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Onalaska angler caught with 2,500 panfish pleads no contest

An Onalaska angler caught with more than 2,500 panfish pleaded no contest Tuesday to four citations for exceeding possession limits.

Stanley Paalksnis, 74, faces fines totaling $24,683, although prosecutors agreed to ask a La Crosse County Circuit judge impose a $10,000 fine, revoke his fishing privileges for 12 years and order Paalksnis forfeit his 15-foot boat seized by authorities. He will be sentenced at a later date.

Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources wardens Nov. 4, 2015, on Lake Onalaska saw Paalksnis keep 47 bluegills, according to court records. The daily limit is 25.


In his boat and house, authorities found 2,066 bluegills, 418 perch and 88 crappies, reports stated. The possession limits are 50 for each species.

Paalksnis told a warden that for 20 years he was selling bags of fish for $5 in Chicago, reports stated.

The DNR issued Paalksnis seven citations for exceeding possession limits between 1989 and 2011 in Buffalo and La Crosse counties. His fishing privileges were revoked twice.

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/onalaska-angler-caught-with-p...
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JimS- I understand that possession limits vary from state to state. In my state, Bag limit is what can be caught/shot in one day. Possession limit is what you can have on you while hunting for two days. Possession limit does not include what you have in your freezer at home.
 
I used to go hunting or fishing ever chance I got until I was about 20 years old when I figured out girls and beer were more fun. Decided I wanted to go fishing again when I was in my 30s so wife and me rented a cabin in Hayward Wi. for a week 2 years in a row. I didn't fish over an hour a year, all we did is drive around to the neighborhood bars and eat and drink and talk to the local yokels. Did go in that big muskie at the fishin hall of fame or whatever it's called and went up to Bayfield and a few other side trips. Lot of fun, caught 2 crappies in 2 years.
 
Greg: I think your wrong. I can remember My Father talking about the game warden checking freezers for the number of game birds you had. So I think there are daily limits and total numbers you can have limits.
 
JD Seller- I have encountered that same question on some trapping forums. The rules vary from state to state. In my State, what I posted applies but, I've known others (from different States) tell me that the DNR can actually go in and do a count in their freezers. Not so, here in KY.

I'll post the regs in a minute....
 
JD Seller- Finally, I found it....

"Daily limit is the maximum number of a particular species or group of species a person may legally keep in a day or have in possession while fishing.".

"Possession limit is the maximum number of unprocessed fish a person may hold after two days or more of fishing.".

It has nothing to do with what you may have in your freezer.

hth
Poke here
 
I understand that this applies to fish but, I'll find it for game too, ...I hope. lol

It was that way last year...
 
The fish warden got wind of a guy who was reported to be fishing with dynamite. The warden decided to go out on the boat with the guy to see if this was true. They went out on the water a ways, the guy reached under the seat, pulled out a stick of dynamite, lit it, and handed it to the warden. The warden was dumbfounded, just sat there,,,in amazement,,,, so the guy says to him "are you gonna just sit there? Or do some fishin?"
 
One lake here used to have a lot of crappies, could be caught with a jig and pole through the ice. Some abused it-a few would jig and catch fish and a couple guys with power augers would drill holes, they would follow the school around the lake and take fish by the bucket full.
 
What if he caught them from private ponds? I know in Indiana that the fish on private ponds is property of the owner. There are no size or quantity limits. Same could apply to raised birds compared to hunted birds. I raised quail and no limits on when or how many I put in freezer.
 
Thats not the law just because they're in a freezer means nothing,during hunting season guys that don't eat deer meat are always dropping them off here at my place.And how would they prove what year they were killed?
 
As was stated, laws vary sate to state for possession. Here for example most often the daily limit and possession limits for total fish, including what's in your freezer are the same.

As far as them being able to just walk in a check your freezer that has been settled in court and the 4th Amendment won. States that claim they can do that if a person fights it will find out the hard way. Think of it this way, a cop just can't search your car. They have to have probable cause, a warrant or permission of the driver. A "carp cop" is in fact an enforcement officer and falls under the same rules.

Rick
 
if i read this article correctly, this guy is a poacher, plain and simple. he has been arrested 7 times in the past for over the bag limit on fish. he is commercially harvesting and selling fish without a commercial license. i think he got what he deserved. years ag we used to ice fish on lake onanlaska, its a backwater of the mississippi river. typical blue gills are in the 9 to 10 inch size range, crappies were typically 14 to 16 inch. big pan fish come out of that lake. the game warden presence is high because of this.
 
(quoted from post at 15:42:42 01/30/17) So long as they had a search warrant the 4th doesn't apply. Sounds like they had probable cause.
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OH I'm sure they did and the 4th protects us from "Unreasonable Search". When a judge issues a warrant means it's a reasonable search. I was referring to those states that claim a game warden can look in your freezer anytime without probable cause or a warrant.

Rick
 
You need to know KY definition of "unprocessed" fish.. A frozen fish here is unprocessed. A "processed" fish is one that is canned, smoked, dried, salted, pickled, or otherwise prepared for long term storage or transport.
In most Canadian provinces processed fish are also part of possession limit to prohibit visiting anglers (American) from hauling large numbers back to the U.S.
 
Greg1959, my interpretation is this: what you posted is only the definition of "daily limit" and "possession limit" but somewhere else in the regulations would be stated the limit quantity based on various species.

Not trying to say who is right or wrong, just my interpretation.
 
GordoSD- I talked to a Game warden specifically about this question. His rely was...Let's say you are camping for the weekend and fishing. Your limit for those 2 days is double your 'creel'(daily) limit. We don't care how many you have at home filleted out in your freezer. Now, if you are spending a week out camping/fishing then every 2 days spend a little time filleting out your catch and put them in a cooler.

Here, they are not concerned about how many you have in your freezer/cooler.
 
In Minnesota, the possession limit includes what you have in the freezer, locker up town, neighbors freezer, whole works. Legally to give game away, you are supposed to have your license number on the package and it must be packaged so it can be identified. Like fish, patch of skin to indicate species. You know nobody is going to do that.

Several years ago, coming back from weekend of fishing trip I ran into a roadside check point. Had fish in the cooler in covered boat. Asked how many, I told them but had to remove boat cover, and dig them out of the cooler. When I was done, officer says, you are the first one today that had them done up properly.

Lot of laws have changed last few years like them not being able to come into your home without a warrant or consent but it was not like that a few years ago. This has good and bad side to it of course as the super game poacher in the area got away with a ton of law breaking because of improper warrant. I wish they would have locked him up for twenty years. Don't need his kind around.
 
What is keeping some glutton from catching a possession limit before noon, filleting them all out place in cooler, go back out get another PL and filet them and place in cooler, go back out catch another PL, put in cooler., you get the idea.
 
Was tht east of Chamberlain on I-90?
If you fish walleyes in the Mo river you are going to get checked somewhere.
Try carrying enough fresh filets for supper into Charlies in Chamberlain. They will cook them up, give you the sides you want, wine. None better anywhere, $5.
 
GordoSD- Nothing is going to stop someone from doing what you say. I kinda get the feeling that you are starting to nit-pick now. lol
 
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