marcusoverholtzer
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Would it be a good selling point to rewire and convert a 4020 to 12 volt? It needs rewired anyway but still works and I need to know if that would be a good idea to switch it over? Thanks
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accumulator
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What is a selling point????
marcusoverholtzer
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Something that would make you buy it more. Heres an example. Your buying a used JD 4040 and they tell you it has new tires.
jared in wi
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I think "new wire harness and 12 volt conversion" sounds better than "needs new wire harness." I'm not sure if you would get more money for it though.
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Steve@Advance
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That just depends on the preference of the buyer...
If I were buying it to restore, I would want all the original parts, wouldn't care about the wiring.
If I were buying it to put to work, I would definitely want good wiring, and dependable starting.
In either case it does need to be good enough to get it started. Not running, for whatever reason, drops the value greatly.
If I were buying it to restore, I would want all the original parts, wouldn't care about the wiring.
If I were buying it to put to work, I would definitely want good wiring, and dependable starting.
In either case it does need to be good enough to get it started. Not running, for whatever reason, drops the value greatly.
marcusoverholtzer
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The wiring is ratty and cracked and exposed wires and rotten cover.
I will put it this way. It is hard to recover large repairs/investments when buying and reselling equipment. To do a 12 volt conversion and a complete new wiring harness you can easily have $1200-1500 invested.
From your post below (JD forum) your JD 4020 is not a late model HIGH value one. A 1968 JD 4020 Diesel power shift is a good tractor but the value is not going to be any where as high as the later side console models bring. It has to do with what the collector market is wanting to buy. That is later model JD 20 series tractors. Your JD 1965 is more of a worked/using tractor over a collector tractor. Therefore the value is much less. I would say yours even with the recent overhauled motor would top out at $8000-9000 without new tires and good paint. You can not put new tires and good paint on it for what the resale value would increase.
To just resell it I would repair the harness. Get the charging system working to were it will start on its own reliably. Then quit. If you do more you more than likely will not recover the cost of the repairs.
From your post below (JD forum) your JD 4020 is not a late model HIGH value one. A 1968 JD 4020 Diesel power shift is a good tractor but the value is not going to be any where as high as the later side console models bring. It has to do with what the collector market is wanting to buy. That is later model JD 20 series tractors. Your JD 1965 is more of a worked/using tractor over a collector tractor. Therefore the value is much less. I would say yours even with the recent overhauled motor would top out at $8000-9000 without new tires and good paint. You can not put new tires and good paint on it for what the resale value would increase.
To just resell it I would repair the harness. Get the charging system working to were it will start on its own reliably. Then quit. If you do more you more than likely will not recover the cost of the repairs.
notjustair
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4020's are like gold here. I have the '67 that came to this farm new - it has two six volt batteries and starts as well as a 4020 will as long as the cables aren't corroded. The conversion won't up,the value, but its value is pretty good depending on place. Our 4020 is a little chore tractor we won't ever get rid of. The lights are suspect, the pump is totally shot, and it has 24,000 hours on it. It is still worth gold to us.
tomstractorsandtoys
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I would only convert it if you can do the wiring yourself. I make my own harness so the only big cost is the starter and a Delco Alt. and new cables. It is a very time consuming job running each wire then crimping ends and shrink wraping them. I them put the finished harness in black loom.You could make your existing harness look much better by repairing the worst wires and the adding the plastic loom to the entire harness. It will look much better and be safer as well. Getting money out of repair jobs is getting harder. I have a 4020 that we bought with water in the oil that owner said had been setting awhile. He lied as when tore down six of the main bearings are spun and the crank is junk. We put a gas motor we had out of a combine in it and are hoping to break even on what we have in it. Overhauling the engine correctly would make the tractor way overpriced, so rather than spend all the hours of time and get nothing we are selling it as a gas. Tom
Tracy Brown
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Couple of things come to mind. (1) What does the rest of the tractor look like. If it looks good and is in good operating condition as is, then "No". (2) If the 12v-24v system is giving trouble and the rest of the tractor is average at best, then "Yes" I would convert it to 12V to get it properly functioning. Unless it is a very very nice original or a restored tractor, most who buy a tractor this age should expect to work on it some and tweet it now and then. When I have a tractor for sale, my MAIN objective is "when you turn the key, it starts right up". If that does not happen, you as a seller are behind the 8 ball from the get-go and you start out trying to climb out of a hole. My 2 cents.
No. If the 24 volt starter and generator are still working, leave it 24 volt. If you convert it to 12 volts, you may get a quarter of your money back. Likewise on the wiring harness, if the old wiring is rough but works, I would sell it as-is. You can always install a new wiring harness later if you have trouble selling it.
Blackhole49
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Yes, that's defiantly the way to go, along with the turbo, paint and new tires.
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