Oliver 70 wide front

Have any of you ever seen a wide front like this one? Looks like they used the narrow front pedestal to steer it. I never saw anything like it.

(quoted from post at 13:04:48 02/21/17) Have any of you ever seen a wide front like this one? Looks like they used the narrow front pedestal to steer it. I never saw anything like it.

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Never have seen one like that. Looks like someone put it together but hard to tell from pics.

Who ever built that had a hand in Building Delta Reds John Deere A ?

& Speaking of Delta Red?? I haven't seen him on here in a while?

There was a guy that put a combine axle under a 1650 could this be the same idea a rear axle of a self propelled combine then either yankee engineering or redneck welding.

That is the way some companys made them and I am not hat famiular with olivers but I don't from your picture see any other way to mount as that is a one piece pedistal the same as most of the John Deeres had in the 30's, 40's, & 50's did and that was the only way they could be mounted. Not like the Farmall H & M that had a 2 piece pedistal that you could unbolt the bottom off of to get the steering up to the bottom of the frame. If it was factory Oliver it would not have the pedistal for to put the wheels on for a row crop narrow front end. That way they could convert without having to replace the entire front end. Sears and Wards both had that type in their farm catalogs. It was more of a universal unit to give a way for farmers to get a wide without having to go to a dealer and but the entire front half of a tractor that probably could not be bought so they could have the wide that was needed for certian operations. They just had to have a mounting bracket that would fit the frame on a hundred different model tractors and then just hook the bottom to the tie rods to turn it. That same axle could be put on a Allis, Moline or Custom or Wards I think even a Silver King with single front wheel. Don't recall the price now but it would have been less than half to go to the dealer to buy.

Some of the Swartz after market wide fronts steered like that,had an AC WD45 with one on it.

Here is one that company that made them

RR I am with the others Schwarts, or some other make aftermarket. I had a 70 wide front, tractor was toast so sold it to collector. Kept the narrow front version, mine was factory, and different than that. Only regrets are wish I had gathered up a few more 60 and 70's!!!

(quoted from post at 14:04:48 02/21/17) Have any of you ever seen a wide front like this one? Looks like they used the narrow front pedestal to steer it. I never saw anything like it.

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There was one like that on an old fella's farm in Mercer county, Illinois back in the '1970s. I ran across him and the tractor wile exploring the more remote backroads. His looked homemade as the plates used were torch-cut and un-ground or painted. Also, the axle appeared to have been from a truck, but it had been turned over for more clearance. Never saw one before or since! I should have talked to him more!

Back in the 50s, where I grew up in Belgrade, MN, Ray Calendun patented a similar wide front attachment...using the steering pedestal to turn the wheels. His brand was Ray-C.

I had an axle JUST like that on an AC WC, but it was a Schwartz.

Those stay rods don't look like much. I can see dropping one wheel or the other in a hole...and folding them up.