew they were right there watching. I would have given it back even if they hadn't been with me,but I wanted to make sure they knew I was giving it back.

kcm.MN · Apr 2, 2017

(quoted from post at 06:38:03 04/02/17) Laws,right from wrong,yes,it's our responsibility as parents.

This wasn't a driving issue,but I was at the Burger King drive through with the boys and I got back $5 too much in change. I had quite a time getting the guy in the window to realize he'd made a mistake. One of the boys asked me why I didn't just keep it? After all,they gave it to me. I didn't make a big deal out of it,I just told them they had made a mistake and it wasn't mine to keep. I don't know how much sunk in to them,but I knew they were right there watching. I would have given it back even if they hadn't been with me,but I wanted to make sure they knew I was giving it back.

I returned some money not too long ago - can't remember now what it was. All I remember is the totally confused look on the guy's face. It was like, "[i:7088dd69b0]Why are you giving this back? ...What an idiot[/i:7088dd69b0]!" Some people just don't understand the difference between right and wrong, and it's not always up to how they were taught.

Geo, remember James Dean? And he wasn't the first rebel, you know. I was lead-footed in my younger years (even while in the fire dept.), but slowed down as I got older. Funny...my Dad was always a great driver when I was young, but was a regular Speed Racer before he died! *lol*

rustyfarmall · Apr 2, 2017

I have grandkids who are old enough to be parents, so when you say "young parents", WHO taught them to drive? It wasn't me.

dr sportster · Apr 2, 2017

Wow , that was great . I never heard that John Conlee song. Her was one of my favorites.

Dick L · Apr 2, 2017

Didn't you or did you?

Check John Conlee's song words in my post below.

JMOR · Apr 2, 2017

(quoted from post at 08:32:24 04/02/17)

This is a problem across our society and isn't limited to just driving. Look at TV or the magazines on the news rack, watch most movies today, follow the lives of celebrities. There isn't much in the way of character, morals or ethics displayed. The days of Roy Rogers and Gene Autry doing "the right thing" are long gone. There is no God in popular culture because that would mean there is judgement, rules, right and wrong. "If it feels good, do it." that's the only commandment followed now. Don't be responsible, get a divorce as soon as it things get rocky, cheat on your spouse or significant other, cheat on your taxes, lie about anything and everything. It's the new American way.

What does the future hold with training like this?

ret, their motto today is,"we are here to have fun...and that's all".

kcm.MN · Apr 2, 2017

Sadly, that mindset is rubbing off on older generations as well.

Billy Shafer · Apr 2, 2017

My father taught me to obey the laws. Don't talk back to your teacher or the cops. Show respect. Because if you don't you can expect a very good butt
warming when you get home.

OH2IL · Apr 2, 2017

As a young millennial I have no respect for
officers or the law. Growing up, the cops
were never there when my parents or myself
needed them and they were there to harass me
when I did nothing wrong. In my suburban
town, I had seen many by-laws and simply
nuisance laws passed simply because one
person did not like what others were doing
and had connections to city hall.

flying belgian · Apr 2, 2017

Do as I say, not as I do!

The Dukester · Apr 2, 2017

Amazing you have feelings like that...and a very sad thing I think

showcrop · Apr 2, 2017

(quoted from post at 09:29:48 04/02/17) As a young millennial I have no respect for
officers or the law. Growing up, the cops
were never there when my parents or myself
needed them and they were there to harass me
when I did nothing wrong. In my suburban
town, I had seen many by-laws and simply
nuisance laws passed simply because one
person did not like what others were doing
and had connections to city hall.

Never heard of town by-laws. Or any town laws. towns have zoning regulations or ordinances. The state passes all of the laws.

Billy Shafer · Apr 2, 2017

Sad you feel that way. Because most cops are just doing their job. But I do understand about the rules of the town.Because of my family name. I am on the do not mess with list. I don't abuse the rating or like it. But I have to live with it.

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