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Very worthwhile post from new member Echo_Cons

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Echo_Cons posted this yesterday on a 16 day old thread on restoration tips. I saw it because I am on modern view but it would probably not be noticed by you who stick to classic.


"I have a 42 B that had the same symptoms your describing couple of old timers told me the starter was locked up. pulled the starter turned it over with the hand crank with no problem. put the starter back in and it fired up with the starter. no idea how the starter could cause the problem but its only two bolts to find out . saved me a lot of fixing"
 
If your a Farmall owner for very long that's old news. I have it happen a couple of times a year on all mine.
 
Same here and I may add sometimes it can be unlocked by rocking in gear, but removal and install always works.
 
(quoted from post at 08:07:30 03/29/17) Echo_Cons posted this yesterday on a 16 day old thread on restoration tips. I saw it because I am on modern view but it would probably not be noticed by you who stick to classic.


"I have a 42 B that had the same symptoms your describing couple of old timers told me the starter was locked up. pulled the starter turned it over with the hand crank with no problem. put the starter back in and it fired up with the starter. no idea how the starter could cause the problem but its only two bolts to find out . saved me a lot of fixing"
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always a good reminder.
Had a Farmall A do it last week....5 minute fix to unbolt, clean the drive and rebolt. You get to know the routine...low voltage, starter grunts, moving the starter lever does nothing at all, engine stuck....dang it.
John Deeres do it too....simpler...one allen head bolt...
 
I had an Oliver 99 that was locked up bought it at a sale that way,come to find out it was the starter locking up.If a low powered battery was used to start it,it would lock up every time
use a good battery and it was fine.
 

Same thing used to happen occasionally with the older cars and trucks. I remember as a kid, watching as a couple of men rocked a '54 Chevy, and then it started.
 
I have "fixed" a few locked starters by having some body try the starter while I hit the starter on the bottom with a big hammer. It has worked every time.
Elmo
 
The OEM starter on my '63 Ford 2000D got to where it wouldn't crank unless I punched the start button and hit the side of it with a hammer
simultaneously a couple of years ago. In short, the bushing at the back end of the starter was worn to the point where it would let the
armature short to the case. Hitting with the hammer would momentarily knock the armature up in the air enough to get power to stay on it long
enough to spin up properly.
 
My H's do it from time to time, usually as I am next up to the pulling sled. I keep a cheap combination wrench on the tractor at all times now. It seems that if you just bump the starter and not get a good engagement it will stick. With the H's there is no amount of pushing in any gear that is going to free the starter, you have to loosen the bolts.

OTJ
 
Had that happen on both Farmall H and Ford 2N. just loosen started about an eighth of an inch and wiggle a bit and tighten and ready to go. Ring gear being slightly bad will make then do this. New ring gear and problem ends.
 
I have a 55W baler with a C123 Farmall A,B,C engine on it. When the starter locks up there is a hole in the side of the bell housing that gives access to the ring gear with a screwdriver. Just a small movement and the starter drive will unlock, I believe it is a backwards rotation.
 
There is a new starter drive for Farmalls that is a dramatic improvment over the old flat wound spring style. Seems very good and
reasonable. Jim
 
I have 5 0f them with the old style drive. The only time that they lock up is when the battery is too low.

Bob
 
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